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Is the Approaching Storm Canon?

Discussion in 'Literature' started by NidLoc, Sep 27, 2004.

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  1. NidLoc

    NidLoc Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I was thinking the mission to Anison is mentioned in AOTC by Mace so does this make the story officially part of the cannon.Mods if this thread is redundant please lock, I looked in the index and only found an old locked thread.
     
  2. Tam_Elgrin

    Tam_Elgrin Jedi Master star 4

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    Canon refers to an authoritative list of books that the Lucas Licensing editors consider an authentic part of the official Star Wars history. Our goal is to present a continuous and unified history of the Star Wars galaxy, insofar as that history does not conflict with, or undermine the meaning of Mr. Lucas's Star Wars saga of films and screenplays. Things that Lucas Licensing does not consider official parts of the continuous Star Wars history show an Infinities logo or are contained in Star Wars Tales. Everything else is considered canon.


    So yes, TAS is canon - as is every other Star Wars novel.

    I think you meant, however, does it enjoy a higher "level" of canon than other novels - no. In fact, it's not actually the novel that's being referenced by Mace - Alan Dean Foster simply took that line and ran with it.
     
  3. NidLoc

    NidLoc Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Thanks for the clarification.
     
  4. clonewarseu

    clonewarseu Jedi Youngling star 3

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    According to the levels of canon there is G-canon (anything written by George Lucas) and C-canon (anything written by another author that is not considered "infinities"). G-canon and C-canon are both part of the same world. They both exist. What's important is that if there is a discrepency between the two, G-canon always trumps C-canon.

    As for The Approaching storm, the fact that there was a mission to Ansion is G-canon since it was in the movie, but the details as laid out in TAS are C-canon since they were not written by GL.
     
  5. GrandAdmiralJello

    GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    E.g. the United States. The federal government is G canon, whilst state and local governments are C canon.

    C canon gets a lot of freedom, as long as it's within the guidelines of G canon. But anytime they conflict, G canon always wins--regardless.

    But both are canon, just as local, state, and federal laws are all laws.
     
  6. Jedi-Sith

    Jedi-Sith Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    Good analogy GrandAdmiralJello
     
  7. JediTrilobite

    JediTrilobite Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    Basically, anything without an Infinities Logo, and with certain cases, it's canon.
     
  8. wild_karrde

    wild_karrde Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    Everything is canon.

    Nothing is canon.

    Cannon go BOOM!
     
  9. Excellence

    Excellence Jedi Knight star 7

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    Let's have a full list of canon categories. We've seen C and G canon. What about A, B and other canons?
     
  10. HL&S

    HL&S Magistrate Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    In the summer of 2000 Lucas filmed a scene for EP2 that mentioned Obi-Wan coming back from a border dispute on Ansion. That's when the idea for a book based on that possible adventure came about. In early 2002 The Approaching Storm came out. Yes it came out before AOTC did, but it was based off of a line of dialogue from AOTC's filming.

    It's like Han Solo mentioning his encounter on Ord Mantell with a bounty hunter influencing his decision on paying back Jabba the Hutt in TESB. I'm sure there was a short story somewhere about that eventually.

     
  11. Leto II

    Leto II Jedi Padawan star 6

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    More than one, actually... [face_laugh]
     
  12. Apprentice_Anakin

    Apprentice_Anakin Jedi Master star 4

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    I think Dark Empipre 1 and 2 should be labeled as "Infinities". It is pure rubbish.
     
  13. masterskywalker

    masterskywalker Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    ^ I think your opinion of Dark Empire is rubbish. :)

    There's that damned democracy for you. ;)
     
  14. DarthRotten

    DarthRotten Jedi Padawan star 4

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    What is up with the Dark Empire backlash? I think it is the only story set after ROTJ that has the epic scope to come anywhere near the scope of the movies. The problems that people have with DE have popped up elsewhere too. Luke goes over to the Darkside and returns (but guess what? So have a dozen other Jedi since then. Guess Yoda was wrong on that one...) Palpatine returns as a clone but so has Isard, and Thrawn attempted to do the same (and possibly already has.) Boba Fett escaped the Sarlaac (everybody wanted him back...Vietch actually had the cojones to ask GL if he could make it happen.) Dark Empire had TWO superweapons (but so did the original trilogy... guess it is crap too, huh?) The point is that DE isn't the problem... The problem is everybody else copying it and subsequent authors not having the aforementioned cojones to work with the developments it introduced. (Examples: Luke seems his happy-go-lucky self again in JAT, Leia isn't really a Jedi anymore, the Hutts no longer wanted the Big 3 dead, etc.) Dark Empire is one of the best SW EU stories set after ROTJ and it is as canon as any other novel or comic. Get over it, people.
     
  15. Esplin9466

    Esplin9466 Jedi Master star 4

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    Palpatine returns as a clone but so has Isard, and Thrawn attempted to do the same (and possibly already has.)

    Though I agree with most of your points, I must contest that one. The Isard and Thrawn clones were just clones, meaning they shared the same DNA but nothing more, much like Boba is a clone of Jango but they aren't the same person. Palpatine's clones, however, were the same person who died on the Death Star in RotJ, due to Palpatine's spirit possessing them. Your point is well taken, but flawed on that level.
     
  16. Ton_G

    Ton_G Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    A better example of an EU clone would be Bevel Lemelisk. All of them.
     
  17. Katana_Geldar

    Katana_Geldar Jedi Grand Master star 8

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    A better example of an EU clone would be Bevel Lemelisk. All of them.

    and there's the whole stormies are clones arguement
     
  18. ausar_vos

    ausar_vos Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I haven't this novel yet, but I have a hard time with Palpatine coming back as well. Although I'm growing to see cloning as a genuine element of the Star Wars galaxy through the clone army and Jango/Boba.

    Also, the "Palpatine's clones, however, were the same person who died on the Death Star in RotJ, due to Palpatine's spirit possessing them. Your point is well taken, but flawed on that level." arguement I just read is putting it in a better context. I guess if Palpatine was so inclined to create a clone army specificly, it denotes the character's fascination with cloning itself. In a way, Lucas' Pt helped to validate this particular aspect of the EU.

    BTW, didn't you find TAS sucked!
     
  19. DarthRotten

    DarthRotten Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I see your point about Palpatine's clone being more than a mere clone (although Timothy Zahn through his mouthpiece Mara Jade puts forth the theory that it wasn't really Palpatine; in that case it is really no different than Joruus C'Baoth).
    And I thought TAS sucked too. It was too sci-fi for me. By that I mean that ADF spent too much time explaining the culture of the locals and not enough creating tension.
     
  20. Esplin9466

    Esplin9466 Jedi Master star 4

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    although Timothy Zahn through his mouthpiece Mara Jade puts forth the theory that it wasn't really Palpatine; in that case it is really no different than Joruus C'Baoth

    If Mara was right, yes, but she's an idiot. :p

    Appeasement: Er, "idiot" meaning that she was wrong in this particular case. Yes. ;)
     
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