Jedi Padawan trials

I wasnt sure where to put this question, but it is in the novelizations of the movies, so here goes: What are the trials? Can anyone give me a description of them, what they entail, and any websites I can visit to get info. Thanks.

 

I don't think we are ever told. But I would assume a major part of them would be the trial Luke went through in the Cave on Dagabagh.

 

I know I read about a Jedi's trials. I think it was in one of the Jedi Apprentice books. It was something about each Jedi's trial was uniqe. The Council would decide that some big mission could be the trial or some test or whatever they felt was best for that individual. I really wish I could remember exactly what book this was in. Sorry I can't be more help. I'll go look later and see if I can't figure out what I'm trying to remember.

Bratty

 

Maybe since they say Trials, plural, me and Bratty can both be right? I just know that Kyp went through a really cheesy version of the trials in JAT.

 

I think brattyjedimaster is right.

AXL

 

Well, I went and checked my books to see if I could find the story that I was thinking of. I found one story of a Padawan Trials. In Darth Maul: Shadow Hunter, there is a padawan who in the very beginning of the book is sent out on a solo mission. This is her first mission without her Master. If she succedds she will be a Jedi Knight. She is under the impression that if she fails she will be kicked out of the Jedi Order forever. I don't remember if that ever comes close to happening or not, because she dies before the end of the book, if I remember correctly.

I still think that there is another story that I'm thinking of though. I just can't find it. Maybe there isn't. I could be wrong. Stranger things have happened

Hope this helps,
Bratty

 

From what i remeber of Jedi Apprentice Obi-Wan had to duel with something or someone. And the Qui-Gon picked him to be his apprentice. So I think the trials are when the Jedi duel and other things to show off there force skills. Then the Jedi select there padawan.

 

No, no, they're talking about the Trials between Padawan and Jedi Knight, (right?). That girl had that bodyguard assignment, Obi earned his status by defeating Darth Maul, and it's possible that Anakin's solo bodyguard mission might have contributed towards the trials.

 

In DM:SH that wasn't a trial, just part of her training. To see how good and self reliant she had become.

And the trials are to become a knoight, not to become a padawan.

If the Dagobah thing wasn't a trial then what was it?

 

It was a test.

I agree with Bratty Jedi Master.
I always figured every Padawan's trials were different.

 

Trell, that wasn't merely training for Darsha Assant, that was the final test. The one which would have made her a Jedi Knight had she suceeded.

Based on what is said in DM:SH, TPM, and AotC, as well as RoTJ to a certain extent, I'd say the trials are little more than tests to see how close a Padawan is to becoming a Knight. If memory serves, Anakin acting as Padme's body guard was not only his first solo mission, it was also the first of his trials. But it is the final test, a set of trials beyond any other, that allow a Jedi Padawan to be Jedi Knight.

 

Then I ask again, what was the cave on Dagobah and Kyp in the temple? Are these the early parts of the trials? And why didn't Anakin fail misraebly?

 

I'd say they most likely are, though certainly not the final trials. This is essentially confirmed, in response to the Dagobah cave being a trial for Luke at the very least, when Luke says he's learned so much since his experince in the cave. In fact, in the novelization, there is a good bit of training after the cave that points to this fact.

 

For Luke, his final trial to become a Knight was facing Vader again. Yoda himself said that. Now Luke, with the new Jedi doesn't know exactly how things were done. He makes people Knights when he feels like, which is kind of what the temple thing with Kyp was. I guess you could say Kyp's trials were a two-parter. The destruction of the Sun Crusher followed by the cave. At least, I think that was the order they came in. And I think Kyp became a Knight right after that. If not, just ignore, I'm crazy.

Bratty

 

What about the idea of giving something up, a personal sort of sacrifice - like Mara did with her ship....(bad fan, can't remember names of books....just plots)
Reb

 

I don't see that as being a bridge between padawan and knight. Jedi aren't suppose to have possessions. AotC says as much. When Mara sacrificed her ship it was more her finally imbracing being a jedi then a trial of her becoming a knight.

 

They even mention it in the AOTC novel don't they. There is a part where Obi-Wan questions if Anakin realizes that protecting the Senator is part of his trails.

 

One of Anakin's trials was in TPM. The more I look back at the scene where Yoda asks about his mother, the more I think it was a trial...and the flash of anger Anakin showed, was why Yoda was reluctant to have him trained.

I can see Anakin's trials being very boring, requiring patience and the need to control his anger. (And being a body guard fits this description.)

 

Wrong, the "temple thing with Kyp" was not making Kyp a knight. Kyp did not become a Jedi Knight until Darksaber, which was a year after the events of JAT. Which points to the fact that Kyp underwent more training and test before he could be declared a Knight.

Also, it seems terribly foolish to say Luke had no clue how things were done when you consider all his searches and the various info he retrived on the Jedi. To say he had no clue how the main order worked during the Prequel era is more fitting as he knew a good deal of how the Jedi worked before this time. He also had access to the Jedi library on Ossus, which provided him with a larger source of knowledge than his quests in the years immediately following Endor did.