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A/V Jedi Temple Challenge

Discussion in 'Literature' started by The2ndQuest , Jun 14, 2020.

  1. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    So, this Legends of the Hidden Temple-esque game show on Star Wars Kids has some noteworthy info that may be contributing to canon.

    Ahmed Best is playing Jedi Master Kelleran Beq (a relative to Best's character from AOTC), and is accompanied by the astromech LX-R5 and a protocol droid voiced by Mary Holland named AD-3 (the latter of whom relays an illustrated story every episode that is written by Cavan Scott). Sam Witwer and Frank Oz (!!) also provide voices. Part of each episode also takes place aboard the Pelta-class frigate Athylia.

    The first two episodes are online now:




    I imagine the stories would be of the most interest here, as they could be potentially canon (or, at least, canon as in-universe stories, if not actual historical events). The series seems set in the PT era, though the second episode's story includes Ewoks and I'm not sure if they're supposed to be a known, off-world species at this point in the timeline.
     
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  2. Dawud786

    Dawud786 Chosen One star 5

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    Until confirmation, I am placing this sometime after TROS... only because the "padawan" costumes remind me of Finn's TROS clothes.

    That said, could end up dovetailed with The High Republic.

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  3. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Chosen One star 8

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    I am taking it as "canon" with a dose of "artistic license" to it. Kind of like Lego Star Wars, sorta canon. So Best's Jedi Master was probably a guy who put youngling Padawans through various training and trails and this would be metaphorically representative of it, if not hard factual canon "truth". Maybe even the Sith voice could be the Sith temple underneath the Jedi temple (but nobody knows about it though)

    Well the production design is definitely elaborate (that ship shot is great), Best has enthusiastic delivery (of course we already knew that), seeing a few kids repeatedly faceplant in the first round was kinda funny & hey Frank Oz Yoda voice cameo! Worth checking out the first episode but can't really commit to all of the episodes since it'll basically be the same (nicely designed) sets and challenges over and over. Someone tell me if anyone ever uses the Sam Witwer voiced Dark side shortcut
     
  4. Senpezeco

    Senpezeco Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Our boy is everywhere lately! [face_alien]
     
  5. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    They do- in the second episode. It basically makes the cable connection room go darker to make it more difficult for them to find the matching connectors. At least in that episode. Not sure if they switch it up each time.
     
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  6. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Chosen One star 8

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    Dammit if Jaxxon is in episode 2 I may have to watch it now. Or just skip to that part.
     
  7. Dawud786

    Dawud786 Chosen One star 5

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    Anyone seen how you apply to be on the show? I have a 9 year old that wants to do it.

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  8. The2ndQuest

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    I think, at the very least, skipping to the second segment would be the point of interest for lore fans, since that segment will have the new Cavan Scott stories each episode. Though there are occasional little nuggets in Beq's banter with the droids during the other parts (ie: it took him several times to complete the temple challenge).

    They've presumably filmed all 10 episodes for this season already. And production restrictions in LA due to COVID will likely affect their ability to shoot a second season before next year.

    No idea how they pick them- but I wouldn't be surprised if some aspect of this show gets integrated into Galaxy's Edge, like the Jedi training stage show they hold outside of Star Tours.

    EDIT- Another shot of the Athylia from the show, as well as the unnamed planet that the Jedi Temple itself is on:

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  9. ColeFardreamer

    ColeFardreamer Force Ghost star 5

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    I love my Peltas!

    But part of me still wishes they had chosen the Chu'untor... with the shows finale episode taking place on Dathomir [face_tee_hee]
     
  10. SilentGuy66

    SilentGuy66 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Given the target audience, I wouldn't at all be surprised if Best's Jedi character made some from of appearance in the Star Wars Adventures comics.
     
  11. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Oh, depending on what era they settle on, I an almost certainly see these three characters being used for a variety of kids-centric stuff. Like, instead of "See Threepio and Artoo Teach [insert subject]", the storybook or comic would be "hosted"/narrated/told via frame story by them.
     
  12. Barriss_Coffee

    Barriss_Coffee Chosen One star 6

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    Honestly, these are the two safest periods. Anytime between TPM-TROS is a train wreck.
     
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  13. sidv88

    sidv88 Force Ghost star 5

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    Well, considering Kelleran Beq looks just like Achk Med Beq, we can assume they're twin brothers, meaning the show does take place between TPM-TROS :eek:

    Or make it more grim and have Kelleran be the sole Jedi Master other than Luke of Luke's order, with an appearance by Mark Hamill saying "Great job training these students, Master Beq!" They high-five and the audience realizes in horror these are the students Kylo wiped out.

    Or Kelleran or Achk Med is a clone of the other.

    Or Achk Med is a direct descendant (hey the Soong family over on Star Trek get away with all looking alike) and Kelleran has been breaking the Jedi code and having kids.

    I didn't know this was out already, so I'll watch these episodes tonight.
     
