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John F. Kennedy Jr., Carolyn Bessette and that painful Crash

Discussion in 'Archive: Your Jedi Council Community' started by PadawanEmily, Jul 28, 2004.

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  1. PadawanEmily

    PadawanEmily Jedi Master star 8

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    I was at the library the other day and saw this book, "The Other Man", so i pick it up and read the cover and all that and decide to take it out, i finished it that night cause it was pretty intersting. But it was about John F. Kennedy Jr., Carolyn Bessette and Michael Bergin. It was a very intersting read.

    But, what intreged me more was of the plane crash and since then i've been going into my father's things and reading about it, from magazines and such, cause my father was a big fan of The Kennedy's. So what did you think of the Plane Crash? That killed the Kennedy boy and his beautiful queen?

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  2. Mitt

    Mitt Jedi Knight star 6

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    So what do I think of a tragic plane crash? What are you, a reporter?

    Well, I say it was tragic. Another bad loss for the Kennedys. It was a very sad day.
     
  3. Mortimer_Snerd

    Mortimer_Snerd Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Plane crashes are unfortunate and sad, but I don't lose any sleep over lost royalty. Yeah it's a bummer for the family, but does it really affect regular people? I didn't really give a **** when princess Diana bit it either.

     
  4. MasterAero

    MasterAero Jedi Master star 4

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    It was due to him flying in a plane beyond his experience and in situations he wasn't trained for. (Too much plane for the pilot) He suffered from spatial disorientation when he got into fog and darkness. He wasn't an IFR (insturment rated) pilot. THere's an NTSB report out there that explains it pretty well. Tragic event.

    I think the media coverage was a little ridiculous as well. Just hours and hours of showing the ocean. They also gave tons more hours and it upset people more than when anyone else dies in a plane crash or even when there's other plane crashes with 100's of people on board.
     
  5. xie

    xie Jedi Knight star 5

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    There is tons of coverage when there is a commercial jet crash. Nobody remembers TWA Flight 800?
     
  6. Ryno

    Ryno Jedi Padawan star 4

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    It was a shame but not as great of a loss as when his Father and Uncle were killed. JFK Jr. Didn't really do much with his life other than start a failed magazine that was gasping for life when he died.

    I think that given time he very well could have done some real good in this world.He had the Kennedy charm and desire to help people but seemed to have a much stronger moral base than most of his cousins.
     
  7. DVader316

    DVader316 Jedi Knight star 7

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    What did I think of the plane crash ? Gee, I thought it was great. Wish it'd happen more often. [face_plain]


    BTW, 1999 called. They want their thread back.
     
  8. SithApprentice11

    SithApprentice11 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    BTW, 1999 called. They want their thread back.

    OHHHHHHHHH SNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

    HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!

    [face_laugh] [face_laugh] [face_laugh]

    DVADER! That was SO harsh!!!!

    POST OF THE DECAAAAAADE!!

    Ohhhhhhh ha ha ha ha ha! [face_laugh] [face_laugh]

    I felled OUT my chair! I die laughen!!!! 1999 called!? what! ha ha ha ha ha! a year on the PHONE. LOL! LOL!!!!! LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOLMANIA. LOLMANIA.

    [face_laugh] [face_laugh] [face_laugh]

    Dvader THAT was FUNNY TO THE MAAAAAAX!!! [face_laugh] [face_laugh]

    AhhhH! ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!! Kaaaaaslaaaaaaaaam!!!!!


    Heee heee heee hee.






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    Well ON topic I think plane crashs are ALWAYS NOT GOOD. You have to relize this in order to be good. I think what planes should habve is EJECTION SEATS. then EVERYBODY would be sayfe. I dunno. :(
     
  9. DVader316

    DVader316 Jedi Knight star 7

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    You do know that identity theft is a crime, right ? JM22 is NOT going to be happy, my friend.
     
  10. Debo

    Debo Force Ghost star 6

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    Hehe, that post is pretty funny, though. I mean, if you're going to do it, you should totally go over the top.
     
  11. Darth_AYBABTU

    Darth_AYBABTU Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    "You do know that identity theft is a crime, right ? JM22 is NOT going to be happy, my friend."

