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Amph Ladies and Gentlemen: I Give You The Throwaway Low Budget Urban Alien Invasion Movie

Discussion in 'Archive: The Amphitheatre' started by Jabbadabbado, Dec 28, 2011.

  1. Jabbadabbado

    Jabbadabbado Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    We have a clear subgenre now, launched by Cloverfield in 2008, the reality show, shaky cam, low budget, urban assault alien invasion film.

    The advantages: spend less than $50 million to make it, often half that or less
    how to know you've bought tickets to see one: shaky cam, takes place in a big city, a signature special effect/creature, "found footage", you've never heard of anyone in the cast
    the disadvantages: typically mauled by critics
    Why you keep seeing this movie over and over: - they make money!

    Cloverfield


    - RT score: 77% - the only well-reviewed one of the bunch
    - budget: $25 million
    - ww box office: $170 million (nearly 7x budget)

    Skyline

    - RT score: 16%
    - budget: $10 million
    - ww box office: $60 million (6x budget)

    Battle: Los Angeles

    - RT score: 35%
    - budget: $70 million
    - ww box office: $211 million (3x budget)

    The Darkest Hour

    - RT score: 16%
    - budget: $30 million
    - ww box office: $5 million...

    Looks like The Darkest Hour could be the first moneyloser of the subgenre. I don't think one $30 million loser (could still make back its investment on rentals) is enough to kill it off, but we can hope. The lessons studios will likely take away from The Darkest Hour is: it must be set in an American city!
     
  2. Mastadge

    Mastadge Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I haven't seen The Darkest Hour yet, but I thought both Cloverfield and Skyline were terrible. Battle: Los Angelas surprised me by being not only watchable but very enjoyable, but it comes across as more of a recruitment campaign for the armed forces than as a thoughtful science fiction flick.

    Also, as for "never heard of anyone in the cast," -- I've heard of at least a handful of the actors in Battle: LA, the protagonist from Skyline, one of the women from Cloverfield and the top 3 billed in The Darkest Hour. Maybe that says more about me than about these movies, though.

    Another film that fits at least most of your criteria is Attack the Block, which is good fun.
     
  3. The_Four_Dot_Elipsis

    The_Four_Dot_Elipsis Force Ghost star 5

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    I like Cloverfield quite a bit. Everyone seems to complain about how unlikable the characters are... so did they miss the part where horrible horrible terror is visited upon them?

    Even Barry Levinson is making one of these, as it turns out. Don't know when it'll see the light of day, but it's produced by the Skyline muppets.
     
  4. DarthBoba

    DarthBoba Manager Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I thought Battle: Los Angeles was pretty silly to the point of being bad. It's a clumsy attempt at allegory for Iraq, and as I am in the Army, the goofy armed services stereotypes (Marines: Almost all Aryan males, Army soldiers: black males, etc) irritated me deeply.

    I'm not sure Cloverfield counts as an alien movie-was it ever specified that Clover was actually an alien?
     
  5. CloneUncleOwen

    CloneUncleOwen Jedi Master star 4

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    Interesting, isn't it? Filmmakers have spent the last 70 years over-reporting their production overhead, marketing and distribution
    costs so they avoid paying anyone naive enough to take monkey points; now some are under-reporting their costs, at least publicly,
    to exploit the "low budget" phenomenon.

     
  6. Nevermind

    Nevermind Jedi Knight star 6

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    This is not a new phenomenon; horror flicks are based on the same idea. They commonly make $30,000,000.00 in N. America--two weeks on and out--so all you need to do is hire unknowns, keep the costs down, and you'll make money.
     
  7. Jabbadabbado

    Jabbadabbado Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I'm not sure Cloverfield counts as an alien movie-was it ever specified that Clover was actually an alien?

    Yes, there's a silly postcript scene of the main couple enjoying a day together before the event, you can see an object falling into the ocean - presumably the meteor or craft that brought the Cloverfield monster.
     
  8. DarthBoba

    DarthBoba Manager Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Apparently that's a Japanese satellite, and JJ Abrams has denied that it's an alien:

    Cloverfield wikia


    I'd still group it in with these other films, though; the similarities are obvious.
     
