A/V Just Announced 7 Years Ago: Andor!! It's happening now!!!

Garm probably not coming back like Mara Jade and Statkiller.

 

I could see Garm showing up somewhere down the line, him and uh... Kinman Doriana. If it doesn’t screw with the Force lore or the Skywalker characters storyline I figure most Legends characters are fair game.

 

I think legends characters will more likley appear in Filoni's led projects. And people into star wars lore.

 

I don't see Bel Iblis as being "off the table" the way Mara Jade and Starkiller are, although I don't get the sense that there's much interest in bringing him into canon, either. Multiple opportunities to introduce him as a contemporary and co-conspirator of Mon Mothma's have come and gone without the creators having done so. Andor may yet surprise us, but I suspect that if he ever does reappear his Legends role as "co-founder of the Rebel Alliance" will not accompany him.

 

Saw Guerra has now become the Rebel co - founder with Bail and Mon Mothma. Only he is not a politician. He is the only one who fought the Empire since beginning.

 

Actually i could imagine Luthen to be a fake name, Garm uses to hide his identity from the empire.

Maybe he will be revealed to be Garm Bel Iblis at some point of the show...

 

I'm not sure why everyone thinks Luthen is a replacement for Garm Bel Iblis in the first place. Because they are both early Rebel leaders? The Galaxy is a big place.

 

He looks very similar to him imo.

 

Basing on the trailer, IMO, it seems possible that Luthen, after becoming a fugitive, will act as mediator between Mothma and Saw.

 

I was more hopeful that Luthen would be an alias of Airen Cracken.

And wow, that trailer looks so amazing.

 

Okay, I'm seeing a lot of people complaining about what looks like an AK-47 in Andor.... Do people not realize that every blaster in the OT is a barely modified WW2 gun?

 

Or that slugthrowers, aka real-world bullet-firing guns, exist canonically in Star Wars? We even see and hear them fired in The Phantom Menace.

 

True, but in the OT the props department did a decent job of cosmetic modifications to dress up the guns to look like blasters. That AK looked like a plain vanilla AK with nothing at all to disguise it. It's like they didn't even try to hide what it really was.

Heck, even an Englishman noticed, and everybody knows the English know nothing about guns!

 

Every depiction of Garm that I've seen has long hair and a mustache.

 

The last thing I would ever want to do is knock the amazing props department of the OT, which successfully made lemonade out of lemons more times than any of us are likely aware of and contributed greatly to the iconic look and feel of the OT. That having been said, efforts to "disguise" the real-world origins of many iconic OT weapons were often minimal at best. Our childhood imaginations did an awful lot of that heavy lifting. We are Star Wars fans and so we see the iconic weapons of the OT as "blasters," but anyone even a little bit familiar with, say, a Sterling SMG, is going to recognize it pretty quickly for what it is.

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Also, I don't pretend to be an expert in any of this and reserve the right to be dead wrong, but once you find a big enough image and look at it closely, the AK in the "Andor" trailer doesn't look quite as "unmodified" to me as many claim. The top of the rifle in particular, with that little round bit at the back, doesn't match any photo of an AK I was able to find in a few minutes of google searching.

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IMO, it is unmodified magazine of the AK in blaster that mostly attracts attention.

 

Hmm, dude walks into a rough, alien cantina carrying a sawn-off shotgun? He'd fit right in.

 

The AK series of firearms are probably the most recognizable and widespread families of firearms in the world. Wikipedia says that in 2004, 1/5 of all firearms in the world were Kalashnikovs in some form. Not only that, video games and film have only increased their visibility with contemporary audiences. Just its profile alone is instantly recognizable. I don't really have an eye for props and sets, but when I saw the prop in the trailer I immediately went, "hey, that's an AK!"

Now, I don't think the prop designers from the 1977 film deserve any kind of criticism, they were making do with what they had. The Death Star scenes were filmed in Britain, the Sterling is an immediately-available British gun, and they did a decent job at disguising it. I don't really think we get any good clear views of the E11 in ANH, though I could be wrong. Han's blaster is way more immediately recognizable as a kitbashed Mauser, in my opinion. Either way, both blasters have great greebling and inventive scopes and shrouds.

The designers for Andor, on the other hand, grabbed an instantly-recognizable Kalashnikov, took off the wooden furniture and the butt stock, and gave the character holding it a hero shot. I'm not saying that they made some cardinal sin of prop making, I just think it's an unusual decision.

 

That AK has a lot of modification, mainly that it doesn't even appear to have a stock at all. The muzzle sight is gone, and even the magazine looks fairly distinctive to me.

The DL-44 is basically a Mauser with a rifle scope and flash suppressor stuck on it. It's barely modified.

 

I’m not a gun person, but I easily recognized the gun as a lightly kitbashed Kalashnikov… and I think that’s the point. The AK-47 is heavily coded in western media as the weapon of insurgents and guerilla fighters. That the magazine is so distinct isn’t “Disney dropping the ball” (what a bizarre take). It’s the production design team playing with real-world signs, which is SO Star Wars.

 

The AK is so distinctive, it appears on national flags and coats of arms. Countries with the AK-47 on their flag - Russia Beyond (rbth.com)

 

Definitely! If anything, I’m surprised that it’s taken this long for a Star War to engage with this visual metonymy. Seems very intentional to me — not sure why others see creative bankruptcy in this choice.

 

It's definitely a deliberate choice to drive home the idea that whoever these people are resisting the Empire, they are the underdogs and insurgent revolutionaries.

 

Interestingly, in the comic book version of Slaves of the Republic, the Zygerrians also used space-AK-47s, along with roman looking armor. Fun combo.

They don't look similar at all to me. No long hair and mustache, for instance, and beyond that having a lankier build.

I am curious what features they have in common that make them look alike in your opinion.