    "JM22 called and wants his post back" would have been a much better reply.

    AYBABTU

     
  12. DVader316

    DVader316 Jedi Knight star 7

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    True, but I didnt want to go with the same joke twice. Plus you are the undisputed master of JM22 jokes, AYBABTU. I wouldnt want to step on your toes or anything.
     
  13. Amidala Starkiller

    Amidala Starkiller Jedi Master star 6

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    I remember TWA Flight 800.

     
  14. MasterAero

    MasterAero Jedi Master star 4

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    There's been 19 people killed in 11 accidents over the last year and does anyone remember them?

    JFK Jr's crash was special cause the media said so...and people care more about celebs than normal people.

    From NTSB:

    NTSB Identification: NYC99MA178 .
    The docket is stored in the Docket Management System (DMS). Please contact Public Inquiries
    14 CFR Part 91: General Aviation
    Accident occurred Friday, July 16, 1999 in VINEYARD HAVEN, MA
    Probable Cause Approval Date: 7/6/2000
    Aircraft: Piper PA-32R-301, registration: N9253N
    Injuries: 3 Fatal.
    The noninstrument-rated pilot obtained weather forecasts for a cross-country flight, which indicated visual flight rules (VFR) conditions with clear skies and visibilities that varied between 4 to 10 miles along his intended route. The pilot then departed on a dark night. According to a performance study of radar data, the airplane proceeded over land at 5,500 feet. About 34 miles west of Martha's Vineyard Airport, while crossing a 30-mile stretch of water to its destination, the airplane began a descent that varied between 400 to 800 feet per minute (fpm). About 7 miles from the approaching shore, the airplane began a right turn. The airplane stopped its descent at 2,200 feet, then climbed back to 2,600 feet and entered a left turn. While in the left turn, the airplane began another descent that reached about 900 fpm. While still in the descent, the airplane entered a right turn. During this turn, the airplane's rate of descent and airspeed increased. The airplane's rate of descent eventually exceeded 4,700 fpm, and the airplane struck the water in a nose-down attitude. Airports along the coast reported visibilities between 5 and 8 miles. Other pilots flying similar routes on the night of the accident reported no visual horizon while flying over the water because of haze. The pilot's estimated total flight experience was about 310 hours, of which 55 hours were at night. The pilot's estimated flight time in the accident airplane was about 36 hours, of which about 9.4 hours were at night. About 3 hours of that time was without a certified flight instructor (CFI) on board, and about 0.8 hour of that was flown at night and included a night landing. In the 15 months before the accident, the pilot had flown either to or from the destination area about 35 times. The pilot flew at least 17 of these flight legs without a CFI on board, of which 5 were at night. Within 100 days before the accident, the pilot had completed about 50 percent of a formal instrument training course. A Federal Aviation Administration Advisory Circular (AC) 61-27C, "Instrument Flying: Coping with Illusions in Flight," states that illusions or false impressions occur when information provided by sensory organs is misinterpreted or inadequate and that many illusions in flight could be caused by complex motions and certain visual scenes encountered under adverse weather conditions and at night. The AC also states that some illusions might lead to spatial disorientation or the inability to determine accurately the attitude or motion of the aircraft in relation to the earth's surface. The AC further states that spatial disorientation, as a result of continued VFR flight into adverse weather conditions, is regularly near the top of the cause/factor list in annual statistics on fatal aircraft accidents. According to AC 60-4A, "Pilot's Spatial Disorientation," tests conducted with qualified instrument pilots indicated that it can take as long as 35 seconds to establish full control by instruments after a loss of visual reference of the earth's surface. AC 60-4A further states that surface references and the natural horizon may become obscured even though visibility may be above VFR minimums and that an inability to perceive the natural horizon or surface references is common during flights over water, at night, in sparsely populated areas, and in low-visibility conditions. Examination of the airframe, systems, avionics, and engine did not reveal any evidence of a preimpact mechanical malfunction.

    The Na
     
  15. Debo

    Debo Force Ghost star 6

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    Well, what do you expect from someone called "MasterAero"?

    ;)
     
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