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Johnnie Cochran Dead...His legacy to justice thread

Discussion in 'Archive: The Senate Floor' started by TripleB, Apr 1, 2005.

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  1. TripleB

    TripleB Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I was very saddened earlier this week when Johnnie Cochran's death was announced. I think he has been a tremendous influence on Los Angeles County, where I now live, in reforming the Police Department here. He has kept untold numbers of innocent people out of prisions, whose only reason for being arrested were their race.

    "If the Glove Don't Fit...You must aquit. Brilliant. It saved an innocent man from going to prison for murders he did not commit (OJ).


    Too bad he could not have taken Saddamn Hussein's case vs that sham puppet court in Iraq.

    The Missles didn't have to fly, cause George Bush told a lie!!!

     
  2. Cyprusg

    Cyprusg Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Is this another April Fools attempt?
     
  3. Obi-Wan McCartney

    Obi-Wan McCartney Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    This guy. Making millions off cheating the justice system.

    Defense attorney's are supposed to give a guilty man his legal rights and due processs, not to subvert justice.

    Ridiculous;.
     
  4. darthOB1

    darthOB1 Force Ghost star 5

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    His legacy to justice?

    Playing the race card aquitted a guilty man!

    He did more to crush peoples hopes of fair justice and confidence in the justice system than any other man or institution in history!

    What OWM said, Ridiculous!
     
  5. TripleB

    TripleB Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Obi-Wan McCartney said

    This guy. Making millions off cheating the justice system.

    Defense attorney's are supposed to give a guilty man his legal rights and due processs, not to subvert justice.

    Ridiculous;.


    Yeah, how ridiculous is it that almost everyone he has ever defended, turned out to be innocent after all. Look at the record of good, innocent people framed in many cases by the same, corrupt LAPD that gave us such wonderfull things like the Rodney King beating and Rampart scandal.

    darthOB1 said

    His legacy to justice?

    Playing the race card aquitted a guilty man!

    He did more to crush peoples hopes of fair justice and confidence in the justice system than any other man or institution in history!

    What OWM said, Ridiculous!


    Thats a lie and you know it. Johnnie Cochran did his best to provide a fair trial to everyone involved in his cases. He did NOT play a race card in his trial, he has been very vocal about it. It was the LAPD and the prosecution that had to make it a race issue because they knew they had framed him.

    Look at mark fuhrman, perjuring himself the way he did on the witness stand. No Evidence...no murder weapon....

    Do you really want to be ablve to be convicted on such flimsy evidence, that was probably planted anyway???

    Johnnie Cochran is a hero and should be honored for what he has done.
     
  6. Quixotic-Sith

    Quixotic-Sith Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Cochran has an incredible legacy - he made murder legal in California.
     
  7. TripleB

    TripleB Jedi Padawan star 4

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    QS said

    Cochran has an incredible legacy - he made murder legal in California.

    That's a ridiculous statement and you know it!!! How on earth can you claim he mde murder legal is beyond me. If anyone made it legal, it was Bush and his illegal invasion of Iraq, which has killed 1500 of our best and who knows how many Iraq's all because of his desire for war.

    What do you have to say about all the LAPD corruption that he exposed on his own? Pretty impressive, eh? What do you got to say about that. Geronimo Pratt, Todd Bridges, Snoop Dog, Oj....all of them innocent and framed by a corrupt LAPD.
     
  8. Quixotic-Sith

    Quixotic-Sith Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    //looks at the calender

    Ooops, forgot.

    You're right. Cochrane exposed the LAPD for what they were, and OJ was being framed by the man. After all, what better target than a has-been? It's all a part of their devious plot.
     
  9. Jabba-wocky

    Jabba-wocky Chosen One star 10

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    Regardless of how you feel about OJ's guilt or innocence, this thread is disgusting.

    You all seem to forget that our Justice Department must prove things beyond a reasonable doubt. We err on the side of innocence. Sometimes, that's hard, and sometimes we do err. But we've judged it better that a guilty man walk than to have shed the blood of an innocent. That's all that happened here. Either OJ was truly innocent, or the prosecution did not have enough evidence to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. Cochran shouldn't be smeared for that.

    Your attempts to belittle this man's legacy are repugnant.
     
  10. KPoland

    KPoland Jedi Youngling star 1

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    (Shrugs with smile) I'm just glad he's gone.
     
  11. Suzuki_Akira

    Suzuki_Akira Jedi Master star 7

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    How is Cochran different from other DAs?

    He's better. That's all.
     
  12. DarthKarde

    DarthKarde Jedi Knight star 5

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    Cochran did his job and he did it well. If you have a serious problem with the how the system works then say so. If you can suggest credible changes to make then go ahead. Don't blame a guy who just did his job.

    Incidently I believe that OJ was guilty.
     
  13. TripleB

    TripleB Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Oh really, DK? Then why did the police try to frame them?

    Forget about what was true or not, the fact that the police would even attempt to do so is all the light of truth that needed to be shown.

    Look at the Rampart Scandal and the hundreds that may have been innocently sent to prison because of corrupt Police.

