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Jedi pilots and their lack of flight suits

Discussion in 'Prequel Trilogy' started by DarthGonzo, Sep 17, 2009.

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  1. DarthGonzo

    DarthGonzo Jedi Grand Master

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    This has been bugging me ever since I saw AOTC back in '02; why don't any of the Jedi pilots where some sort of protective flight suit? I know the Force enables the jedi to do quite a bit, but I'm still thinking the vacuum of space would prove a challenge (unless you're Galen Marek, I guess...:p ). Does this bother anyone else? Just from a merchandising POV, I can't believe it didn't happen.

    Has there ever been any sort of explanation about this or is this just one of those things we fans just accept?
     
  2. voodoopuuduu

    voodoopuuduu Jedi Knight star 5

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    My guess is that the interior of all the spacecraft in the GFFA had pilot/passenger protection and comfort via some kind of force field when activated.
     
  3. Dark_Jedi_Kenobi

    Dark_Jedi_Kenobi Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    It would make practical sense for the Jedi to wear armor while in combat as well, and that's something we only saw in the CW cartoon (although I thought it looked really cool). I don't think there's really an in-universe answer other than a Jedi planning to board an enemy vessel for combat and thus needing the extra mobility that simple robes provide.
     
  4. CloneUncleOwen

    CloneUncleOwen Jedi Master star 4

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    Apparently Kel Dor like Plo Koon are up to the EVA gig, but I dont know
    about other species. Maybe it's a fashion statement, or something. It does
    seem like a pretty needless risk to take, considering the amount of combat
    they (the Jedi) are involved with.
     
  5. Jovieve

    Jovieve Jedi Padawan star 4

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    My first thought would be because they're not pilots primarily. They're just using the fighters as transportation.
     
  6. Kalphite

    Kalphite Jedi Youngling star 2

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    A really good thread topic, never thought about it before.

    First thought of course is, if they're wearing a vac-suit, they won't be able to jump out of their fighters really quick after crash-landing and start killing stuff right away. (Gawd I love that scene..)

    But yea, it does seem like a needless risk...but it does look way cooler.
     
  7. Jovieve

    Jovieve Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Why do pilots wear flight suits anyway?

    From what I've read, it's to keep them warm, provide them with pockets and is flame resistant in case of fire. Do Jedi need this?

    Now G-suits are worn to help alleviate pressure buildup of blood pooling in the extremities due to all the G-forces they're pulling in turns and banks. Sounds more logical that they would wear this, but in GFFA, since they have such sublight speed capabilities and are traveling mostly in a vacuum, would this type of suit really be necessary?
     
  8. DarthPoppy

    DarthPoppy Jedi Master star 4

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    I think in the iconography of the Star Wars saga, which is told visually, it is to reinforce the notion that the Jedi are not soldiers; it the OT we see Rebel and Imperial pilots alike wearing flight suits, but they are professional soldiers, wearing uniforms; the Imperials are wearing what seems to be pressurized suits, but the rebels are just wearing jumpsuits that keep them warm, no doubt, but are not pressurized--they are military uniforms though; the Jedi aren't literally supposed to be "military".

    For those fans more inclined to deeper meaning, I suppose the lack of Jedi wearing flight suits could also be seen as their own egoism, which seems to be a theme in the decline of the Jedi and the Old Republic.

    Or maybe a cigar is just a cigar.
     
  9. DarthBoba

    DarthBoba Manager Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    You'd need a pressure suit for surface to space transition if you weren't a Jedi. Assuming X-Wings and so on don't have something that alleviates that-it's why the astronauts wear their space suits.
     
  10. Hernalt

    Hernalt Force Ghost star 4

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    At first approximation, I'd call this a deliberate oversight to facilitate the CGI fest of having a Jedi spectacularly jump out of his fighter on the Grievous ship (and it Was duly spectacular, for a cartoon). To fly without flight suits or some kind of g-force protection 20+ years before the original trilogy implies some gross catastrophic loss of military technology. To assert it's 'cuz dar Jedi' is god of the gaps.

    While your're at it, what was Biggs talking about when he told Porkins to eject? I saw no nothing to suggest a rapidly de-ployable pressurization suit. Was it supposed to be the entire cockpit that could eject?
     
  11. DarthBoba

    DarthBoba Manager Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Yeah, it's the whole cockpit.

     
  12. Jovieve

    Jovieve Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Yes, assuming that their ships are like ours. Pressure suits are worn to fight the g-forces from the rockets blasting that are needed to break from earth's gravity. GFFA has anti-grav on their ships, all of them. They don't fight gravity, their ships have neutralized it. That's why you don't see rockets blasting the ships up, only forward.
     
  13. Arawn_Fenn

    Arawn_Fenn Chosen One star 7

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    ...the misleading/erroneous reference in Luke Skywalker and the Shadows of Mindor notwithstanding.:p
     
  14. CloneUncleOwen

    CloneUncleOwen Jedi Master star 4

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    Yeah, that's pretty much the case; it's a blast creating scenes like this and they're a lot of fun to watch.
    Then, of course, you scratch your head and say "this really doesn't make any sense"; but it's almost as much
    fun trying to explain it all.

    As far as Porkins ejecting, forget it! With all those McDonald's, Taco Bell and and Jack in the Box wrappers
    stuffed in the cockpit with him, he'd never clear the canopy.
     
  15. Hernalt

    Hernalt Force Ghost star 4

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    SW77 mapped WWII dog fighting/aerial combat. The one small ship that did not require flight suits was the MF, the hotrod/stallion that mapped complementary and overlapping segments of the American mythos (here I have to delineate the piracy aspect as more archtypical than American in nostaglia). When we get to Luke arriving on Dagobah, there must be a transition between WWII motif and explorer/Age of Discovery motif. So he has to change apparel. The transition carries a slight temporal cost.

    With the Jedi fighters, Kenobi gets to be Bogart in Maltese Falcon (Han's other car is a Buick Century) and we can hear noir track from the O-wing hyperdrives to "Curious..." The feel would have been way off had he been encumbered by a flight suit, and his robe would be very wrinkly.
     
  16. Dark Lady Mara

    Dark Lady Mara Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Yeah, I'd be worried about their exposed faces/heads under the helmet in the vacuum of space otherwise. :p
     
  17. DarthBoba

    DarthBoba Manager Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Wedge is freeze-proof. :p
     
  18. CraigTNelson

    CraigTNelson Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I've always assumed their ships are more advanced and such safeguards are unnecessary.
     
  19. rsterling78

    rsterling78 Jedi Knight star 5

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    Jedi eject from severely damaged ships and are flash frozen by the vacuum of space. A specially trained team of clone pilots recover these "knightsicles" which are then disrobed, placed in a diaper, and dunked into a Bacta fluid vat overseen by medical droids who have plastic tubes coming out of their mouthpieces for some reason.

    [image=http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3418/3370252836_323f4998b6.jpg]
     
  20. CraigTNelson

    CraigTNelson Jedi Youngling star 1

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    the funny side of Star Wars everybody. Somebody cue the laugh track.
     
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