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Is Chewbacca dead?

Discussion in 'Classic Trilogy' started by DarthGelatinous, Jul 2, 2003.

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  1. DarthGelatinous

    DarthGelatinous Jedi Master star 2

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    He lived a long time ago and in a galaxy far, far away. According to the EU, he died not quite as long ago in a galaxy far, far away. But then I saw him on the Muppet Show about 20 years.

    Who should I believe - GL, EU, or KTF?
     
  2. AdamBertocci

    AdamBertocci Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    The Muppet Show supersedes all other levels of canon.


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  3. ChewieRules

    ChewieRules Jedi Youngling

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    I HOPE he didn't die!! :( :_|
     
  4. ST-TPM-ASF-TNE

    ST-TPM-ASF-TNE Moderator Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Well, in Vector Prime he died.

    EU normally doesn't count as canon, but GL gave permission to R.A. Slavatore to have Chewbacca be killed off.

    RIP Chewbacca! :_|
     
  5. JBRO_13

    JBRO_13 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    How does he die? I MUST KNOW!
     
  6. Spiderdevil

    Spiderdevil Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Short version: A moon fell on him.
     
  7. DamonD

    DamonD Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    It was a hell of a way to go :)
     
  8. JBRO_13

    JBRO_13 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Comforting...it took a PLANET to kill Chewbacca. That's what I want to happen to me.

    That, or be devoured by a T-Rex.

    Either or.
     
  9. jedi_master_ousley

    jedi_master_ousley Force Ghost star 8

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    On the planet Sernpidal, a Yuuzhan Vong weapon was pulling Dobido, the moon down, readying it to crash into the planet. Han, Chewie, and Anakin Solo (Han and Leia's son) were there. Once they had found out about the moon, they were trying to save as many people as they could.

    From Vector Prime:


    By the time Han got the Falcon back to Sernpidal City, the docking area was gone, broken apart by the tremendous upheavals, with all its walls flattened. A few people ran about, screaming, a few others remained prostrated on the streets, praying to Tosi-karu.

    But most had been packed away, and dozens of shipts, everything from single-seaters, inevitably with two people crammed in, , to freighters, were in the air, preparing to fly away.

    Han spotted Chewie almost immediately, the Wookiee waving one long arm and holding a pair of children under the other. "Help him," he instructed his son, and Anakin rushed away, pushing through the mob that packed the Falcon, to the lowe landing ramp. Han brough the ship in low and slow, compensating for the raoring winds. "Hurry, hurry," he muttered to himself. Debris was flying everywhere, and only luck alone had kept Chewie and those kids from being washed away in it.

    He edged the Falcon down lower, to within a few meters of the ground, and moved over Chewbacca's position.

    "The kids are in," Anakin called over the intercom. "I'm getting Chewie in now."

    An explosion rocked the city, a few blocks to the side of the Falcon, and a small shuttle started to rise above the remnants of one wall, but quickly shut down and disappeared frmo view.

    Han banged a fist on his console. "You got him, kid?" he called to his son.

    "Chewie's going for the shuttle," Anakin called back. "I'm going, too. Meet us there." Even as Anakin finished, Han saw Chewie go running out from under the Falcon, drawing his bowcaster as he went.

    Anakin came close behind, gaining ground as Chewie slowed to blow a hole in the wall between them and the downed shuttle.

    "We've got to clear it," Anakin shouted as he came through that wall, to find the tail end of the shuttle buried under a pile of debris too thick about the lone ion drive for the ship to dare risk a takeoff.

    Chewie charged right in, bowcaster firing, cutting up the bigger chunks. He grabbed pieces with one strong arm and send them flying aside.

    "Hurry up!" came a cry from the open port on the shuttle's side, a woman standing inside. "I've got a packed ship. We'll all die."

    Anakin studied the pile and hte Wookiee's progress. He heard hte Falcon's engines humming as the ship hovered over the wall behind him, and for a moment, he thought of instructing his father to vaporize that rubble pile with the laser cannons, as Chewie was trying to do with his bowcaster.

    He shook the improbable plan away and utilized a different power source, an inner source, instead, reaching out mentally to the rubble, using the Force to lift it away, huge piece by huge piece. Another quake rocked the city, the falling moon making its appearance on the eastern horizon, seeming much larger than even on its last pass, and this time with a huge fire trail spewing out about it. IMmediately, the wind increased to deafening proportions.

    But Anakin held his calm and worked with the pile methodically.

    The Wookiee roared his approval and helped as much as he could with his conventional methods, and soon enough, Chewie fell back, hailing the woman inside with great and unrgent howls.

    "Take her out!" Anakin cried to the woman, translating the Wookie's words. "Take her out fast!" He and Chewie fell back as the shuttle blasted away.

    It rose only a dozen meters before being blown aside by a huge gust of wind that pummeled the area and sent Anakin and Chewie scrambling.

    The more powerful Millenium Falcon held its ground, though, and the lower landing ramp was down, with Han perched on it, extending his hand to his son and his partner. "Come on!" he cried. "It's ending fast!"

    Chewie fought powerfully ag
     
  10. Joey-WanKenobi

    Joey-WanKenobi Jedi Master star 2

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  11. SITHlover

    SITHlover Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Crushed by a moon huh...............

    Damn, I hate it when that happens!
     
  12. Esperanza_Nueva

    Esperanza_Nueva Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    crushed by a moon?! HA! that was no moon.. that was a space station
     
  13. jedi_master_ousley

    jedi_master_ousley Force Ghost star 8

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    No, it was definately a moon this time. :p
     
  14. Darth Dark Helmet

    Darth Dark Helmet Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    The Muppet Show supersedes all other levels of canon.