    Johnny Cochran exposed them to the light of justice and as such, will always be remembered as aman of justice to me.
     
  14. darthOB1

    darthOB1 Force Ghost star 5

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    Thats a lie and you know it. Johnnie Cochran did his best to provide a fair trial to everyone involved in his cases. He did NOT play a race card in his trial, he has been very vocal about it. It was the LAPD and the prosecution that had to make it a race issue because they knew they had framed him.

    Now that is a lie!

    Even OJ's lead attorney at the time Robert Shapiro said that he stepped down because he didn't want the case to turn into a case were the LAPD was on trial for racism which it turned out to be!

    The shoe prints tell the truth!
    The photos of OJ wearing them were not doctored!

    Its just too bad this evidence wasn't discovered by the LAPD, not that it would have made any difference because of the tainted jury thanks to Mr Cochran.


    Thats the reality of it like it or not!
     
  15. TripleB

    TripleB Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Now that is a lie!

    Even OJ's lead attorney at the time Robert Shapiro said that he stepped down because he didn't want the case to turn into a case were the LAPD was on trial for racism which it turned out to be!


    1) Johnny Cochran went on the Larry King show and said, to the american people, that he did not play a race card!!! End of story.

    2) The LAPD's credibility was almost certanly a very valid part. Look at everything that has come out since then from the LAPD? Rampart Scandal, scandal after scandal. The LAPD was corrupt ,and it took a crusader of truth and justice to expose that. How many other innocent black and latino's have been sent to prison by corrupt LAPD detectives because they could? At least 100 from Rampart division alone!! The LAPD's reputation certainly was a valid issue.

    The shoe prints tell the truth!
    The photos of OJ wearing them were not doctored!


    Circumstantial. Would you want to go to prison because you had the same size shoes as a killer?

    Its just too bad this evidence wasn't discovered by the LAPD, not that it would have made any difference because of the tainted jury thanks to Mr Cochran.

    It was brought up, and a fair and impartial Jury (much more fair then the Rodney King Jury, I might add) saw the truth for themselves.

    Get over it.

    Johnnie Cochran is a modern day SuperMan.
     
  16. darthOB1

    darthOB1 Force Ghost star 5

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    1) Johnny Cochran went on the Larry King show and said, to the american people, that he did not play a race card!!! End of story.

    Of couse he's going to say this! He has to! He has to defend himself from an obvious blunder.

    Not only does it make him unethical regarding criminal trail practices it makes him a liar as well!

    Circumstantial. Would you want to go to prison because you had the same size shoes as a killer?

    Exact same size, and exact same make of shoe, at a crime crime scene that just happens to be where your ex-wife was brtally murdered? RRIIIIIIGGGGGGHHTTT.
    A man who couldn't afford Cochrans inflated attorneys fees would have been sentencesd to death!

    It was brought up, and a fair and impartial Jury (much more fair then the Rodney King Jury, I might add) saw the truth for themselves

    Get your facts straight! This was brought up in the civil suit not the criminal one. This is what helped convince a jury that he did kill his wife and Ron Goldman!

    Johnnie Cochran is a modern day SuperMan.

    Yeah in modern day Bizarro world!

    He ws only interested im making his millions of dollars, not defending the truth or having any regards to any kind of justice, certainly sounds like a hero to me! :rolleyes:

     
  17. TripleB

    TripleB Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Of couse he's going to say this! He has to! He has to defend himself from an obvious blunder.

    Not only does it make him unethical regarding criminal trail practices it makes him a liar as well!


    How dare Johnny Cochran defend teh rights of the accused? You do realize that Rampart proved that OJ could easily be framed. If they can frame poor innocent latino and blacks for crimes they did not commit, what would stop cops from trying to take out an American Icon.

    The fact that Rampart happened is proof positive OJ Was framed.


    Exact same size, and exact same make of shoe, at a crime crime scene that just happens to be where your ex-wife was brtally murdered? RRIIIIIIGGGGGGHHTTT.
    A man who couldn't afford Cochrans inflated attorneys fees would have been sentencesd to death!


    I don't know what size feet OJ has, but I know I have size 11's. Now, if we both have the same size feet...Then maybe the LAPD will frame me for the next murder.

    Get your facts straight! This was brought up in the civil suit not the criminal one. This is what helped convince a jury that he did kill his wife and Ron Goldman!

    How many blacks were on the Jury???

    If the OJ Jury had been shown a video of OJ killing his wife and Ron Goldman, then maybe you could make this case.

    the Rodney King Jury was shown the tape, and were told it was not excessive!! ANd that Jury believed it!!!

    How can you possibly defend that decision1!!!!!!

    Yeah in modern day Bizarro world!

    He ws only interested im making his millions of dollars, not defending the truth or having any regards to any kind of justice, certainly sounds like a hero to me!


    If Johnnie Cochran was interested in making millions he would not practice criminal law, would he?
     
  18. alpha_red

    alpha_red Jedi Youngling star 5

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    Chewbacca is from Kashyyyk, dammit.
     
