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Lit Kazdan Paratus: an autistic Jedi?

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Ugohr Poof, Oct 13, 2016.

  1. Ugohr Poof

    Ugohr Poof Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Reading his biographical description gives me the impression that he is an autistic Aleena (assuming that autism is defined similarly enough in Aleena as it could in humans/Near-Humans to apply in both cases): that is, he used to be the Jedi Order's greatest cybernetics/droid expert, and his lack of social skills unsettled his Master, plus he used his knowledge of droids to pass the Trial of Skill using home-built battle droids (or perhaps more than just the Trial of Skill).

    But were people like Kazdan Paratus more like the norm or the exception among Aleenas?
     
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  2. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Chosen One star 10

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    Arguably Anakin had high functioning autism.
     
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  3. Yunzabit

    Yunzabit Jedi Master star 4

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    I think he was psychotic
     
  4. Havac

    Havac Former Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    But it was so autistically done.
     
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  5. Darth Invictus

    Darth Invictus Force Ghost star 5

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    I always liked the character-he did seem to mechanically inclined, and no I don't think was autistic just crazy cuz of the purge
     
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  6. Ugohr Poof

    Ugohr Poof Jedi Youngling star 1

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    But his pre-Order 66 backstory does suggest autistic traits.
     
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  7. Havoc123

    Havoc123 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Autism's a human thing, not sure if it can be diagnosed for fictional alien species....
     
  8. Pfluegermeister

    Pfluegermeister Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I'll say this as a person with high-functioning autism myself: I'm not sure I see the need for any character to be identified or defined as autistic in this universe in the first place. I don't feel like my life would in any way be improved or enriched by having one of my kind "represented" in Star Wars. Others may of course feel differently - I can't be the only person here on the boards with autism, after all - and they may feel that they are more valued, more recognized, more validated when they see characters in Star Wars that are like them. But I don't feel that way.

    And that's just basic philosophical objections talking. Then we have to factor in the basic assumption that medical technology in this universe (granted, if you can afford it) would probably have long since been able to correct the condition, particularly when we've seen species able to do things as amazing as manipulate human genes to speed up or slow down the human aging process. They can do that, but they can't do anything about autism?

    THEN, we also have to acknowledge Havoc123's point that autism spectrum disorder is a uniquely human attribute. How would we make the determination that a member of ANY non-human or non-near-human species has the condition in our eyes when it may simply be the behavioral norm for that species? Are some species even so neurologically constructed as to make autism spectrum disorder even a POSSIBILITY?
     
  9. SilentGuy66

    SilentGuy66 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Speaking as an autistic person I would like something resembling autism to be brought into star wars at some point, nothing major just a character like Paratus whom has a small role. After all it could be interesting seeing a Jedi who can't socialise with his fellow Jedi, therefore his masters are concerned for his lack of talent/interest in connecting with the living force etc. Ironically though it's this very lack of connection that saves him from Order 66 ;)

    Going back to Paratus I'm not sure if he is autistic however I gotta say when I first read his Bio in TFU I found myself really feeling for him spending so much time alone starting off with an idealistic dream of stopping the empire and rebuilding the order but eventually after years of lonliness with his machines he's nothing but a crazy old hermit talking to junk essentially wasting the life he was lucky to have saved after Order 66....I'm sorry it just gets to me that story :_|
     
  10. Daneira

    Daneira Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    if anything, Anakin had something like borderline personality disorder.


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  11. ObiWanKnowsMe

    ObiWanKnowsMe Jedi Master star 4

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    He showed autistic traits as a Jedi. I think he was. But after Order 66, he became sad and delusional. I felt bad for him when I played TFU. Poor guy. He allowed guilt and sorrow to consume him.
     
  12. Yunzabit

    Yunzabit Jedi Master star 4

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    Wow. Eerie. I responded to this article 2 years ago and completely forgot. I was about to like my own post lol. Now that its been some time- I revise my answer

    While he was driven crazy most likely, it is perfectly reasonable to assume he has autism, yet he is of a completely different species and his brain is likely VASTLY different from the human mind. I think its impossible to peg him with a human condition.

    Anakin wasn't autistic. He was intelligent for sure, but I don't believe he was like a super-genius like many fans believe. Yes he built a droid from scratch which would qualify him to be a genius on Earth, but droids were EXTREMELY common in the SW universe, and I feel building one might be the equivalent of putting together a TV on Earth.

    Anakin has histrionic personality disorder.
     
  13. Vorax

    Vorax Force Ghost star 5

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    Lothor Minor Maul was basically the canonized version of mad Raxus Prime Kazdan.

    I think he was more skilled in mechu-deru and more anti-social since I guess he preferred inventing things than sword fighting and any of the political intrigue or politics of the Jedi and Republic. The war probably gave him PTSD and apparently his clone army sustained high casuelities. We know he took the fall of the Jedi hard and became something typically we see in Star Wars canon with exiles like Maul and Luke lately...they tend to go mad and into Colonel Kurtz zone. Kazdan seemed a very capable fighter in the game and quite gifted in the Force, whether dark or light, still the Force.
     
  14. Darth Invictus

    Darth Invictus Force Ghost star 5

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    I think it was more guilt at his failures and the death of the masters-his replica showed that this probably affected him greatly.

    I imagine alone on the toxic waste dump that was Raxus Prime with only his replicas and memories for company he just went nuts.
     
  15. Fallen Jedi Master

    Fallen Jedi Master Jedi Master star 4

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    I don't really
     
  16. Darth Invictus

    Darth Invictus Force Ghost star 5

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    Paratus doesn't have autism-he's probably got PTSD and some degree of schizophrenic delusion if anything. The purge and his failures(or what he perceives to be his failures) along with the environment of Raxus Prime likely just drove him insane.