Is the Yoda puppet really that bad?

Even George Lucas conceded that people complained the puppet didn't look real. That it looked better but not real.

I didn't think that it was so bad.

What exactly is so bad about it? What is the general consensus on this?

Is Yoda's facial change from TPM to AOTC (to ROTS to the OT) believable to you?

 

His face looks a little bigger in Attack Of The Clones - the puppet's face is a little "compressed" in comparison.

No, it isn't believable to me.

 

I don't think it looks bad at all.

You can still tell he's a puppet, but that's inevitable. At least he's not a distracting or poorly-made puppet.



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i love yoda but this version is - well, distracting. he's cross-eyed and pug nosed in a nostril-revealing way. ATOC contains my favorite yoda - truly deeply cool

 

The problem wasn't with the puppet IMO.

It's that he looks so much diffrent that he does in ESB, and now AotC. If you're 900 years old, then thirty shouldn't alter your apperance so drastically.

 

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Yeah, but the TPM Yoda has sideburns. I mean do you think that the reappearance of the Sith caused him to shave them off before AotC?

 

I definitely think the change in his appearance was a bit odd, but it's still believeable to me, moreso than CGI Yoda at least.

 

I like TPM Yoda. You can tell the difference from TPM to AOTC. This one he seems too frail at such a young age. Any type of Yoda is good IMO. old puppet, new puppet, CG. As long as it looks like him and Frank Oz still is voicing him, I have no problems.

 

I think TPM Yoda looks a little too young, but I don't mind it.

 

It's not awful, but of all the variations of Yoda, TPM is my least favorite. There's just something too "shiny" rubbery about him - even less realistic than in the OT. That doesn't mean it distrated me from enjoying the movie, though I won't mind if Lucas goes through with his intent to replace TPM Yoda with CGI Yoda.

 

Personally, it wouldn't have bothered me if the entire Star Wars Saga was presented in a cardboard box with stick or sock puppets in front of a Wal-Mart. It's the story that intrigued me above anything else.

 

As others have said above, the real issue with the TPM Yoda was the fact that he did not look like the OT Yoda. Personally, I feel that if they would have had the technology to make the TPM puppet back for ESB, it would have made for a slightly better performance for that character back in '80.





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I thought the Yoda puppet was fine. I still do.

I thought GL once said that he wasn't happy with TPM Yoda and wanted the AOTC Yoda to more closely resemble the OT puppet.

 

I am a fan of the TPM Yoda. Also, I have tied him to my memories of Summer 1999 as he was a iconic image used a lot back then.

 

I didn't think the puppet looked that bad - he just looks a bit different to how he looks in all the other movies. The TPM Yoda always reminded me a bit of Rich Hall:

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yes its really that bad

 

Hmm... He looks like Uncle Scrooge.

 

I like the TPM puppet. Forget logics, I like the fact that we get to see him a bit younger. More hair, greener, less sleepy. It's wonderful!
Besides, we don't know what he's been going through between TPM and AOTC. Ten years can do a lot to a person. I think GL said it best: "Anakin looks considerably different, why can't Yoda?"

BTW: A few years back, I watched TESB after having viewed TPM several times and I found myself thinking that the OT Yoda didn't look as real as the TPM puppet. I think it was the way his skin looks, sort of dry. I figured, though, that the dryness of his skin must be due to his age. He was getting old and weak and would die in about a year.

 

Something I just realized, what we're saying about TPM Yoda (how he doesn't look like the one from ESB), are what people are gonna be saying about Yoda when they watch ESB (how he doesn't look like the one from the prequels) if they watch the saga in order.

 

can 'o worms opening here - after phantom but much, much more so with aotc yoda - i think the OT's yoda looks exactly what it is: a puppet with poor synch of words to mouth. we just wanted to believe and that made it work. now there's just too much out there for joe blow fan/public who have access to creating their own ccg and therefore have much more extensive ammo with which to condemn and criticize. we are such a jaded, cynical lot.

 

Yoda ages too much between TPM and the OT. Like someone said, so much change happened in 30 years for a 900 year old alien. That's not very consistent.

 

I said: Forget logics. This is Star Wars!
Besides, you don't know anything about Yoda's species. Not even it's name!

 

yes its really that bad. one moment yodal looks like this another moment hes a whole different... ummm... 'thing' (or whatever his species is).

I couldnt believe how different Yoda was between TPM and AOTC. In TPM is more like Roda not Yoda... a whole different person

 

i do admit he looks considerably different than he does in any of the other movies. Still, it doesn't bother me too much.

 

Jedi Apprentice--I agree. Yoda ages wayy too fast. But like others have said: we know nothing of his species. Could the devastation of the Jedi Order add years to Yoda's appearance between the PT and OT?
Maybe the last 100 years are when Yoda's species really run down ...