Jedi vs. Sith's place in Darth Bane: Path of Destruction

Where does Jedi vs. Sith fit in relation to Darth Bane: Path of Destruction? During or after?

 

During.

 

And now begins the Canon debate. Oh yay.

 

Nah, that's already raging in the Rule of Two thread.

 

The first 247 pages of SWDBPODANOTOR take place before Jedi vs. Sith. The rest of the book is essentially a retelling of the comic, but out of order and with a few extra scenes thrown in. So in relation to JvS, the pages of Path of Destruction are numbered like this:

1-247
251-265
269-294
296-300
248-251
266-269
285
295-296
300-317
319-324
317-319

 

WOW! now that is thurough!

 

I lost my JvS virginity last night.

It was good.

I must say, whilst I am pleased that Drew contradicted the BotS characterisation and played down the "the dark side is weak when spread across the masses" nonsense, I do wish he could have stuck to the order of events established by JvS a bit more.

I'd also have liked to have seen Bane's training finish a couple of years prior to the Battle of Ruusan, so he had time to be a warlord and meet Kaan before their encounter on Ruusan and stuff. JvS Bane comes across as a grizzled veteran, not some wet-behind-the-ears student. (Granted, PoD Bane was an awesome student, but I think my point still stands. In JvS there's a near-tangible HISTORY between Bane and Kaan. In PoD? Not so much. It's also clear that the concept of "We are all Dark Lords in the Brotherhood" is something Bane never heard before Ruusan)

Still like PoD, though, a lot. I will just be a little more reluctant to embrace the final chapters as warmly as the earlier ones.

P.S. Farfella and his "crew" of mythological misfits need their own damn comic series! They rule so much!

"FIRST WE SPILL WINE, THEN WE SPILL BLOOD(soup?)!

Get on it Dark Horse!

 

Well, there is no indication that the Force is out of balance in the era of Ruusan, even though there are a lot of Sith running around. Perhaps unbalancing the Force requires an uber-Sith.

 

*impressed by Catherine's work*

Now somebody oughta publish it that way and everyone's happy.

Suddenly, after defending Drew's right to change scenes around, I find myself wondering why he actually did it. He came in here to defend his right to do it, I remember - which is courageous and commendable - but I don't think he elaborated much on why he did it, did he?

 

When PoD came out, I actually read JvS and PoD in conjunction having not read JvS before. When doing this, JvS is so pathetic it makes one wretch. I absolutely loved Pod, and in fact re-read it this weekend to gear up for Rule of Two. I think it does a nice job legitimizing an otherwise worthless and poorly written comic. The ending of each is a little different, however, I choose the novel over comic in my Star Wars Universe continuity.

Additionally, we see in the novel that Bane did serve in the Sith Army before Ruusan and his time at Korriban for nearly a year. To me, it seems like he is a 'grizzled old veteran' in some sense of the word. We also have to take into account his time in the mines, which would harden anybody up!

 

But he's a Sith greenhorn in the JvS timeframe, which is clearly not what we see in JvS. Frankly, I liked him a whole lot more in JvS.

 

Grizzled old veteran in the wrong sense of the word. He's clearly been a powerful man in the Sith hierarchy for a fair amount of time prior to Ruusan. I got strong "me and Kaan used to be the Naga Sadow and Ludo Kressh of this era" vibes.

I don't know how anyone could think that Bane and Kaan had never met before from reading JvS on it's own. Or why anyone would want that to be the case.

JvS isn't perfect, by any stretch of the imagination... it just seems that moving the events around was ultimately unneccessary. And it's made more frustrating by the fact that Drew proved in *other* places that he can enhance material brilliantly. The scene on Ambria is a lot cooler with the context Drew provided.

Anyway, on the whole I still give a big thumbs up to PoD and Farfella is appearing in RoT, so I'm happy. I just hope his goat legs get mentioned this time

 

I thought the whole goat leg thing with Farfella and his crew was really pants, not to mention the whole wooden spaceship thing. I was really relived when the novel made no mention of them. I know it's sci-fi, but it has to at least be plausable.

 

Why?

Why is it any more pants than giant walking carpets? Or Force-using gremlins for that matter.

Science Fantasy.

Question: How is it implausible to believe that Farfella likes the aesthetic of wood? The wood is there for the look, not for any sort of practicality. I'm sure that beneath the "wooden-hull" there were much more sturdy materials.

And Drew DID mention Farfella, his crew AND his ship. He just didn't describe them. I've got no problem with that, personally.

RoT Spoiler
But if Farfella is as big a presence in RoT as I have been led to believe, I think it's only fair that he gets a full and proper description.

Edit: By the Maker! I've become a JvS apologist!

 

Well, you know, after ROTS, the whole wooden-ship thing is established canon...

 

As I've said elsewhere: "There's nothing inherently physics-defying about a wooden hull. Who's to say that there is *no wood* in a galaxy of countless planets able to withstand the stresses of spaceflight, perhaps as well or better than metal? We on Earth are already looking to carbon composites instead of metals for many advanced tech applications like spaceships."

 

Its not that it isn't possible, its that its silly. I'm sorry, but it is. An elf in a pirate ship, REALY?!?! thats REALY the best they could do?!?! Its lazy wrighting. My x-wife got her creative wrighting degree at a top 5 wrighting collage, and for along time I resented her for ruining alot of fantasy/sci-fi for me. Thats my problem with alot of the older SW stuff, lazy wrighting cause LFL didn't care enough to demand better, and the companies churning it out new the franchise name would sell the product well enough. The comics were the worst, there just aren't that many Chris Clarmounts out there. Although I will agree Bane not being more established in the Brotherhood did mildly stick out, but its worth the trade off.

 

How is is "lazy wrighting", exactly?

Wouldn't it have been lazier to have a non-satyr/elf/leland Sephi turn up in a normal looking battleship?

 

It's not really a pirate ship, it just plays one on TV.

 

It reads as if the author was more interested in writting a fantasy tale in a Lord of the Rings like setting than a proper Star Wars one.

I remember that when it first came out I hated it (well, hate is a strong word, dislike would be better), but with time it grew on me.

 

LOL

but seriously no. creating a memorable charecter without falling back on the preestablished is HARD. Farfella isn't an original charecter, just a steriotype that hadn't been in Star Wars befor. Throwing a reject from Cronicals of Narnia in instead of actualy haveing to CREATE something unique and memorable. Its one thing to "get insperation from" but that was just sad. Kinda like Krayt a sandperson jedi from the clone wars... *sigh*. realy? Realy?! REALY?!?!?!

 

How is Farfalla stereotypical? The fact that he has a lightsaber and travels through space on a wooden ship full of freaks? Is there even a word for someone who has the upper body of an elf and only one pair of horse legs?

What in Star Wars would you consider "unique and memorable"?

Yes, really. Why not?

 

Really.

They (the poor authors you are lambasting) were concentrating on eliminating grammatical errors.

 

Ooh, BURN!

 

Question:
The Valley of the Jedi can transform a Force User into "a creature such as the universe has never seen", with the ability to make a star go nova with a "fleeting thought" and eradicate all life within a Star System "with a whisper".

Why, oh why, oh WHY, did Bane not try to make use of this power? Did he just forget about it? Did he not realise how?

Edit: Awww... I got a Havac-wedgie.