    :D
     
  15. Mr_Sith

    Mr_Sith Jedi Knight star 5

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    Ahhh, man! Chewie cant die, hes, hes, hes Chewie!

    Oh well, when I die im gonna go out like this:

    *dying* There is... ano..ther.... Sky...wal...ker

    :D
     
  16. Skywalker_1138

    Skywalker_1138 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I still hate the NJO's attempt at "realism"
    and one of the main reasons I really don't like the Yuuzahn Vong is they killed Chewie. I never read Vector Prime though I read the rest of the NJO. If they bring Anakin back I hope they bring back Chewie too
     
  17. Blast

    Blast Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Well Im glad that one of my favorite characters was taken out by a moon,not some blind guy ;)
     
  18. Sophita

    Sophita Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I have to concur the muppets are the ultimate authority on canon issues. :D If the muppets say he's alive, he's alive.

    And now, thanks to Vector Prime, I have just that much more reason to avoid any book R.A. Salvadore publishes. (Though the fact he's a horrible, horrible writer is also somewhat important. :p)
     
  19. jedi_master_ousley

    jedi_master_ousley Force Ghost star 8

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    Instead of not reading anything Salvatore writes, maybe you just shouldn't see Episode III. George Lucas was the one who chose Chewie to die, not Salvatore.

    Edit: Basically what happened, was the people in charge of the NJO wanted Luke to die, to show the vulnerability of the group of main characters, but Lucas forbid any EU author to kill Luke, Han, or Leia. So, one of the writers of the dark horse comics threw in the suggestion that Chewie should die, and George said it was fine, and so it was written.

    Just because Salvatore wrote the book, doesn't mean he was the one who chose Chewie. He was given a minor plotline, and he went with it.

    The reason they chose him to die was to really shake up the main characters. Han has a nice line about feeling their little group was invincible, that nothing could happen to them, and they realized, especially Han, just how big a thread the Yuuzhan Vong are.

    In any story, it's inevitible that someone has to die eventually. Yoda was one of my favorite characters, but you don't see my raging and screaming at George because he died, no matter what the cause.

    And you should be happy that it took something as powerful as a moon caught up in a gravitational oddity caused by the Vong to kill him. He could have written it any way he wanted, but instead of having some random enemy shoot him, or stab him, or anything like that, it took a whole moon to kill him, showing just how tough he was. And it also shows how humble he was, for he died trying to save innocent people.

    If you fail to realize that in stories, someone has to die, not everyone is invincible, and that only after a loss can their be a large gain, (example: the the peace and justice of the galaxy is lost at the hands of the Empire, and only after that loss did the Rebellion rise and defeat them, or another example more along the lines of death is in Lord of the Rings when (MAJOR LotR SPOILER) Gandalf dies, being the big loss, and comes back as a white wizard, being a big gain. Also, Frodo, who basically loses conciousness and even himself to the power of the ring, the big loss, then comes along Gollum and destroys the ring, though unintentionally, and there is a big gain. (END SPOILERS)

    So, in other words, I don't see much what you're complaining about, because it only happened to further the storyline. And while Chewie is cool onscreen, if you've read many EU books, you'll know that he is sort of annoying to read, and to longtime EU readers, it doesn't feel like as much of a loss as the actual storyline progresses.

    Before you go ranting about Salvatore being the one to write his death, or about the company choosing him to die, or even GL authorizing it, I'd suggest you actually read some EU material, then read that book and at least the next 2 or 4 (the next 4 are two book sets) to completely understand, and to get the full story, instead of only the fact that Chewie dies, and only the part of the book that I typed and posted.
     
  20. Dark_Rogue

    Dark_Rogue Jedi Youngling star 3

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    EU normally doesn't count as canon, but GL gave permission to R.A. Slavatore to have Chewbacca be killed off

    GL didn't give him permission. Bob was told he had to kill him off, he didn't want to. GL explained to him that they had too many books were the main characters made it thru unsctrached and this was the start of a new series and it was going to be different. Bob finnally decided to write it after his talk with GL.

     
  21. Daughter_of_Yubyub

    Daughter_of_Yubyub Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    It sill means GL approved it though.
     
  22. jedi_master_ousley

    jedi_master_ousley Force Ghost star 8

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    Exactly. The conversation did not go like this:

    GL: Hey, you wanna write a Star Wars book?

    RAS: Yes. As long as you let me kill Chewie

    GL: Ok.

    See, that's not what happened. Quit blaming the author. Without knowledge of the situation, you had (and probably still have) hate towards R.A. Salvatore, when the hate should be directed at George Lucas, for being one of the main people behind the idea, and you should hate one of the Dark Horse comics writers (who I might add has nothing to do with the NJO) who gave the suggestion for it to be Chewie.
     
  23. Dark_Rogue

    Dark_Rogue Jedi Youngling star 3

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    right but the way it was being worded made it seem like it was Bob's idea. He is a really nice guy and doesn't deserve all the crud he gets cause Chewie died in his book
     
  24. Spike2002

    Spike2002 Former FF-UK RSA and Arena Manager star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    EU normally doesn't count as canon, but GL gave permission to R.A. Slavatore to have Chewbacca be killed off

    *sigh* The EU DOES count as canon. Everything except something with an Infinities Label on it is canon.

    Jeez.
     
  25. AdamBertocci

    AdamBertocci Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    He does deserve crud for being a bad writer though... I thought Vector Prime was lacking and the AOTC novel was near-unreadable.

    Lucas forbid any EU author to kill Luke, Han, or Leia

    REALLY?

    I didn't know that. I mean, I always figured he'd say "no" if someone asked to do it, but I didn't know it was a standing rule.



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