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Lit Legacy of the Force: The true Meaning of the Tassels most ridiculed prophecy

Discussion in 'Literature' started by ColeFardreamer, Apr 19, 2022.

  1. ColeFardreamer

    ColeFardreamer Force Ghost star 5

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    He will crawl through his cloak

    Yeah we all laughed at it and mocked Darth Caedus aka Jacen Solo for that part of the prophecy and sought to find it coming true in various instances throughout his dark career like when Luke pinned him via the Force.

    But I think this line features some neglected hidden message actually that is quite sublime (or I am going crazy! Yeah probably the latter).

    What if the cloak is not Jacen Solo's dark cape but actually refers to the "Cloak of the Sith" region in the galaxy. The Region may not have featured at all in the LotF story of Jacen Solo's Darth Caedus, but it has ties to it regardless. This region is were Vongerella, a Yuuzhan Vong Darksider post NJO is rumored to be and operate, who is or was in allegiance with Dark Lady of the Sith Lumiya, Jacen's teacher. Vongerella and Lumiya's Sith as per rpg adventure hook are supposed to be based in the Cloak of the Sith and rebirth the Sith there (before any OneSith came about or Keshiri pockets).

    What is known is that Jacen did not fulfill all tassel prophecies. Some claim the tassels were fake made by Lumiya for him to trick him. What if they are real, but not meant for him and talk about someone else actually? Lumiya worked several angles, and if having Vongerella might not have need of Jacen aside to hurt the SkySolos and as a scapegoat threat.

    Was Vongerella her true Apprentice and the tassels spoke about her? The "He" can be replaced with any gender and should not be taken literally. Lets look at the tassels again and see what they might reveal about her:
    • He will remake/rename himself—from the endangered Firrerreo culture.
    We know Vong can remake themselves quite literally via shaping.
    • He will ruin those who deny justice—from the Bith Aalagar race.
    Those who deny justice might be Bothans who against the law continue their ar'kai against the Vong.
    • He will choose the fate of the weak—from the prisoners of Kessel.
    The fate of the infidels?
    Vong have many ways to immortalize love without killing it. Shape shape it into something lasting, trapped alive into a living nightmare, or vongform someone loved like Tahiri had been as Riina Kwad. Lets hope Vongerella does not have ties to her and want her lover Riina back!
    • He will choose how he will be loved—from the Alderaanian flower language.
    • He will win and break his chains—from the homeless subculture of Coruscant.
    • He will shed his skin and choose a new skin
    Ooglith Masquer blues! Yub, very Vong!
    • He will strengthen himself through sacrifice
    Embrace the pain and sacrifice infidels, check.
    • He will crawl through his cloak
    Through the Cloak of the Sith base of operations!
    • He will know brotherhood
    The One Sith are around the corner and may join with Vongerella or she with them once Lumiya is gone.
    • He will make a pet ("make" as in fabricate)
    Well Vongerella with ties to Krayts Vong armor or other pet projects? Or sabotaging the Ossus Project of Kol Skywalker and him as her "pet" that does not know he is played?
    • He will strengthen himself through pain—from the Twi'lek Tahu'ip culture.
    Embrace of Pain, baby!
    • He will be drawn from peace into conflict or possibly His life will be balanced between peace and conflict—from the Sith statuary language of Ziost.



    Was the tassel prophecy about Vongerella and her Legacy Era rise and work? If so it tells us a lot about her untold stories and exploits!
     
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  2. Kato Sai

    Kato Sai Chosen One star 8

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    I find prophecies like this, The Sith’ari and Chosen One fascinating.
    That Jason turned to the dark side to prevent a greater darkness is one of most unique ideas for the fall of a Jedi. It almost means he still is a Jedi even though he became Darth Cadeus.
    Then again trying to fufill or stop prophecies like Tassels tends to create monsters, “the best intentions pave the way to hell.” (St. Bernard of Clairvaux).
     
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  3. Biel Ductavis

    Biel Ductavis Jedi Master star 4

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    The cloak of the sith, might have a more metaphorical meaning imo, considering the way sith like to stay hidden and in the shadows before they reveal themselves, if they do.
     
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  4. Kato Sai

    Kato Sai Chosen One star 8

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    When the Sith rule the galaxy, the Jedi go underground like after Order 606, and when the Jedi have favor and help The Republic rule the Sith are in shadows and hiding. Consequently, the Jedi and Sith are their best selves and most likable and powerful in the shadows.
     
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  5. SiouxFan

    SiouxFan Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Interesting theory...certainly fits better than trying to shoe-horn Jacen into it!
     
  6. AusStig

    AusStig Force Ghost star 5

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    Sounds like it could also refer to Darth Krayt. Depending how you read them.

