Jedi/Relationships/Marriage

I've heard conflicting reports in the past and was wanting to know if Jedi can get married or even have relationships?

In the movies we are led to believe no.

In the EU Luke and Mara and Han and Leia are married. Danni and Jacen are working on a relationship. Jaina,Jag, and Kyp have a love triangle going on sort of. And Anakin and Tahiri loved eachother.

So whats the answer?

 

The EU Jedi aren't by-the-book Jedi, so they do pretty much whatever they want.

The prequel Jedi are traditional and live by the code, thus they don't marry/have relationships.

 

What he said.

Anakin's problem was that he wanted a relationship with Padme, which was forbidden by the Jedi Code.

 

Not doubting you guys but I thought the EU was canon?

Anyway thanks for the info.

 

BobaFrank: The EU is canon.

The reason Leia can marry is because, even though she trained as a Jedi and has a lightsaber and such, she is not officially recognized as one of the Order.


The reason Luke and Mara could marry, and the reason Jaina, Kyp, Tahiri, and Anakin could fall in love is because they are of the new Jedi Order. Luke allows them to marry, as they are not of the old Order and are actually a new breed of Jedi Knights.


Ken Kenobi- And you have a nice day

 

Actually, the reason the Jedi of the New Order are allowed to marry (as Luke explains in DW) is because where as Jedi of the Old order grew up knowing they wouldn't marry, Luke was forced to accept older trainees who had already developed relationships and also because he believes that family makes Jedi more of a person.

 

I think it also could be that much of the information on the Old Republic Jedi order was lost, so Luke might simply not have known that the Jedi weren't supposed to have relationships. At least in the beginning, then after that when he found out (that is, assuming he found out before Vergere told him) he could've just figured it didn't really matter.

 

I'm not sure if you know this, but a member of the Jedi Council, Ki-Adi-Mundi is married.

Taken from the OS' EU section.

A contemplative Cerean, Ki-Adi-Mundi was the sole Jedi Knight serving on the Council during the start of his tenure, sitting amongst an assemblage of Jedi Masters. As a four year old, Ki's raw talents in the Force were discovered by the mysterious Jedi Master known only as the Dark Woman. Ki's family, realizing that the galaxy needed protectors to save the innocent from such threats as Cerea's own unscrupulous raider Bin-Garda-Zon, allowed Ki to be taken to Coruscant to undergo Jedi training.

Upon entering the larger world of the Jedi, the Council assigned Ki-Ad-Mundi to Jedi Master Yoda. Decades later, Ki-Adi-Mundi returned to Cerea to help rid the world of the marauding raiders. Ki became watchman for the Cerean system, observing his peaceful world undergo the growing pains of joining an increasingly advanced and hectic Republic.

Despite adherence to the Jedi philosophies, Ki was, in his hearts, a Cerean. He followed the Cerean custom of polygamous marriage, taking a bond wife, Shea, and four honor wives. He fathered seven daughters and became a strong community leader.

Around the time of the Battle of Naboo, Ki was embroiled in a political struggle as proponents of progress sought to change Cerea's serene ways. Ki's own daughter, Sylvn, joined the radicals, placing her life in danger as she became kidnapped by the criminal gun-runner Ephant Mon. Ki tracked Mon to Tatooine, discovered the duplicitous involvement of the Trade Federation, and rescued his daughter.

Following his exploits on Tatooine, Ki-Adi-Mundi was invited to permenantly join the Jedi Council, filling a space left vacant by the recently deceased Master Micah Giett.

Ki-Adi-Mundi returned to Tatooine, searching for the missing Jedi Master Sharad Hett. After adventuring in the deadly desert sands, Ki-Adi-Mundi found Hett and his son A'Sharad, who had been living with the native Tusken Raiders. Hett was killed by the Jedi hunter Aurra Sing, and Ki-Adi-Mundi took A'sharad as his Padawan, continuing the young Jedi's training.

http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/kiadimundi/eu.html

 

KenKenobi: I think the EU is not canon, the films are

 

Taken from OS' "Behind The Scenes" section:

The earliest incarnation of Coruscant appeared in the rough draft scripts of Star Wars, when the Imperial capital world was known as Alderaan. Subsequent rewrites briefly changed its name to Granicus before dropping it from the A New Hope storyline altogether.

