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ST Justin Theroux (the Master Codebreaker)

Discussion in 'Sequel Trilogy' started by Darth-Seldon, Jan 14, 2018.

  1. Darth-Seldon

    Darth-Seldon Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Perhaps, there isn't enough to sustain an entire thread, but I was glad to see Justin Theroux in a Star Wars film (and after HBO's The Leftovers, good to see him wearing a white suit again). As a concept, they initially envisioned him as an insect warlord. At some point in the development, he was actually going to interact with Rose and Finn. I do like that he's right in front of them with, but they miss him.

    As Maz says: "he's a master codebreaker, an ace pilot, a poet with a blaster." And good at everything
    [​IMG]
     
  2. CEB

    CEB Force Ghost star 5

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    Thought this was the most throwaway, “too much” moment of the film.
     
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  3. 3sm1r

    3sm1r Force Ghost star 6

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    I find him too Earth-like. Look at him, he has little mustaches, an elegant dress and something like a parfum, if I recall well. He's too similar to a character of a normal movie with a normal casino.
     
  4. Cantina Regular

    Cantina Regular Jedi Knight star 3

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    I still stand by my theory that this white tuxedo’d bond clone is DJ’s spotter/double. People come to him with jobs and he passes the info to the real code breaker (DJ)
     
  5. Ender_and_Bean

    Ender_and_Bean Chosen One star 6

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    That would be a fun EU concept if they were like a couple of grifters and he was the image behind the operation and DJ was the real brains and they sort of went around the Star Wars universe as an odd ball duo ripping people off and looking for opportunities with Justin Thereaux’s character getting all the ladies and them arguing about cuts.
     
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  6. Ender_and_Bean

    Ender_and_Bean Chosen One star 6

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    Too late for me to edit and stack this in but I just love how much they talk the guy up and how fun it is to say the words “Master Codebreaker.” As a fan of war cryptography I’ll take any opportunity to work some of those concepts into Star Wars more and more but in this case it’s all very PG and light hearted and every time they refer to Master Codebreaker I smile in this movie.
     
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  7. zackm

    zackm Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Oooo...I like this theory.
     
  8. MrElculver2424

    MrElculver2424 Jedi Master star 4

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    I didn't like the character. Didn't feel like it belonged in a Star Wars movie. But, not a huge deal.
     
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  9. PymParticles

    PymParticles Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I want, like, eight movies about this guy. James Bond/Ocean's 11 in the Star Wars universe. He just instantly struck me as cool and interesting, the exact kind of character all the apocryphal books/comics/video games exist to tell stories about.
     
  10. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    His last name is so Star Wars
     
  11. Ender_and_Bean

    Ender_and_Bean Chosen One star 6

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    Kinda cool that General Merrick was his father.

    [​IMG]

    I kid.
     
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  12. Rodie

    Rodie Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Terrible pointless character and over-the-top portrayal. He was like a human Pepe Le Pew.
     
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  13. zackm

    zackm Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    This is a disproportionately strong response to a character with 6 seconds of screen time and a single line of dialog.
     
  14. Avnar

    Avnar Force Ghost star 4

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    Ridiculous character...and completely pointless.
     
  15. Ender_and_Bean

    Ender_and_Bean Chosen One star 6

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    I think that’s the point. It would be like if the good guys heard Boba Fett hung out at Jabba’s Palace and wanted to hire him but couldn’t and had to settle.
     
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  16. Rodie

    Rodie Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Pepe Le Pew is no Boba Fett ha ha.

    Maybe the seed of the idea is good, that there's this amazing guy they don't recruit and only see him for a second. But the execution of that idea is poor.
     
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  17. godisawesome

    godisawesome Skywalker Saga Undersheriff star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    To me, it a good actor in a cameo that honestly should have been excised, along with most of his subplot, in the second draft. He's totally redundant in the film, as DJ was clearly what Johnson wanted from Stage One for the character-type, and it's not like the story would have been negatively imalcted in anyway of Finn and Rose went to Canto to break DJ out of jail.

    Ultimately, the Master Codebreaker is one of the worst reasons this is the longest Star Wars film.
     
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  18. Bowen

    Bowen Force Ghost star 5

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    Haha I love it how I can have some weird Star Wars thought and there’s someone here who agrees :p For whatever bizarre reason I just love hearing Maz say, “Find the Master Codebreaker!” It’s a cool moment.
     
  19. Siphonophore

    Siphonophore Chosen One star 5

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    The Brothers Plum Bloom
     
  20. Mostly Handless

    Mostly Handless Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    A nice James Bond/generic 1950s hero parody.:)
     
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  21. Ender_and_Bean

    Ender_and_Bean Chosen One star 6

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    There’s something to it that makes it really fun to say and hear. It almost reminds me of the names in the Matrix/Through the Looking Glass. “Go and see the Oracle” or “The Mad Hatter.” You must locate “The Keymaker” or “The Merovingian” or “The architect” but beware of the “Jabberwockey.” In this case it’s like they never got to meet one of those and had to accept the help of someone with more flaws, out of desperation, but still nearly pulled it off.
     
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  22. G-FETT

    G-FETT Chosen One star 7

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    He reminded me of Clark Gable somehow. [face_thinking]
     
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  23. 3sm1r

    3sm1r Force Ghost star 6

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    The subversion in that case was more clear than ever: you're not getting the James Bond of the situation and must be satisfied with a dude who mumbles and has holes in his socks.
     
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  24. Ender_and_Bean

    Ender_and_Bean Chosen One star 6

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    If only codebreaking came as naturally to Finn or Rose as flying did Luke one of them could have turned DJ down and said, “You know I’m not such a bad code breaker myself! We don’t have to—“

    But then again... avoiding those nasty FO entanglements with some blip bloppety bloop knowhow is the real trick, isn’t it?” ;-)
     
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  25. Diego Lucas

    Diego Lucas Jedi Knight star 4

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    Could be better more epic that Lando would this guy.