Jabba the Hutt was lesbian and Ziro is gay

Jabba the Hutt was either lesbian or the first male Hutt to have offspring. Really!

in TPM he and rival Gardulla flirted while fighting each other, but better proof would be his keeping FEMALE Slave Girs.

Well as per TCW we know he has a Son, Rotta, who is how old? Looks like more than 10 years for a Hutt, thus... in TPM Jabba was either lesbian (female Slave girls and female Hutt flirt?) or he was male and had offspring without a sexchange. Or he had offspring without reproducing alone but with someone else? Cloning?

^^

 

Hutts are modeled after slugs, who can reproduce asexually (without another partner).

Ziro, however, is fruity as hell.

 

Hutts are female some of the time and males other.

 

^ What they said. And you call yourself a SW fan?

 

Of course I know that... like my first post says. You didn´t get my point. My point was, that a Hutt is female until the Huttlet is old enough to be out of larvae stadium. With Rotta being just out of that possibly or not yet maybe, Jabba needs to have been female in TPM and thus had female slave girls, which would make him lesbian.

they are female or male and can change, but not at the same time.

 

Welcome to 12 months ago.

 

No, no no.

Since he has the parts for it, Jabba would just conceive and then birth the huttlet without any change in outward appearance. Slugs and snails do this all the time.

Think of it as a guy giving birth, and just leave it at that.

 

I just assumed that Jabba was briefly female in order to conceive and birth Rotta (we know from Boba Fett; When The Fat Lady Swings that the gestation period isn't long), but became male once again to keep up appearances (not to sound sexist, but I think it's reasonable to assume that a lot of the underworld creeps his keeps in his employ would respect him less if he were suddenly female; again I don't mean that in a sexist way, I'm just saying that a lot of these people in Jabba's employ are thugs and probably have little respect for a woman) This idea of a sexist entourage takes into account Hutts who were less involved with the criminal element, like Jiliac, or who were political, like Borga, who chose to remain female to nurture their young; no need to keep up appearances. Also, Jabba probably values the camaraderie that came with degrading and gawking at his various slave girls, and would lose that as a female.

As for Rotta's age, I just noticed that he was born in 32 BBY (I assumed it was younger than that), but perhaps he was conceived shortly after the events of Episode I (or after Outlander). As above, the gestation period of a Hutt is short, and perhaps Jabba simply didn't want to keep Rotta in his pouch for the next half-century, and so became male almost immediately after birthing him (perhaps to teach him the harshness of life?) This is consistent with The Hutt Gambit and Rebel Dawn.

All of these ideas are not terribly consistent with TCW, but do agree with The Hutt Gambit and Rebel Dawn, where Jabba didn't like all the attention that female-Jiliac was giving to her offspring, nurturing it in her pouch for several years, ignoring her duties as crime lord. If Jabba had remained female to nurture Rotta as his aunt later did, Jabba wouldn't have felt so antagonized by Jiliac and her Huttlet.

So yeah. That's my take on it.

 

So, they do they both qualify for affirmative action, minority victim-hood and the GFFA version of the grievance-industry?

 

Note how Ceiran is calling Jabba a lesbian and using the pronoun "him" at the same time.

 

That is now possible, well, in the state of Western Australia that is:

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/as_male_as_they_say/

Transexuals without a sex-change operation can now be deemed the opposite sex (female now deemed a male, even though biologically still a female)

What a wonderful topsy turvey Alice in Wonderland world we now live in.

 

Geez people act like this is something new. Jiliac (Jabba's Aunt), switches sexes so she can have a baby in The Hutt Gambit and that was in 1997. I remember specialify Jabba being disgusted with the baby cause it ruined his aunt's clever scheming and even kills it after his aunt/uncle dies in Rebel Dawn. That's what mystified me about The Clone Wars Novel, Why would Jabba have a kid and then find them to be a waste of time?
Unless the writers of the movie/book ignored/never bothered to read the EU...

 

Jabba has nineteen(ish) years to change his mind.

 

Jabba should've never had a baby? That's was the 1st PANTS-up of CWAS right, then they brought in Anakin's fake padawan in as the second PANTS-up? Woooow, CWAS was a mess right from the start...

 

Hutts are not human; the high-caste ones, at least, have a "reproductive phase" rather than two genders. Even if some say they "become female", Jabba gets to decide his own pronouns.

In fact, I suspect that you can argue that high-caste Hutts are male by default (as the apparent existence of gender among H'uuns indicates that the high-caste Hutts normally conform to the male gender of the wider species, both biologically and in behaviour patterns), reproductive phase notwithstanding.

Jabba is basically a man who can temporarily develop female sexual characteristics. Man-breasts do not a transvestite make.

- The Imperial Ewok

 

If you read the new Han Solo trilogy you will learn that Hutts can change their sex. And Jabba isn't really sexually aroused by slave girls either he just sees them as things most other male humanoid beings desire so they're of value as display pieces showing off his wealth. You also learn that Jabba the Hutt also loathes children, which doesn't exactly tie in well with CWAS where he actually has a son.

 

Actually, slugs are hermaphrodites. Anyone who wants to know more can Google.

He's the anti-Goran. Which, oddly enough, I just remarked about on TV Tropes. I've been doing a lot of EU-related troping recently.

 

Odd. I always had the impression that Jabba was aroused by humanoid females, which was considered a perversion among other Hutts. Didn't they make a reference to it in the Han Solo Trilogy?

 

I think it's both ways. The "I only display slave girls for the effect they have on the people I deal with" excuse is like "I only read Playboy for the articles."

TC

 

Jabba was appealed by the look of attractive humanoid females but they're more akin to living pieces of valuable artwork he could adorn his palace with. Ok so he liked to give them the odd lick of his tongue but that was probably because he enjoyed their reaction to it.

 

Yeah, I'm sure Jabba didn't find his slave girls attractive in any way.

 

Hermaphodites. I got my termed mixed up again.

 

I disagree about his thugs not respecting him if he was female. Gardulla the hutt was a female hutt on tatooine, and jabba's other rival crime lord was a female whiphid named lady valarian, who had thugs working for her. Besides, there are plenty of female "scummy" thug type characters in SW, whether they are theives, bounty hunters, or smugglers, etc.
Even his gammorrean guards wouldnt care, on their homeworld the women run the show and tell them who to go to war with.

 

Jabba could disdain children most of the time but still want a son of his own because of the different way he would feel about the child. His own son would be his to mould how he wished and would also be a calculated move to secure the future of his business so it may be a different prospect entirely.

 

He may have wanted to give her a tongue licking, to him that may have just been like stroking a furry pet.

Depraved in the sense that he may want to torture, humilate and feed them to his rancor. It doesn't mean he wanted to have sex with them even if that was physically possible.

Smitten can mean "affected by something overwhelming; "conscience-smitten"; "awe-struck" it doesn't to be anything to with sexual desire.

Well that's ok then, as long as we agree.