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Jedi mental bond question

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  1. Jedi_Knight150

    Jedi_Knight150 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    How far can a bond (training, life, ect.) stretch? Could the two people still feel things if they are on seprate (but nearby) planets? Or do they have to be in the same general area?
     
  2. Lt_Jaina_Solo

    Lt_Jaina_Solo Jedi Knight star 5

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    I've heard different versions of this. I've heard that Jedi bounds can extend over the entire galaxy, and the only difference it's harder to communicate through the Jedi bond the farther they go, or they can't communicate at all. It depends on how deep/close the bond is. Between people like Jaina and Jacen Solo or their mom, Leia, I would think that it wouldn't make that much of a difference how far away they are from each other, unless one is actively shielding...hope that helps...If I think of anything else, I'll let you know...
     
  3. LunarBlade

    LunarBlade Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I guess it's all up to you. It depends on the depth of the bond and how close (spiritually) the two people are. Remember that Luke managed to call Leia when he was hanging upside down? They didn't really have a training bond or anything; it was just sheer will. I guess that if, for example, Obi-Wan was to be sent to a different planet than Qui-Gon, they wouldn't be able to 'talk' through the bond, but if one of the was to be hurt or something, the other would know that there is something wrong. Or if one of them was in a very dire situation, he would be able to send a word or two through the bond.

    I think such things, though are rare at best, and should be considered things of importance and of some capability/affinity to the Force.

    Hope I helped at all!
     
  4. Lonewolf89

    Lonewolf89 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I'm of the opinion that Jedi bonds can stretch over the entire galaxy. As long as there is no Force obstruction, like from a ysalamiri, of course.
     
  5. HaiGan

    HaiGan Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Anakin could sense that his mother was in trouble when he was on Coruscant (central Core) and she was still back out on Tatooine (Outer Rim). Luke sensed Han and Leia were in danger when he was on Dagobah and they were on Bespin. Mind you, if you believe Yoda then that sense has more to do with precognition than telepathy, and both Anakin and Luke are powerful by Jedi standards, but it's canon evidence that a Jedi with a close connection to another individual can have some sort of bond with them over interplanetary distances.
     
  6. emimar

    emimar Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Depends on the connection they have with the person and how powerful they are in the Force, I guess.
     
  7. Mistress_Renata

    Mistress_Renata Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    As a writer, I'd simply say be careful how you use it. It can be a bit of a cliche, with an all-too-convenient excuse for getting everyone out of difficulties. But I'd have to say that the strength of the bond probably does depend on the individuals and their relationship to one another. I'd think that ties of blood would be pretty strong, and people who'd known each other for a long time would be better off than people who'd only met recently.

    But everyone is right; canon would suggest that in some cases (particularly blood ties) the connection to another can be felt over great distances, though maybe not actual conversations taking place...
     
  8. jjeess-ttyy

    jjeess-ttyy Jedi Youngling star 1

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    i agree. it depends on how deep the bond is between the two people. like in my fanfic, the two main characters (legolas and jesse) have been through a lot (the quest and everything). though legolas isn't a jedi, he and jesse (jedi)have a bond that goes deeper than a padawan/master bond. it's probably as deep as leia and her children's.
     
  9. PadawanRoo

    PadawanRoo Jedi Master star 1

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    echoing the above, it just sort of all depends.

    I would caution against trying to carry out conversations over a bond like this, no matter how close the characters are-- I've seen it done once or twice in the EU and far more frequently in fanfiction. There really isn't any evidence in the films that the bonds work this way.
    Like M_R already mentioned, it gets a bit deus ex after a while. As long as you keep it to transmitting a feeling, a sense of danger, a location, maybe even an image or a few words (like 'help' or 'Xanatos here'), you should be fine.
     
  10. AlrikFassbauer

    AlrikFassbauer Jedi Padawan star 4

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    In the comic where Aayla Secura finally becomes a Jedi Knight, she and her master Quinlan Vos had been (a time before that) stripped off their memories. Aayla Secura was able to restore some bits of her memory (as seen in the comic "The Stark Hyperspace War"), but whether Quinlas Vos could as well, isn't mentioned there.

    But still - Quinlan Vos said that there are "bonds beyond memory", and that was what he relied to. He said that in the sense I've given, not exactly literally.

     
  11. R2D35

    R2D35 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    The movie answer to this question comes in three places:

    ATOC: The Jedi had tracking devices on their body... That is how Obi-Wan comes to find Anakin is on Tatoonie rather than Naboo.. He contacts him via more traditional means..

    ESB, ROTJ: Obi-Wan contacts Luke and Yoda from the great beyond...He contacts Luke both on Hoth and Degobah... He also contacts Yoda on Degobah...

    ESB, ROTJ: Also, Vader and Luke have conversation accross empty space.. In ESB, the convsersation is broadcast for the audience... He tries to seduce Luke from a far away, hoping to lure Luke into the super star destroyer... In ROTJ, he feels Luke is on the stolen Imperial shuttle....

    I would say that the deeper the bond, the easier to contact the person over a long way.. Vader could feel Lukes presence over a longer distance than he could feel Obi-Wan... Which he only felt when Obi popped on the Death Star in ANH... Obi-Wan and Anakin may have had a friendship, but it did not run very deep..Thus, Obi-Wan needing to find Anakin with his tracking device rather than feeling him in ATOC.. So if characters have a deep bond such as parent/child or good friend/good friend then it is possible to feel individual tremors in the Force...
     
  12. AlrikFassbauer

    AlrikFassbauer Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Obi-Wan could sense Vader on board of the Death Star.

    The Emperor didn't have such a bond towards Luke: He asked Vader whether he was sure about Luke or not ( ! ) .

     
  13. KrystalBlaze

    KrystalBlaze Jedi Master star 5

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    As everyone else said, I always thought it depended on the people involved. Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan, for instance, probably had a bond that was formed through love and trust. I assumed they felt other's feelings, but I think it's really fake to have them talk to each other in their minds.
     
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