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Labyrinth of Evil/ Dark Lord are absolutly Canon

Discussion in 'Literature' started by dakinJmacwalker, Nov 15, 2005.

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  1. dakinJmacwalker

    dakinJmacwalker Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I think that Geore Lucas has gone out of his was in the past during his promotion of Revenge while going into theaters to make it a point to say that these books though EU would actually be fact in his his Universe as something to lead right into and something immediately after. I can't remember exactly where and when it was said but I know for sure he said it was going to be 100% canon in the story line of Episode III it was gonna be kind of Revenge's back story.

    Before you go locking this I just wanted to start something for those of us who are choosing to stay spoiler free for Dark Lord and I was really curious on some other peoples input.

    WE know they're canon; they're released by LFL. :)
     
  2. SSIntimidator

    SSIntimidator Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I'm reading LOE right now, it's pretty good. I'm confused though. I thought LOE brought us right up to the opening of ROTS, but it says Clone Wars Vol 2 does that. I didn't see CW2 so, which is it?
     
  3. dakinJmacwalker

    dakinJmacwalker Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I go with LOE, because Lucas by word of mouth said it was canon by I liked the Clone Wars intro too.
     
  4. Zebra3

    Zebra3 Jedi Master star 5

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    That would be LOE because it ends just as the Coruscant space battle is begining.
     
  5. Master_Keralys

    Master_Keralys VIP star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Well, er... both do. And they do so differently... it's a mess, a nasty big ugly mess, though the NEC does a decent job of cleaning up after it. Basically, they tell different versions of similar events, indicating how things got to the point they were at the beginning of Revenge of the Sith.

    Oh, and before Kud can say it:

    Cannon go boom.

    You guys are all meaning canon.

    - Keralys
     
  6. Zebra3

    Zebra3 Jedi Master star 5

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    I didn't see the cannon because I was mesmerized by the Dark Lork :p
     
  7. dakinJmacwalker

    dakinJmacwalker Jedi Youngling star 1

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    opps on the spelling :oops:
     
  8. MarcusP2

    MarcusP2 Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    You mean oops. :p
     
  9. Ive_Got_Two_Legs

    Ive_Got_Two_Legs Jedi Youngling star 4

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    I'm pretty sure all books are absolutely canon.
     
  10. Bodknocks_

    Bodknocks_ Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Yes, they are. From a certain point of view.
     
  11. Zebra3

    Zebra3 Jedi Master star 5

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    [face_laugh]
     
  12. That_Wascally_Droid

    That_Wascally_Droid Jedi Knight star 6

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    I go with the cartoon. Much more accessible to a larger audience plus, I feel it captures the movies better.
     
  13. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 7 VIP

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    Books...canon? By jove, I think he's on to something!


    [face_laugh] :_| =D=
     
  14. SSIntimidator

    SSIntimidator Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Thanks for clearing it up. Guess I'll just have to finish this book by the time the DVD comes out and see how they mesh up.
     
  15. StarkRhavyn

    StarkRhavyn Jedi Youngling star 3

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    I like LOE better than the cartoon, BUT the cartoon explains Greivous' coughing better than the other explanation I've heard which was that his cyborg body is flawed.
    Also the space battle scene in the cartoon is absolutely breath taking.
    But LOE's involvement of almost all past Clone Wars material PLUS tying up of the loose ends of AOTC is greatly appreciated.
     
  16. Leto II

    Leto II Jedi Padawan star 6

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    There was a thread around here which broke down the storytelling differences between Labyrinth and the animated series, but can't seem to find it at the moment.

    Regardless, in terms of the finer beats, Luceno's novel tends to draw more water with continuity-heads around here (and in general) than the latter Tartakovsky 'toons; the depictions and characterizations are more finely chiselled, and the scenes can unfold with the luxury of not having to meet a predetermined running-time.

    A few moments -- the Grievous "cough" scene, Skywalker's pre-Nelvaan mud-pit-world slog -- are unique to the animateds, but when it comes to the rest, go with the novel and the novel alone.
     
  17. peregrine

    peregrine Jedi Master star 4

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    I prefer the LOE version myself...
     
  18. Queengodess

    Queengodess Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I really like LOE better. For one, Anakin doesn't walk around with large bushes of hair under his arms...
     
  19. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 7 VIP

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    Nonsense. Nelvaan happened after Praesitlyn. The only Coruscant part that has to be tossed is Grievous' arrival at the office. There's room for everything else to happen. Even the hallway/elevator stuff could probably be worked in.
     
  20. Inara

    Inara Jedi Master star 4

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    I guess the Ani fangirls didn't see that one or there would have been a large outcry.
     
  21. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    These books are not absolute canon (G-canon) but are C-canon works, with LOE based upon backstory provided by Lucas. This was used by Luceno to create the LOE outline, which was then passed on to the cartoon makers. Since they wer eproduced at the same time, some small variations occur with overlapping events but generally they tell different events happening during the same time period. They jump back and forth.
     
  22. Leto II

    Leto II Jedi Padawan star 6

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    Not saying there's no room to wiggle on the Nelvaan issue, but between the animateds' depiction of that incident, plus what Reversal of Fortune reveals about the goings-on at Coruscant during that last pre-film day, the novel and the webstrip have those bases covered better in sub rosa terms than the animateds.

    The entire inter-animated/novel scene breakdown was in that thread I failed to link to; it's still the office window-scene that throws the biggest flack into the mix.
     
  23. Amon_Amarth

    Amon_Amarth Force Ghost star 6

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    I never understood which is more cannon - LOE or last few chapters of Clone Wars?
     
  24. Excellence

    Excellence Jedi Knight star 7

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    I start getting bemused when people say George's own word of mouth cited something, as though the heavens rumbled, light shone forth, the holy edict issued forth. [face_laugh]
     
  25. rogue_wookiee

    rogue_wookiee Jedi Youngling star 6

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    A side note. Reversal of Fortune backs up the cartoon version and doesn't work with the book. Personally I just declared anything that contradicted LoE in the cartoon or RoF infinities to save myself a huge headache.
     
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