PT Just how powerful was Anakin in Ep. 3?

Just want to hear your opinions on the subject. We all know he couldn't reach his full potential, which could've turned him into the most powerful force user in the galaxy. Was he #5 during the movie (after Kenobi, Yoda, Sidious and Mace)? How would he have fared off against Grieovus, Qui-Gon and Maul? Or Yoda and Mace for that matter as well. Also how much more potential do you guy's think he had?

 

He probably could have killed Qui-gon and Maul. Grievous would have run away.

 

Anakin vs obi wan in mustafar shows how powerful he is also, anakin said himself that he is more powerful then palpantine and he can overthrow him so he must be on the sidious, yoda and mace windu level before he even met his full potential.

 

If I go from the film, I'd say he's actually just slightly more powerful than Obi-Wan. When they do the double Force push they seem virtually equal, but he recovers more quickly, and by the end of the duel, Obi-Wan seems more tired out than Anakin. Anakin just got arrogant and jumped when Obi-Wan was in a good position to defend himself. I'm not sure what GL says about it. I thought he said that they were equal, but I believe the fight choreographer said that if Obi-Wan is a 9, then Anakin is an 8, which surprised me, and I assume he got that from GL, but GL changes his mind a lot.

I think he is a notch below Mace, and two notches below Yoda and Palpatine. He is clearly below Yoda and Palpatine. Yoda tells Obi-Wan, who is about Anakin's equal, that he is no match for Palpatine. Also, Palpatine says: "In time Darth Vader will become more powerful than either of us." So, just from that, you know that at least one of them is clearly above Anakin, and since Palpatine just barely defeats Yoda, it seems that Yoda and Palpatine are nearly equal.

Anakin would probably be able to take Mace on a good day, but Mace would clearly be the favorite in that match up. I think he would've wiped the floor with Darth Maul and Qui-Gon and virtually every member sitting on the Jedi counsel. I don't think Qui-Gon was supposed to be an incredible duelist, just a wise Jedi. (I think Ki-Adi-Mundi is supposed to be the 3rd most powerful Jedi on the counsel, so maybe he'd be equal with him.) Mother Talzin also seems to be very powerful, though I think she is most powerful on Dathomir, so I think she probably could've taken him there but not anywhere else.

At one point, GL said that if Anakin reached his potential, he would've been twice as powerful as Palpatine. I think GL was answering off the top of his head, so I don't think that's a precise measurement! I also don't know exactly what that means. You can't really say that Muhammad Ali was twice as good of a boxer as Mike Tyson. That just doesn't make any sense. Combat can't be measured like that. I think what GL inarticulately meant was that once Anakin reached his full potential he'd be in a class by himself, and no single Force-user would survive long against him.

 

I don't think Anakin was powerful much at all his arrogance and negativity hindered him greatly. Power is not always the same as strength and strengths are variable in type and degree.

 

You underestimate his power

 

i think at the end of episode 3, anakin was about as powerful as any jedi had ever been. it was his arrogance that did him in, not his lack of power.

 

I think he's the most powerful but his mind want able to grasp it all due to his age and the things that happened to him during his life.


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He is able to see the future and foresee Padme's death, kills the entire Separatist Council by himself and probably faced several Padawans, Knights and Masters during the attack on the Jedi Temple. In the RoTS novel (correct me if I'm wrong), Mace Windu states Anakin is the most powerful Jedi Knight ever. His power was so strong he managed to survive almost certain death on Mustafar. And, also as Darth Vader, his Force scream destroys an entire room.

Anakin's inability to control his emotions was his downfall. Still think, on the banks of Mustafar, Obi-Wan would've walked away - if Anakin didn't attempt to continue the duel.

 

Yeah that's what I meant he couldn't control his emotions and lacked good judgement on certain things.


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you do realise what happens to him right after he says that line right?

 

Yes he let's his emotions get the better of him and doesn't see that it's a foolish thing to do when he tries that big leap to obi won that doesn't take away Anakin's huge power


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with great power comes great responsibility (different franchise I know)
power means nothing if you can't control it.

A motor without electricity is just a metal box after all.

 

I agree.

Intelligence. Composure. Judgment. Discretion. All key elements in developing power in any field of endeavour and all elements which Anakin lacked.

 

I don't particulary agree.. or understand. Was it raw talent and strength which Anakin posessed then? You don't behead Dooku and go toe to toe with possibly prime Obi Wan without being powerful.

 

Oh yeah he was a big tough guy, able to kill little kids just like that. What a guy!

 

I don't think anyone would dispute the fact that he was powerful. But I often hear about how Anakin was incredibly powerful, it was just x, y, or z which held him back. To me, the x, y, and z's were factors in determining his overall power.

 

His potential = %200 of Sidious, I think this has been confirmed by Lucas.

However he was not ready to face likes of Sidious, Yoda or Mace in RotS. He was at the same level with Obi-Wan in RotS. He managed to beat Dooku, because he revealed Dooku's weakness via his djem-so mastery, not because he was much better than Obi-Wan.

Dooku was still more powerful than Anakin by RotS. (And TCW Maul as well.)

Which Maul ? TPM Maul, he can defeat, however Maul has grown stronger in TCW. Anakin is not beating TCW Maul, especially since Maul has no weakness to djem-so maneuvers unlike Dooku.

He could defeat Grievous and Qui-Gon.

 

Powerful enough to defeat Sidious in EP6.

 

Anakin's peak power production was over 9000 watts.

 

With a multimeter of course! Hooked up to his... well I'll leave that one to your imagination