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  14. Dawud786

    Dawud786 Chosen One star 5

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    I'd say after TROS, as well, because of Yoda's spectral communications. It's just like Galaxy's Edge, so it makes sense to me.

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  15. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Chosen One star 8

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    It'd have to be way post TROS considering Master Beq's age. Maybe Rey's Jedi Order was founded on harsh daily trials of endurance training and strength and wits. "I had to grow up on bloody Jakku doing this every day so y'all have to too!" "Yes, Master Skywalker!"
     
  16. Coherent Axe

    Coherent Axe Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    The whole vibe shouts prequel era to me; a formal Jedi Order and Jedi Trials, Beq mentioning the Council, Pelta frigates, Ahmed himself essentially being so famously tied to the prequel era... and we know Yoda can communicate with Jedi across the galaxy thanks to Rebels without needing to be dead.

    I also think it'd be a bit of a waste for some Future Jedi Order to be in the exact same mould as the old one, especially when the whole point was that the prequel Jedi were flawed and too dogmatic. Going straight back to that formalized, Council-led structure would be a real missed opportunity for a different kind of Order post-TROS, especially with the shades of Arthurian legend in TFA.
     
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  17. sidv88

    sidv88 Force Ghost star 5

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    I highly doubt a kids' game show of all things is going to emphasize the old, rigid, dogmatic prequel Jedi and their fundamentalist strict rules. I have no problem with this being a post-Rise of Skywalker Jedi order that had the cosmetic design (clothes, council, etc.) of the prequel Jedi without the extremist fundamentalism.
     
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  18. The2ndQuest

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    Yeah, I'd rather this be set between TPM & AOTC. Avoids having to stretch the Peltas, R5s and other tech into the far future or the distant past. And it's closer to AOTC so the Beqs don't have to be separated by generations. The overall feel does have a PT sensibility to it- and the whole lightsaber trials/temple premise here, pretty obviously echoes the Young Jedi arc from TCW (right down the idea of a time limit to retrieve a kyber crystal, etc).

    Just a question of the story content (ie: Ewoks) throwing potential continuity hiccups into things from that timeline POV.
     
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  19. sidv88

    sidv88 Force Ghost star 5

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    Well, this is the same franchise where the last continuity showed tech to be stagnant for thousands of years...

    And even in Star Trek, which didn't have that tech stagnation complaint, Excelsior class ships etc. were still being used a century later.
     
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  20. The2ndQuest

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    True, but, typically, there were some kind of variation in those models, even if the overall design lineage lingered.
     
  21. Coherent Axe

    Coherent Axe Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Sure, but what I'm saying is those trappings all mean it's the same dogmatic, fundamentalist Order, rather than something entirely new. I'd also highly doubt a kids' show is going to introduce the post-TROS world in the first place, either.
     
  22. Daneira

    Daneira Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Ewoks are known to the galaxy by at least the Clone Wars considering the diner they go to in Missing in Action (the episode where Meebur Gascon and the droids find Gregor) serves Ewok jerky.
     
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  23. sidv88

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    I'll have to fully watch the show before I can comment more, but I think it's safe for me to assume that Kelleran Beq is a lot nicer than, say, Mace Windu despite wearing the same clothes.

    And as for a game show introducing the post-ROS world, well stranger things have happened. The Holiday Special gave us Boba Fett after all, and Palpatine's return was on Fortnite of all things.

    I'd honestly rather have any post-ROS work just have an already setup Jedi status quo and run with it rather than show us rebuilding the Jedi all over again (the rebuilding of which should have been old news decades ago after ROTJ until the ST destroyed them again). This game show's setup seems as good as any to go with.

    If there was any storytelling direction on having the Jedi change their dogmatic beliefs etc., that ship sailed when TLJ claimed to be a movie about needing "the Jedi to end" and then switched out any serious discussion on their flaws or rigid rules with an old story about Luke making a criminal mistake, blaming it on the Jedi, and then coming around at the end (all of which did nothing to address the prequel Jedi's fundamental problems)
     
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  24. Coherent Axe

    Coherent Axe Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Again, I'm not saying the game show addresses anything to do with Jedi fundamentalism, just that the props, staging, and references don't seem to diverge at all from the prequel era setup, which makes it much more likely to be set in that era than in a different one.

    And the ship hasn't sailed at all. Luke brought up some flaws, but chose to embrace the Jedi way again. That doesn't mean there were no flaws or they're somehow unable to be addressed in the future.
     
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  25. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Ah, good, problem solved! I would then continue to advocate for a TPM-AOTC setting. A time of relative peace / status quo Jedi stuff.

    Plus, it opens the door for some CW-era & DT-era NU Jedi to be named after participants on this show.

    Luke came around to embracing his legend, not necessarily the ways of the old order. And, to be fair, the whole "revere the past"/"kill the past" dynamic of TFA & TLJ was setting up "a new way" choice that Duel of the Fates was going to pay off. So, it's more that that ship sailed when ROS dropped the setup from the previous two films.
     
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