The Imperial capital world was resurrected in the draft scripts for Return of the Jedi, this time as Had Abbadon. The script described a city-covered planet plagued by pollution and home to the Emperor's throne. Practical considerations of realizing this planet on screen, as well as the evolving storyline of Episode VI, resulted in the capital world again being abandoned.

Author Timothy Zahn gave Coruscant its name in his 1991 novel, Heir to the Empire. When it came time to finally unveil the galactic capital on the big screen in the revamped ending of the Return of the Jedi Special Edition release, Lucas adopted the name Coruscant.

For instance, the name Coruscant is taken from EU. So I would consider EU as canon in certain situations.


EDIT:
The URL for the quote:
http://www.starwars.com/databank/location/coruscant/bts.html

 

I think that it was not exactly the Jedi's strictest rule not to love or marry. I think they thought it could distract a Jedi from the force. So it looks like they let great, powerful, and experienced Jedi's to marry, as in Ki-Adi-Mundi's case. Later, the rule was abandoned all together by LUke Skywalker for his New Jedi order.

 

Actually, JacensGirl, it was a pretty strict rule back in the Old Repulbic age of Jedi. The only reason Ki-Adi was allowed to marry was because his race was in danger of extinction and there was a seriously unbalanced ratio of Males to Females of his species and he needed to procreate in order to save them. It was also of his species' custom to not only marry, but also have more than one wife, and therefore there was even more reason for the Jedi Council to allow it. This is also the case with Nejaa Halcyon, who was allowed to marry (and eventually had Hal Horn, who then had Corran Horn ) because of his allegiance as a Corellian.

Therefore his case was an exception, and one in which the did not conflict the Jedi Code's ruling.


Ken Kenobi- And you have a nice day

 

Takin from the Role Playing Forums Rules... actually I cant find it . But I remember that ONLY movies are cannon. EU is reckognized, but not cannon.

 

"Canon refers to an authoritative list of books that the Lucas Licensing editors consider an authentic part of the official Star Wars history. Our goal is to present a continuous and unified history of the Star Wars galaxy, insofar as that history does not conflict with, or undermine the meaning of Mr. Lucas's Star Wars saga of films and screenplays. Things that Lucas Licensing does not consider official parts of the continuous Star Wars history show an Infinities logo or are contained in Star Wars Tales. Everything else is considered canon."
-LFL Official Policy Statement

The EU is quite canononical.

Ken Kenobi- And you have a nice day

 

Yeah, what he said.

 

Ahhhh. well now that I know that, I'll just shut up

 

KenKenobi, i don't think JacensGirl said that. I did. And where did you get that it was such a strict rule?

 

slimybug: I'm sorry, I keep forgetting JacensGirl changed her icon, and you have the one she used to have. Sorry about that.

And where did you get that it was such a strict rule?

This was a challenge to Anakin. Had he been schooled in the Jedi ways from infancy, he would have had a tighter rein on his emotions. Instead, his mind was preoccupied with thoughts of Padmé or thoughts of his mother. He had not mastered the detachment so necessary to the Jedi order.
-OS Databank Entry for Anakin Skywalker

Also, the severity of the rule is made quite clear in AotC.


Ken Kenobi- And you have a nice day

 

The reason Leia can marry is because, even though she trained as a Jedi and has a lightsaber and such, she is not officially recognized as one of the Order.


The reason Luke and Mara could marry, and the reason Jaina, Kyp, Tahiri, and Anakin could fall in love is because they are of the new Jedi Order. Luke allows them to marry, as they are not of the old Order and are actually a new breed of Jedi Knights.
So you see.

 

First Corellian Jedi are kind of like the Anglican Rite in the Catholic church-they pledge allegiance to the Council, but still have their own way of doing things.

MY theory is that you're not allowed to fall in love because it makes things too complicated-BUT...I'm sure more than a few Jedi have "unofficial" relationships, especially with one another. At the very least, I'm sure they do the "friends with benefits" thing.