Is everything in a Star Wars film consider canon?

I have read in many articles and comments that nothing is consider "Offical" unless it appears in a the films. Now all of the cameos from charater from differents movies that are in Star Wars must be consider canon.Right?

Now if E.T. appears in The Phantom Menace than E.T. can be consider a part of the Star Wars universe and a part of the canon.

So if E.T. is a part of the Star Wars universe the the planet Earth is consider a part of the Star Wars universe.

Now you say if E.T. is in Star Wars than Earth must be in Star Wars. This is a fun way of putting the planet Earth in the Star Wars universe. Fun but no big deal.

Now this is where it gets weird. E.T. visits the planet Earth. While there he watches as Elliot plays with Star Wars toys. E.T. also sees a kid dresses as Yoda. E.T. evens reconizes Yoda.

Now if E.T. is part of Star Wars and Earth is part of Star Wars than George Lucas and everybody on Earth is a part of Star Wars.

George Lucas exist in the Star Wars universe because his Star Wars movies and Star Wars toys exist in the same universe as E.T., the Star Wars universe!

The only way to make it all fit is to say that the Star Wars universes is real and that some aliens or people left the Star Wars galaxy and came to earth. They told George Lucas about the Star Wars galaxy and he decided to make a movie about it. During this time E.T. visits Earth and plays with Star Wars toys and says hello to a Yoda.

Now I know that Star Wars is not real and that they are movies, but if everything thing that appears in a Star Wars movie is consider canon than that means that Star Wars must be a real place in that canon.

To think that E.T. cameo was more of an Being John Malchovich type of thing.

Now here are some other films that must be in the Star Wars canon.

Indiana Jones. Because there is R2-D2 and C-3PO on the wall of the Well of Souls. That means that the droids have been here to. Also Club Obi-Wan in Temple of Doom. I guess somebody from the Star Wars galaxy came to Earth and named a club after a Jedi they knew.

Men in Black. K mentions a Correlian death ray.The baby alien squid grows up to be Kit Fisto?

Star Trek.The Enterprise flying on Corusant and the Falcon being in Star Trek First Contact.

Dose anybody else know of an apperance of a Star Wars character or object or any other film characters appearing in Star Wars.

Because if they're in a Star Wars film it must be in the canon. Right?

I hoped you understand what I'am saying.

 

Well the ET's could be some type of alien which happen to look exactly like the ET's from ET...

Same with everything else...

 

Any Star Wars product without an Infinities label is canon.

ET is not canon, because ET is not a Star Wars product. There just happen to be some aliens in the Senate that resemble the title character of an unrelated movie.

 

E.T. was in a Star Wars movie as a nod to Spielberg. It's nothing more than an easter egg.

 

I know that there are cameos meant in good fun.

I just saying that can it be like Superman and Batman exist in the same universe and Spider-man and Daredevil exist in the same universe.

This is more of an humorous thing that if you had to keep it canon, it would spiral out of control where you whould have Lucas and Indiana Jones wraped up in the Star Wars Universe.

This is meant just to be kind of silly. So if K and J know of a Corillian death ray they could possible visit the Star Wars galaxy.

I thought about this when the SW Insider tried to put the Muppets into the Star Wars canon?

 

The only way to make it all fit is to say that the Star Wars universes is real and that some aliens or people left the Star Wars galaxy and came to earth. They told George Lucas about the Star Wars galaxy and he decided to make a movie about it.

Actually I read somewhere that a Jedi holocron crashed down on earth and landed in Lucas' backyard in 1973 or something. i dont remember the details but I'm sure someone knows the complete story.

 

Heard that last thing as well.

However Indiana Jones, must have traveled to tattoine, as we see him (or someone resembling him) walking up the stairs at the podrace arena thingy.

Maybe that is the plot for Indy 4????





DD - Indy 4 Spliff

 

Sorta off-topic here:

I've heard about the Falcon being in First Contact, can anyone post a pic though?

Cheers

 

Here's how Lucas got Star Wars (*wink wink* ):

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The Skywalker Holocron and other records, fables, and legends of that time are combined into the massive First Saga of the advanced Holocron "The Journal of the Whills."

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An attempt by a spacecraft of the Star Wars galaxy to enter our own ends disastrously, and the ship is destroyed just inside our galaxy. A sea of debris flies out into space - including a copy of "The Journal of the Whills."

+10,188 ASW4 (1973 A.D.)


After floating in space for millennia, the copy of "The Journal of the Whills" crashes intact on Earth. It lands in Modesto California, in the backyard of young American filmmaker George Lucas. Wisely deciding to keep its existence secret, Lucas secretly begins researching and translating the Journal, dramatising parts of it into a feature film screenplay. (He is learning to translate as he goes, so it takes him four years and five drafts to get it right.) After United Artists and Universal balks at the project, 20th Century Fox agrees to produce Lucas's dramatised work. He creates Industrial Light and Magic to reproduce the holographic scenes shown in the Holocron.