  19. darthOB1

    darthOB1 Force Ghost star 5

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    I don't know what size feet OJ has, but I know I have size 11's. Now, if we both have the same size feet...Then maybe the LAPD will frame me for the next murder.

    If they had a photo of you wearing a pair of Bruno Magli shoes who style and sole match exactly the foot prints found with blood stains then they might have a case to "frame" you.

    Maybe also if you had a history of beating the person killed the LAPD would have a reason to frame you for such a murder.

    If you could afford such a shoe then you can afford a laywer like Cochran who has no morals and could probably get you off too.

    If the OJ Jury had been shown a video of OJ killing his wife and Ron Goldman, then maybe you could make this case.

    the Rodney King Jury was shown the tape, and were told it was not excessive!! ANd that Jury believed it!!!

    How can you possibly defend that decision1!!!!!!


    Why don't you ask Chris Rock? He seems to agree with the Jury and he's black.

    If Johnnie Cochran was interested in making millions he would not practice criminal law, would he?

    If he was really interested in upholding justice and defending the rights of oppressed minority citizens in LA, then he would help those who really need it.

    Those hundreds of thousands who cannot afford his million dollar price tag for his services.

    Yes his legacy is, if you have enough money you too can get away with murder! End of story ! [face_laugh] :rolleyes:
     
  20. TripleB

    TripleB Jedi Padawan star 4

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    If they had a photo of you wearing a pair of Bruno Magli shoes who style and sole match exactly the foot prints found with blood stains then they might have a case to "frame" you.

    And the LAPD most certainly did. IT is a proven fact that the LAPD's Anti-Gang Unit regularly framed people, arranged shootings, and sold drugs on their own.

    Maybe also if you had a history of beating the person killed the LAPD would have a reason to frame you for such a murder.

    The LAPD is known for it....

    If you could afford such a shoe then you can afford a laywer like Cochran who has no morals and could probably get you off too.

    Can you imagine the terror of being an innocent man, framed by a corrupt group of police officers; and to actually be convicted and sent to prison for it?? You bet I have no problem with good men like Johnnie Cochran out there fighting for the little guy.

    Why don't you ask Chris Rock? He seems to agree with the Jury and he's black.

    Your dodging the question

    If he was really interested in upholding justice and defending the rights of oppressed minority citizens in LA, then he would help those who really need it.

    Those hundreds of thousands who cannot afford his million dollar price tag for his services.

    Yes his legacy is, if you have enough money you too can get away with murder! End of story !


    That's bull and you know it.
     
  21. darthOB1

    darthOB1 Force Ghost star 5

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    And the LAPD most certainly did. IT is a proven fact that the LAPD's Anti-Gang Unit regularly framed people, arranged shootings, and sold drugs on their own.

    So why was it never introduced in the crimincal case?


    The LAPD is known for it....

    So was OJ.

    Can you imagine the terror of being an innocent man, framed by a corrupt group of police officers; and to actually be convicted and sent to prison for it?? You bet I have no problem with good men like Johnnie Cochran out there fighting for the little guy.

    I don't either its just too bad he never once did because their income was too miniscule.

    That's bull and you know it.

    Show me one trail case were JC stood up for the little guy. I only ask for one case. Should be fairly simple if its such bull right?

    Your dodging the question

    No your ignoring the reality of it.

    The same process for jury selection that Rodney King got was in place just the same for OJ. So you like one desicion one jury made but believe the jury was tainted in the other. Thats callled hypocritic!



     
  22. darkcide

    darkcide Jedi Master star 4

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    Johnnie Cochran-Ambulance Chaser.
     
  23. beezel26

    beezel26 Jedi Master star 7

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    actually I think the true standard of Johnnies talent and honesty towards man isnt the fact he let a rich man get off from murder but from the amount of pro bono work he did.

    Should a lawyer do that then thats the measure of his true character. Not how much he made from his rich clients.

    and really are we more upset at trial lawyers or defense lawyers.

    at least defense lawyers dont really contribute to the costs of every man and doctor thru higher insurance premiums.

    trust me as a mechanic it frustrates me to see the stupidity of the justice system over the numerous awards to idiots that sue my industry for their own stupidity or the stupidity of others.

    I mean you can actually make money by not wearing your seat belt and or getting hit by a drunk driver from the manufacturer because they have bigger pockets.
     
  24. Obi-Wan McCartney

    Obi-Wan McCartney Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Cochran was a brilliant attorney whose work elevates us all.

    That's what people don't get about the defense attorney. For the system to work, he MUST be TOTALLY on the side of the defendant, short of helping them commit a crime. Therefore, a defense attorney has the right and duty to make sure the prosecutoir meets their heavy burden of demonstrating every element of the crime has been proven.

    Without the Johnny Cochrans of the world, more innocent people would end up in jail. (Not that I think O.J. was really innocent, but he's definitly not guilty.)
     
  25. Pelranius

    Pelranius Jedi Master star 5

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    You know, I'm actually surprised Michael Jackson didn't hire Cochran as his lawyer for the current ongoing trial.

    Though Mr. Cochran is nothing to the guy who got 50million for his client who got "burned" by a cup of hot coffee.
     
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