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Toronto Ki-Adi-Mundi is a master or not?

Discussion in 'Canada Discussion Boards' started by kerberos_kero, May 28, 2005.

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  1. kerberos_kero

    kerberos_kero Jedi Youngling star 1

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    here says that he is a master:
    http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/kiadimundi/


    but i reed this:
    All of the Jedi Council members are Jedi Masters except who?
    Jedi Knight Ki-Adi-Mundi (Source: Star Wars Insider's Guide Glossary)

    source www.theforce.net/jedicouncil/trivia/


    if he is not a master then anakin's statement is wrong isn't he?

     
  2. AmberStarbright

    AmberStarbright Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    Personally I would go with what the official site says, but that is me :)
     
  3. Aina

    Aina Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Ki-Adi-Mundi was not originally a master...in Episode I (i think...maybe it was II) he was just a Jedi Knight...but in Episode III he was probably a master by then, so the databank is probably telling you from the prospective of episode III.

    So Anakin's statement is wrong.....I never understood why he was screeming about that :S
     
  4. Woofer

    Woofer Jedi Padawan star 4

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    When it came to the Jedi Council, Anakin was wrong about a great many things.
     
  5. kerberos_kero

    kerberos_kero Jedi Youngling star 1

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    it was anakin's ignorance or george's mistake?
     
  6. JediCourier

    JediCourier Jedi Master star 4

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    It sounds like George's mistake, and it's something I was complaining about in the lobby after the movie ;) It's not entirely EU that said he was a Knight in Ep I and II, his action figure, quiz books, it was a pretty well-documented fact that he was the only non-Master.

     
  7. Mert_Skywalker

    Mert_Skywalker Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Guess what though? If it's not spoken dialogue in a film, or something seen in the film, then it's not cannon. And anything mentioned in the films overwrites anything in the EU.

    Therefore, Ki-Adi-Mundi was a master when he was on the council, including Episode's I and II.

    Oh, and Boba Fett's dead.
     
  8. JediCourier

    JediCourier Jedi Master star 4

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    Of course Boba's dead...that **** is from the books

    But what's written on action figures, on starwars.com, on all his character bios, etc...is a little more definitive than what appeared in The Crystal Star.

    The Episode I scrapbook (Which was basically just character bios) also stated it as a major factor
    [image=http://www.starwars.com/episode-iii/release/publishing/img/20041124_10_bg.jpg]

    His action figure and 12" doll both read A Jedi Knight, Ki-Adi-Mundi is the only member of the Jedi Council who is not a Jedi Master, which indicates the high value placed upon his skills and wisdom by the other Council members. A Cerean from the planet Cerea, he has the unique ability to control the thoughts, emotions and other brain waves of creatures. on the back of the box

    starwars.com databank *still* reads In another exception to the traditions of the Jedi, Ki-Adi-Mundi was the sole Jedi Knight serving on the Council during the start of his tenure, sitting amongst an assemblage of Jedi Masters.

    etc, etc
     
  9. DMZBADGER

    DMZBADGER Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Boba Fett IS NOT DEAD!

    I repeat...Boba Fett IS NOT DEAD.

    Wounded, perhaps.
    Winded, for sure.
    Dead, NOT ACCEPTABLE
     
  10. Lelila

    Lelila Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I have a "Who's Who" Episode I book that says that Ki-Adi isn't a master. That concurs with everything I've heard. I think what is implied on the Official Site is that Ki-Adi was raised to Master somewhere in the prequels. I'm just thinking that because in the entry, first it talks about "Ki-Adi-Mundi" and then later switches to "Jedi Master Ki-Adi-Mundi."
     
  11. JediCourier

    JediCourier Jedi Master star 4

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    He would've been elevated to the rank of Master some time between TPM and ROTS...but that still means Anakin doesn't know the fundamentals of who is on the Jedi Council...nor does Obi-Wan correct him or appear to be taken aback at hearing "It's never been done in the history of the Jedi"

     
  12. Lelila

    Lelila Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Yup, this is true. It's still a continuity error.
     
  13. grey_starr

    grey_starr Jedi Master star 4

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    doesn't matter... He's dead... Hehehehehe... must be master to sit on council he must... else he be like Ani and ASSIGNED to the council...
     
  14. Mert_Skywalker

    Mert_Skywalker Jedi Padawan star 4

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    It's a continuity error between Lucas and marketing people, not Lucas himself.
     
  15. DARTH2-D2

    DARTH2-D2 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Lucas doesnt make mistakes he makes alterations to things he sees as needed changing. wants a cool line but it contradicts what he has put out before no problem, that old line or history never happened, its the way according to George. All thank the maker, in starwars we trust and all that
     
  16. TC-5986

    TC-5986 Jedi Youngling

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    hey remember when he died like a punk? that was pretty cool :)
     
  17. grey_starr

    grey_starr Jedi Master star 4

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    yeah... Die Punk...... then there was that green chick... yeah... that was fun...
     
  18. Rabellaka

    Rabellaka Jedi Master star 4

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    you guys scare me sometimes....


    I think Anikan's problem is that Mace Windu made it very obvious that they didn't want him on the council, they were only allowing it to appease Palpatine. He just doens't know where to focus his anger. oh, wait! Anger? Doesn't that lead to the path of the Dark side?
     
  19. SandwichBoy

    SandwichBoy Jedi Youngling star 1

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    What it really boils down to is that Lucas has always flat out ignored anything to do with the EU if he doesn't want things to go that way. There actually was a fully drawn up backstory to Boba Fett in the books, and that was completely thrown out in favour of him being a clone. Why? Because while Lucas has final approval of what goes into the books, he doesn't actually care about what happens in them as they aren't part of "his" story. He's flat out said that Boba Fett died at the sarlacc. Period. So whatever was in all those books, even the program guide for TPM, mean jack. If George wants Anakin to be the first plain old Jedi to be appointed to the council, then that's how it is in the movie.

    Of course, I'm still interested in how he's going to explain the whole Leia remembering her real mother thing...my guess, ANOTHER SPECIAL EDITION!!
     
  20. JediCourier

    JediCourier Jedi Master star 4

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    a) I agree, Mace treated Anakin like crap - I would've been tempted to kill him myself

    2) Boba Fett *did* die :p

    iii) I can't think of any reason why they wouldn't just have Leia be born first, give her a few extra seconds with her mother, maybe have Padme hold her while she's pushing Luke out - then die. It would've been so simple to toss a quick-fix in there, but he chose not to, to make it even more nonsensical
     
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