Anyways, the "ET" species made a cameo just for the heck of it- sort of a tribute to Spielberg by Lucas.

As far as the "Indiana Jones" thing goes, Lucas just mixed a bit of Star Wars in it just because he could.

 

I had never heard of the Jedi Holocron storie before. That's really cool!

About Indy being at the pod race. Is it really Dr. Jones or a clone?The cloners may be related to the aliens from Close Encounters of the Third Kind. They could have came to earth during the thirty's and got some of Indy's DNA.

 

Nope, if they came to Earth to retrieve some of Indy's DNA, they would have had to come to the future ( the 1930's ) and then gone back in time, ( to a long, long time ago ) and then created the Indy clone there.

 

Indiana Jones is NOT at the Pod Race, that has been confirmed on the TPM DVD. As for ET, that is the species that is canon, not the story of the one ET that went to Earth. Don't read into this stuff too much; you end up worried about things too trivial.

The Enterpriser is not on Coruscant either, again confirmed on the DVD.
Kit Fisto is not the baby alien, the only similarites are head tentacles.
References like "Club Obi-Wan", just names that could be of that region, or just put in so it looked cool. When the droids were in the well of souls, it is a background detail no one would notice, just for fun.
You are speaking like everything in Star Wars and movies are real life, or must be analyzed like a real/fabricated world. Take cameos for what they are, cameos. This is like saying Spaceballs is a Star Wars movie because Barf refers to the Force (wait, someone made a topic on that)

 

I once read a review of the Psycho remake where the reviewer remarked that the behaviour of the people in this film doesn't make sense as they surely must have seen Hitchcock's original film. The same goes for the American Godzilla film - how come those people have never seen the old Godzilla films? Or how come the villains in the newer Bond films (that take place in the present) have never heard of James Bond the movie character?
It's an interesting philosophical discussion.

 

Anything in the movies is the only true canon.

Canon according to anyone else's standards depends on their own individual tastes. There is no one canon that applies to everyone. It's one of the great things about Star Wars. Beyond the movies, it can include anything you want it to include.

 

???? Confused am I.

 

Gobi-1, I know what you meant mate!

As many people haven't realised, this is a hypothetical what-if... just like "Star Wars can't exist in Eastenders because Mel's Dad is the "Should we have your stuttle standing by to evacuate?" bloke. Plus the Milkman in Albert Square is the Stormie that banged his head!!

So yes mate, the SW/ET thing is a rift in the Space/Time continuum. A paradox that can't theoretically be solved. Just like Back to the Future and the Terminator.

Keep it easy folks,
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The James Bond movies ALL take place in the same universe. There are no 'Bond movies' in any Bond movies if you get my meaning. Because they talk about his marriage in the later movies. And as for Psycho, why would the orignal have to exist in the world of the re-hash? Sorry, remake.

 

Ah, the holocron story is good, but I can link ET to the same event!



c. +1,000 ASW4


The Skywalker Holocron and other records, fables, and legends of that time are combined into the massive First Saga of the advanced Holocron "The Journal of the Whills."

c. +5,000 ASW4

An attempt by a spacecraft of the Star Wars galaxy to enter our own ends disastrously, and the ship is destroyed just inside our galaxy. A sea of debris flies out into space - including a copy of "The Journal of the Whills."

+10,188 ASW4 (1973 A.D.)


After floating in space for millennia, the copy of "The Journal of the Whills" crashes intact on Earth. 2 men find the holocron and watch it in awe. Their names were George and Stephen and they both were inspired by it. One day, 2 1/2 years later, a spaceship landed in George and Stephen's yard and small "E.T.'s" emerged and asked for the holocron, which the men gave freely. When the ship took off, one of the aliens was left behind, so George and Stephen took care of it until it was able to report back to the ship and be rescued.

Afterwards they both were inspired to write scripts. George took the notes he took from the holocron and made a story about the Old Republic, and Stephen decided to do a script about the alien who got left behind, and the rest is history.

 

I think you are reading between the lines a bit too much.

 

Using the logic in the opening post, you would have to consider Ben Burtt's life "Star Wars canon" because he did a cameo in The Phantom Menace.

 

I'm too lazy too look at the rest of the posts but I believe what is canon is

The movies first (except E.T. in the senate chamber, someone lost a bet or something)
Then the books (I mean the novelizations of the movies)
The the radio dramas

anything that conflicts with a source above it is void.

 

Actually, these are the only tiers of canon:

Movies (True Canon)
Non-movies (Canon)
Infinities (Not canon)

Anything else is just pure fan invention.

 

This is like saying that the life of Ben Burtt and Rick McCallum are STAR WARS canon since both men had a cameo in THE PHANTOM MENACE. I'm certain you recognize the absurdity of such a a notion.

 

R2-D2 is in The Goonies on the ship at the end. So Sloth is Star Wars canon!!!

What an weird thread.

ET is canon is Star Wars as much as we all are.

Madine out