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Is IG88 taking over the Death Star 2 considered Canon?

Discussion in 'Literature' started by StarWarsFan91, Jan 15, 2011.

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  1. StarWarsFan91

    StarWarsFan91 Force Ghost star 4

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    The idea that IG88A took over the Death Star 2, and it wasn't the imperials in control but him in the battle of endor destroys many points in ROTJ.

    I mean by IG88 having control, it destroys the Emperor's plans and screws up with how you view the battle.

    I mean.....droid revolution....REALLY?

    Im a man who views c-canon as canon as long as it doesn't contradict the films.

    And i feel this story did contradict the films.

    This is quite different then the Boba Fett issue. A line in ROTJ mentioned that you can survive for a 1000 years while the sarlaac slowly digests you. So this implied that Boba Fett did not die directly when he fell into it, and the sarlaac kept him alive, that gives him the option to escape, especially since he was the only one who fell into it who had a jetpack and the firepower to escape from it.

    But to me, the IG88 invades G-Canon, trampling on it.

    What do you think?

    Is this horrible IG88 story considered canon for you?
     
  2. Malachi108

    Malachi108 Jedi Master star 3

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    Of course it is canon. And if you think that's silly, you probably haven't read Glove of Darth Vader, haven't you?
     
  3. StarWarsFan91

    StarWarsFan91 Force Ghost star 4

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    Yes....unfortunately.

    That could be taken out of Canon....i mean the supposed marriage between han and leia contradicted the "Courtship of Princess Leia". And i don't think many of the characters introduced in those books like Ken are really mentioned in other c-canon.

    C-Canon is a double edged sword for us continuity lovers. We get great works like TTT and horrible works like shown above.
     
  4. Rew

    Rew Chosen One star 5

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    [image=http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i320/therewster1996/904024-mount_sorrow_large.jpg]

    Mount Sorrow weeps at your lack of faith in SW canonical continuity. :p
     
  5. StarWarsFan91

    StarWarsFan91 Force Ghost star 4

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    But i do have a lot of faith in continuity, but that doesn't mean i am ignorant of bad canon or horrible canon killing.

    I know what i see.
     
  6. instantdeath

    instantdeath Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    While I don't know about this issue, I can say that I've read the Jedi Prince series (ugh...), and it doesn't really contradict anything. They are getting married, but supposedly are attacked during the wedding. You can say that being attacked by Imperials in the middle of their wedding inspired them both to concentrate more on the war than their personal lives.

    I loved that series, best "so bad it's good" thing ever, except for some particularly bad B-movies. m
     
  7. GenAntilles

    GenAntilles Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I never understood why so many people didn't like IG88 taking over the Death Star. It would be truly ironic that Palpatine would be undone by the one thing he could never forsee with the Force, machines.
     
  8. KnightDawg

    KnightDawg Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Exactly. It is brilliant from that point of view.
     
  9. Darth_Duck

    Darth_Duck Chosen One star 5

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    "Bad" and "horrible" are subjective things.
     
  10. Mechalich

    Mechalich Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    If you really want to hold to continuity it's perfectly reasonable to assume that Palpatine would have eventually detected IG88As presence some time after Endor and sent Force lightning through the CPU and annihilated him or something, so that IG88's rebelling against Palpatine would never have accomplished anything anyway.
     
  11. Matthew Trias

    Matthew Trias Force Ghost star 6

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    Well, when it comes to what fiction we like or dislike anyway...

    Personally, I like the story. It was my one of my favorites in the Tales of the Bounty Hunters, and even though I do agree it contradicts the intent of RotJ, the rest of the story was entertaining enough for me to overlook it.

    Besides, just because IG 88 was confident he would have remained in control of the DS II doesn't mean he actually would have. ;)
     
  12. KnightDawg

    KnightDawg Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Very good point.
     
  13. Quinnocent-Till-Sith

    Quinnocent-Till-Sith Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I have this wonderful image of Vader stumbling across Palpatine's corpse hanging limply between a door and its frame. ;)
     
  14. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 7 VIP

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    It's always bothered me as well, but canon is canon. I'm in the camp that assumes he would've been discovered and expunged almost immediately if they'd had the opportunity.
     