    He remade himself, twice.

    He ruined the GA and Fel after they denied "justice" of killing the Vong.

    he rules the galaxy choosing the fate of those weaker

    he immortalised his love of power with his Sith followers

    He chooses how he will be loved by being feared

    He takes the galaxy and then comes back from the dead

    The Vong armour becomes his skin, then he sheds it

    he sacrifices many of his allies

    he has bases in the cloak of the Sith (I like this being the cloak by the way a good read)

    he founds the one sith

    the hands of the sith are made by him and his pets

    embrace of pain, also he uses pain in the comics

    he was once a peaceful jedi now a sith warlord.
     
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  7. Kato Sai

    Kato Sai Chosen One star 8

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    Darth Krayt was close to fufilling the Sith’ari prophecy. Especially ire of older Sith Lords.
     
  8. AusStig

    AusStig Force Ghost star 5

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    I would say Bane was the Sith'ari. He got Kaan to destory the Sith, then Bane remade them.

    Darth Krayt was a fallen Jedi, who called themself Sith.
     
  9. Kato Sai

    Kato Sai Chosen One star 8

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    Except Darth Bame failed to fulfilled the “Free of limits” part of the Sith’ari prophecy, Zannah slaying him, and he did not resurrect the Sith from the dead.
     
  10. AusStig

    AusStig Force Ghost star 5

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    Krayt also has a lot of limits. It never says he will resruect the Sith, it says he will 'remake' them Sith. Krayt is a fallen Jedi, not a Sith.
     
  11. Kato Sai

    Kato Sai Chosen One star 8

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    [​IMG]

    It says right there the Sith’ari will “raise The Sith from death and make them stronger than before.”
    Raise from dead is same as resurrect.
     
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  12. AusStig

    AusStig Force Ghost star 5

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    Ok. well since no one made any zombies neither qualify.

    Also Bane did make the Sith stronger while Krayt maybe didn't.
     
  13. Kato Sai

    Kato Sai Chosen One star 8

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    I don’t read it as Zombies, but raised from dead. Like the scene in Akakiri (SW Visions).
     
  14. AusStig

    AusStig Force Ghost star 5

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    If you want. I mean it a prophesy. It could apply to both of them or more (Valkorian springs to mind)

    As I said I don't consider Krayt a Sith at all.
     
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  15. Kato Sai

    Kato Sai Chosen One star 8

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    Did Darth Krayt follow the Sith Code?
     
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  16. AusStig

    AusStig Force Ghost star 5

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    Not really. He lacks strength and the force does not free him. He is still chained by his desire for peace. A Sith seeks power, not as a means but as an end.

    Krayt thinks like a Jedi, just like Kaan before him.
     
  17. Kato Sai

    Kato Sai Chosen One star 8

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    Do you think any former Jedi can ever really purge the dispositions drilled into them to be a great Sith Lord? Or will they all be destined to fufill the Fourth Stage of the Dark Side: Redemption (Windham)?
     
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  18. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord 51x Wacky Wed/3x Two Truths/29x H-man winner star 10 VIP - Game Winner

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    Didn't Exar Kun fall "all the way" with absolutely no sign of any movement toward redemption at any point?
     
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  19. Kato Sai

    Kato Sai Chosen One star 8

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    He did indeed. Though he was dabbling in the dark, learning forbidden Sith knowledge long before his fall. And he and Ulic were marked and chosen by the Sith Spirit of Marko Ragnos.
     
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  20. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord 51x Wacky Wed/3x Two Truths/29x H-man winner star 10 VIP - Game Winner

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    I'm thinking more of Krayt - his studies with XoXaan seem to be akin to Kun's studies with Freedon Nadd.
     
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  21. Kato Sai

    Kato Sai Chosen One star 8

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    Krayt recieved disdain for his Rule of One replacing the Rule of Two, The Dark Lords of Old calling him essentially a heretic. So Its debated if Krayt is considered a Sith at all.
     
  22. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord 51x Wacky Wed/3x Two Truths/29x H-man winner star 10 VIP - Game Winner

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    "Being disdained by other Sith" is pretty common for Sith. Disdain is often a Dark Side thing.
     
  23. Kato Sai

    Kato Sai Chosen One star 8

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    Good rebuttal. Krayt to me only restored the Sith back to the times of the Old Republic, where the Emperor had a Dark Council of Lords, and many Sith Acolytes. Really Krayt merely returned it to an older status quo.
     
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  24. AusStig

    AusStig Force Ghost star 5

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    They will always seek out to form a brotherhood, to share power. That is not Sith.
     
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  25. Kato Sai

    Kato Sai Chosen One star 8

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    And he does not share power.
     
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