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Kreia...Love her or hate her....

Discussion in 'EU Community' started by MasterSkywalker73, Sep 8, 2005.

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MasterSkywalker73 Jedi Youngling

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Jedi Master Kreia / Darth Traya...good or bad, ya gotta love her...i know i do. So, just wondering how many out there are fans of Kreia and who are the Kreia-haters? Any favorite moments or dialogue in the game that stand out in your mind? Share, share, share.

MasterSkywalker73, Sep 8, 2005

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Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC Staff Member Manager

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*ahem*

You won't find anyone on these boards that loves Kreia more. In a non-sexual way. of course.

Fave quotes

"If you truly wish to understand, you must have the contrast, not blind adherance to a single ideal"

"I find the answers come in their own time, not ours"

"I am but a mirror, reflecting everything you cannot yet see"

"Jedi and Sith? Are these the only choices? Of course they are, for they allow you to measure the light and the dark"

"He brings truth, and you condemn it? As you judged him, I now judge you."

The first and foremost quote is the most true comment I have ever read in SW Lit, games, comics and everything.

And my favourite moment is when the Light side way, when she suddenly goes and kills three Masters in about three seconds....

*Cues rendition of eyes popping out head and moment of "I have to stop her? You've gotta be kidding!" *

Sinrebirth , Sep 8, 2005

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MasterSkywalker73 Jedi Youngling

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Awesome! I love her...but definitely NOT that way also.

MasterSkywalker73, Sep 8, 2005

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Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC Staff Member Manager

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The saddest thing is that she makes too much sense, and then is drafted as Darth Traya to try and kill them all.

I understood her, so I couldn't hate her like Sion or even Nihilus.

She's a much more interesting version of Sidious, in my opinion. Sidious is driven by unknown forces, Kreia by heartbreak and despair and the feeling that she has no control over her life - we can relate to the lady, somewhat

Sinrebirth , Sep 8, 2005

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Only-One Cannoli Ex-Mod VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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I don't like her. And no, I don't feel like justifying my opinion.

Only-One Cannoli, Sep 8, 2005

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JacenKatarnC3PX Jedi Padawan

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She's okay. But I never take her on mission's with me unless I have to. I prefer Atton and Mira.

JacenKatarnC3PX, Sep 8, 2005

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MasterSkywalker73 Jedi Youngling

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I thought it was kind of disappointing also that she get's killed off in the end. I would have loved to see her make an appearance if KOTOR 3 ever see's the light of day.

I came across a really neat little piece of fan-fiction someone had put together and thought it was great to read something about her during her days as a jedi up until she was cast out of the jedi order and went in search of Revan.

Anyone know of a site where I can get wav files of Kreia's dialog. I dont' have pc version (xbox only).

MasterSkywalker73, Sep 8, 2005

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JacenKatarnC3PX Jedi Padawan

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First of all, Kreia did not go seek Revan. Revan was her apprentice while she was in the Jedi Order. Then Revan came back to her. Then she was exiled because of her teachings.

JacenKatarnC3PX, Sep 8, 2005

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JacenK : I brought her along for her odd wisdom, usually, not so much for her abilities. She was a reserve, over anything.

And Gunray, thats just disappointing.

She did die oddly, I'll give you that, but she did tell us alot about the future.

I believe I read the same one, 73.

But I haven't found any files about Kriea, per se.

EDIT And it was fanfic, JacenK.

Sinrebirth , Sep 8, 2005

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MasterSkywalker73 Jedi Youngling

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JacenKatarnC3PX said:

First of all, Kreia did not go seek Revan. Revan was her apprentice while she was in the Jedi Order. Then Revan came back to her. Then she was exiled because of her teachings.
Click to expand...

As I said, it was FAN FIC.

MasterSkywalker73, Sep 8, 2005

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Mortimer_Nerdly Jedi Grand Master

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I thought Kreia/Traya was an excellent, well thought out character. As a villian, I preferred her over Malak simply because she was very intellectual, cunning, and very Sidious-like.

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Mortimer_Nerdly, Sep 8, 2005

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Darth_DSpice Jedi Knight

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I think Kreia/Traya's philosophies were unique...."I hate the Force...."

Darth_DSpice, Sep 8, 2005

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Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC Staff Member Manager

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I liked her concept of Power.

"If you truly wish to help them, let them struggle, as by helping them you gain strength for yourself, and take it from the weak"

My translation - Helping people makes you powerful.

Malak felt 2D to me, actually. Sion had more depth.

Sinrebirth , Sep 8, 2005

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Darth_DSpice Jedi Knight

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I guess that would depend on your defintion of helping people....

Darth_DSpice, Sep 8, 2005

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rogue_wookiee Jedi Youngling

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She was more wise than Master Yoda. Probably because she was such a cynic. And she really makes you think.

But I hated her attitude.

rogue_wookiee, Sep 8, 2005

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Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC Staff Member Manager

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A person who makes us think and question ourselves while playing a game. A small feat, for some programmers.

What attitude? Condescending? Secretive?

Or, some people dare to murmur, Mad?

Sinrebirth , Sep 8, 2005

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rogue_wookiee Jedi Youngling

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Female dog attitude actually.

rogue_wookiee, Sep 8, 2005

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Darth_wanderguard Game Host VIP - Game Host

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Personally, I hate her.

Darth_wanderguard, Sep 8, 2005

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alpha_red Jedi Youngling

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I had Kreia's love child. We named it Jesus.

alpha_red, Sep 8, 2005

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rebel_scum1 Jedi Youngling

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KOTOR 2 Spoilers (duh).....

I think Kreia was a really interesting character, but what's up with the ending, where she's trying to destroy the Force or something? (Or am I just delusional, and completely misunderstanding the climax of the game?)
And I really don't like the feeling that no matter how you play the game, the whole game is just a big excuse for Kreia to pwn you.

rebel_scum1, Sep 8, 2005

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Genghis12 Manager Emeritus VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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I'm a Kreia-hater. She was only slightly more delusional than Vergere - if such a thing was even possible.

Genghis12, Sep 8, 2005

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GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque Staff Member Administrator

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Hate. She's fooled herself into thinking that because something makes sense to her, it ought to be reality.

GrandAdmiralJello , Sep 8, 2005

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Genghis12 Manager Emeritus VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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I don't think even the programmers were able to make sense of her.

I think they were all sitting around before one particular code build milestone and they didn't have enough content ready, so they all said "**** it," got tanked up and *WHAM* we ended up with Kreia's dialogue.

Genghis12, Sep 8, 2005

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GrandAdmiralJello Comms Admin ❉ Moderator Communitatis Litterarumque Staff Member Administrator

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I heard they started asking questions to an eight ball, and that's what they used for her answers to display her supposed 'wisdom'.

GrandAdmiralJello , Sep 8, 2005

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jediknightruthie Jedi Grand Master

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She is a pretty interesting charater and I liked taking her on missions with me because she gives the party extra experience.

jediknightruthie, Sep 8, 2005

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