  15. GenAntilles

    GenAntilles Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Palpatine: Now witness the firepower of this armed and fully operational battle station. You may fire at will commander.
    IG-88: I'm sorry Emperor, I'm afraid I can't do that.
    Palpatine: :eek:

    Now that would have been a scene to see.
     
  16. timmoishere

    timmoishere Force Ghost star 6

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    The quality or believability of a work doesn't affect its canon status. Whether you like IG-88 taking over the Death Star or not, it's still canon. The only thing that affects a work's canon status is LFL's discretion.
     
  17. fistofan1

    fistofan1 Jedi Master star 4

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    If I could make one part of the EU non-canon, it would be this. If IG-88 taking over the Death Star wasn't bad enough, he had to mess with Palpatine in the most unbelievably moronic scenes in the entire Star Wars saga. I'm a huge continuity nut, but I would gladly accept the deletion of this story from canon.

    Mount Sorrow wearing the Glove of Darth Vader having a tea party with Waru with Jar Jar Binks as their waiter would be more believable to me than Kevin J. Anderson's insane idea. :p
     
  18. Dawud786

    Dawud786 Chosen One star 5

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    You know... IG88 turned 27 on the day of the Battle of Endor...
     
  19. CurlyWookie

    CurlyWookie Jedi Youngling star 2

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    I was against the whole idea like the OP, but you guys have sold it to me. What I want now is a new infinities where Palpatine sends his new apprentis Luke to find out why the DS is now firing on the Imperial ships after defeating the Rebel fleet.
     
  20. Zorrixor

    Zorrixor Chosen One star 6

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    Can't say I've ever really cared much about the IG-88 thing as in the end it depends what one means by "took over". I can take over a lot of things, but whether it really gives me full control or not is another matter. Closed circuits, manual overrides, blah, blah, blah. Lots of ways that could mean "control" of the Death Star merely meant that the toilets were in reflux and shooting back up at people when they sat down.

    Maybe that's why Palpatine was so cranky that day -- the Emperor's "Throne" was out of order so he was having to hold it in.
     
  21. Zorrixor

    Zorrixor Chosen One star 6

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    Can't say I've ever really cared much about the IG-88 thing as in the end it depends what one means by "took over". I can take over a lot of things, but whether it really gives me full control or not is another matter. Closed circuits, manual overrides, blah, blah, blah. Lots of ways that could mean "control" of the Death Star merely meant that the toilets were in reflux and shooting back up at people when they sat down.

    Maybe that's why Palpatine was so cranky that day -- the Emperor's "Throne" was out of order so he was having to hold it in.
     
  22. KnightDawg

    KnightDawg Jedi Padawan star 4

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    [face_talk_hand] Pfffft. No more moronic than R2-D2 constantly being able to slice into everything (even sliced the Death Star I and that was 100% complete). Why does R2 get a free pass? If R2 can do it then IG-88 (among with thousands of other droids) should be able to do the same. Plus, if IG-88 did not have some sort of force-presence like I-Five did, then Darth Sidious would not have known until it was too late. Let's be consistent when it comes to canon-bashing.

     
  23. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 7 VIP

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    One thing I have to add regarding the droid Force presence topic - boulders don't have a Force presence, but if one were rolling down a hill toward a Jedi, his danger sense would still alert him to it. Just because Palpatine couldn't have sensed a discrete entity within the DS systems doesn't mean he wouldn't have felt that something was up.
     
  24. KnightDawg

    KnightDawg Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Darth Sidious also didn't feel Luke Skywalker on Endor, so something was up with Palpy. The Force itself was drastically shifting during this period, so IG-88 obviously got away with it. Furthermore, I don't believe Sidious felt the danger of the Millenium Falcon inside the Death Star II and what it was about to do.
     
  25. blackmyron

    blackmyron Chosen One star 7

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    I treat it like the other 'goofy' Star Wars stories - something happened along the basic lines of the story, but particular events (like the Three Stooges torment of Palpatine by IG88) I just ignore.
     
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