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Killik Sith Lord--Continuity mess!

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Senator_Cilghal, Oct 27, 2005.

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  1. Senator_Cilghal

    Senator_Cilghal Jedi Master star 5

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    a Killik Sith Lord?

    acc. to the Gamer "Hunt for the Tessent" article, there was a Killik Sith Lord banished from Alsakan to Sarafur.

    OK, the Killiks abandoned Alskan either before or when humans came to the planet, which is pre-Republic; the banishment is pre-Republic. pre-25,000 BBY. probably pre-27,500 BBY if we assume the Killiks abandoned Alsakan the same time they abandoned Alderaan.

    So how was the Killik King of Sarafur a Sith Lord, since the Sith weren't established until 6,900 BBY?
     
  2. Charlii

    Charlii Jedi Youngling star 3

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    So, we have a Sith King, with an imposible timeline placment...

    He must be King Adas!

    Other than that, I'm afraid I've got no ideas.



    /Charlii
     
  3. Thrawn McEwok

    Thrawn McEwok Co-Author: Essential Guide to Warfare star 6 VIP

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    Unreliable narration? :p

    - The Imperial Ewok
     
  4. Senator_Cilghal

    Senator_Cilghal Jedi Master star 5

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    you got that right. Alsakan is repeatedly called Alasaka or even Alderaan thruought the article. It must be Alsakan though, not Alderaan, since the story is set post-Endor and the Tessent is returned to Alsakan (Alderaan would be blown up).
     
  5. Master_Keralys

    Master_Keralys VIP star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Easy solution:

    Throw the source out!

    *capers madly*

    Umm, I guess we ignore the references that don't make sense - that's the basic running policy on things lately.

    Even more interesting, we know that there couldn't have been a Sith Lord that early - the Sith Lords only came into existence 7000 BBY we now know, thanks to the NEC.

    - Keralys
     
  6. Leto II

    Leto II Jedi Padawan star 6

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    Easy-peasy: he's one of the "True Sith." (Who keep popping up on this board over and over again this past week.)

    Or else one of their associates, somehow bearing their name, but this whole mess still conflicts mightily with the Celestials' intervention, c. 30,000 BBY.










    I vote for Adas. [face_whistling]
     
  7. TalonCard

    TalonCard •Author: Slave Pits of Lorrd •TFN EU Staff star 5 VIP

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    I'm surprised it took everyone this long to notice. ;) It's actually not so much a "continuity mess" as it is a prime oppertunity for an interesting story. Most of the Killiks vanished before the Republic was founded, but we already know that they didn't die out; they just left for the Unknown Regions. It's possible that one was banished from the nest and fell in with the Sith. It's been known to happen with the Chiss at the Sith Academy on Thule and Dooku's servant Sev'Rance Tann, why not the Killiks?

    TC
     
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  8. Quinnocent-Till-Sith

    Quinnocent-Till-Sith Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Or like everything else the Killiks created the Sith.
     
  9. Charlemagne19

    Charlemagne19 Chosen One star 8

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    Time Travel!
     
  10. Leto II

    Leto II Jedi Padawan star 6

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    And Tarfang.




    I had similar thoughts, though -- the Killik Sith was simply a remnant of the long-vanished Alsakan nest, not large enough to be noticed by the Celestials...not that they'd probably *want* a Killik Sith, for that matter.
     
  11. CeiranHarmony

    CeiranHarmony Force Ghost star 5

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    you seem to forget, the killiks can´t expel one kilik. they are hiveminded. and every hive acts on his own before they were unified by the dark nest.

    so, a whole nest would have been expelled, and 1 nest would have been sith. not just 1 killik.

    but, what if they didn´t mean a kilik as sith, but rather a sithlord as kilikjoiner becoming raynar like joiner king? hehe it all happens again now. so why not back then?
     
  12. CeiranHarmony

    CeiranHarmony Force Ghost star 5

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    also don´t forget, sith doesn´t always mean the darths, but also the species practicing dark side magic! or sith means just a certain believe/religion. lords are the people ruling the sith species, so before the dark jedi came, sith lords might have existed but much less powerful and as members of the dark side magic sects within the sith species!
     
  13. Ghost

    Ghost Chosen One star 8

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    Yuuzhan'tar, and Zanoma Sekot, was/is hiveminded. And the first expelled the Vong from the Force after they broke away from the hivemind.


     
  14. Esplin9466

    Esplin9466 Jedi Master star 4

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    w00t! :cool: [face_dancing] [:D] =D= :D [face_flag]
     
  15. Rohniss

    Rohniss Jedi Padawan star 4

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    wheres Ghenghis when you need him, doesnt he like to shoehorn stuff like this into continuity ?

    Anyways this sn00b is going to ignore it until theres some kind of better fix.. maybe something to do with 1. the infamous Killik faulty memory. 2. not bieng a real Sith but retconned as one, actually bieng one of Xendor's infamous minions.
     
  16. Havac

    Havac Former Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Killik Sith Lord = Killik Sith Nest = Lamest Sith Lord ever. I am very disappointed.
     
  17. TalonCard

    TalonCard •Author: Slave Pits of Lorrd •TFN EU Staff star 5 VIP

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    >you seem to forget, the killiks can´t expel one kilik. they are hiveminded. and every hive acts on his own before they were unified by the dark nest.<

    COPL, IIRC, mentions a Verpine who was apparently severed from her species hive "mind". Something similar could have happened here...

    TC
     
  18. jaya02

    jaya02 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I though the Sith were establish way before then. Haven't the Sith been around as long as the Jedi, which have been around 25,000 years?
     
  19. Rogue_Follower

    Rogue_Follower Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    The New Essential Chronology made them (the faction, not the race) only ~ 7000 years old.
     
  20. jaya02

    jaya02 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Ah. Well, I haven't read the Guide yet, but doesn't the race still count as being Sith?
     
  21. Rogue_Follower

    Rogue_Follower Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Yes. But they weren't ruled by evil Darksiders, so they weren't really the Sith we think about.

    A kinder, gentler Sith, if you will. ;)
     
  22. CeiranHarmony

    CeiranHarmony Force Ghost star 5

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    they were dark side sect before they were ruled by dark jedi lords. not very kind
     
  23. jaya02

    jaya02 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    A kindler, gentler Sith? No, I don't believe that. However, I'm willing to accept CH's explanation until I read the NEGTC myself. :)

    So, then, going by the rule of 7, 000 years ago, this Killik Dark-sider wouldn't be considered a Sith?
     
  24. Rogue_Follower

    Rogue_Follower Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Hence the ;) . ;)

    They still weren't all peaches and cream, but they didn't go about attacking the galaxy like they did later.
     
  25. Senator_Cilghal

    Senator_Cilghal Jedi Master star 5

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    actually the Sith are established 6900 BBY

    The Hundred year darkness DOES take 100 years (7000-6900), and only after the Battle of COrbos 6900 BBY is the Sith Empire established.

    the text says though that he was banished from Alsakan before the planet was inhabited by humans, so definitely this occurred pre-25000 BBY, NOT later

    Talon: It did NOT take me this long to notice it. I noticed it before, but never really sparked much interest in it til now!
     
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