  9. JohnWesleyDowney

    JohnWesleyDowney Jedi Master star 5

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    I just put the Darkest Hour trailer up in the Trailer Park, which is the first time I'd seen it.
    I was not impressed. "Throwaway" is the correct word.
     
  10. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Yeah, the hidden "did you see it" crash into the ocean bit for Cloverfield kinda works both ways- if you only watch the movie, you might incorrectly assume it was an alien, but the whole viral campaign surrounding the movie says it was a satellite, and it's the satellite that disturbs the monster.

    Anyways, Cloverfield was a fun ride- but more of an amusement park ride than an alien invasion film, IMO, but not in a bad way- it actually provided a unique experience in theaters I've never seen achieved before or since.

    Battle LA I thought was an instant classic action film, shy the studio-mandated prologue. Once it starts "for real" it's amazing how non-stop it is- you'd think this had the budget of a Michael Bay film given what it achieves, yet it only has a fourth of the budget.

    And that non-stop action goes on for an amazing length of time, not stopping until they reach that FOB- and even though THAT PAUSE mainly wraps up prologue subplots, it does allow Eckart to give a great, brief, performance. And then it kicks back up and into the action.

    But that prologue is filled with cliches that distract, but it's easy enough to look past it.

    I have yet to see Attack the Block, but that had great word of mouth. I had wanted to see The Darkest Hour (the light bulb thing seemed like a clever concept) but the reviews haven't been very good at all so I'll probably wait for video.

    Skyline was an absolutely piece of **** that was only made to cash in on Battle LA in advance of that film's release. It was filled with unoriginal designs (from the ID4 aliens to the Matrix ships) and just stupid, stupid moments.

    It has one great scene in the middle (the drones acting as shields to the bomber) and then ends on what might have been a slightly ballsy downer of an ending... only to then become something so stupid I couldn't believe what I was seeing.

    Had that ending happened about 1/3rd through the movie and become the basis/premise of the film, I *might* have been able to buy it- but as a tacked-on ending montage? W. T. F. ?!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!!??!?!?!?

    Skyline made me actively angry at how bad it was- which is not a reaction I've had before (other terrible films like Jeepers Creepers 1 made me squirm at how stupid they got, but it was a stupid I could understand the existence of in the film...Skyline's stupidity is completely unjustifiable).
     
  11. Jabbadabbado

    Jabbadabbado Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Has anyone seen the Battleship trailer? That definitely looks like a variation on the Cloverfield theme.

    Today also seems like a good day to give a shout out to the found footage + [insert genre] genre

    Blair Witch and Paranormal Activities gave us the paradigmatic found footage + horror movie.

    Cloverfield gave us the found footage + monster movie.

    Now we have the found footage + superhero movie in Chronicle. It's getting pretty good reviews too!!! This is something I'd consider going to see in the theater. Haven't been to the movies since Girl With the Dragon Tattoo/

    We're missing found footage + end of the world disaster movie and found footage + high school romantic comedy, and found footage + teen angst vampire movie.

    Is one of those alien invasion flicks a + found footage? I can't remember.
     
  12. Mastadge

    Mastadge Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Apollo 18 might fit the bill -- haven't seen it yet, though.
     
  13. DarthBoba

    DarthBoba Manager Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Apparently it's also pretty terrible. :p
     
  14. SithLordDarthRichie

    SithLordDarthRichie CR Emeritus: London star 9

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    Apollo 18 was OK, better than Darkest Hour anyway. It was different, although not a great deal happened.
     
  15. severian28

    severian28 Jedi Master star 5

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    Yes sir. Not new by a long shot. Even when Corman gave it a name it was a 30 year old practice. The urban alien theme and the shaky cam did provide some freshness to the horror and sci-fi set but they arent exactly new either. Cloverfeld was well done but maybe we should acknowledge District 9 for being the modern classic that it is, with respect to this topic.
     
  16. Nevermind

    Nevermind Jedi Knight star 6

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    Of course. There are good versions.
     
  17. Jabbadabbado

    Jabbadabbado Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    District 9 is a classic of a different subgenre, one I'd group more with the Men In Black series and Alien Nation about the intersection of earth and ET cultures, not necessarily in the context of eradicating or enslaving the human race.
     
  18. Nevermind

    Nevermind Jedi Knight star 6

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    Can you give us a list of the subgenres, then?