main
side
curve

Leia killing Jabba: Realistic?

Discussion in 'Classic Trilogy' started by Snaggleass, Apr 5, 2005.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Snaggleass

    Snaggleass Jedi Youngling star 2

    Registered:
    Oct 6, 2004
    Jabba is this powerful crime-lord. Leia killing him seems too easy. He seriously could not do anything? Thoughts....
     
  2. Kinobe

    Kinobe Jedi Master star 4

    Registered:
    Apr 27, 2003
    I think it could be realistic. He's just a big lump of lard, so he couldn't just get up and push her away. It was probably more to do with the fact that it was chaos in the room at the time that let her get away with it. Normally he'd have a room full of protection, but the bodyguards or whatever are too busy running around in panic to pay attention to what was going on with Jabba.
     
  3. DS615

    DS615 Jedi Padawan star 4

    Registered:
    Oct 30, 2003
    Jabba is this powerful crime-lord.

    What does that matter? He still just a guy, so no air, no life.

    The same is true for anyone, no amount of money, infuence, or "power" will save your life if someone cuts off your air supply, or shoots you, or pushed you off a ledge, etc.

     
  4. Snaggleass

    Snaggleass Jedi Youngling star 2

    Registered:
    Oct 6, 2004
    It's true. That would happen if it was done to you. If you were shot or stabbed.
     
  5. KennyT

    KennyT Jedi Youngling star 3

    Registered:
    Mar 25, 2005
    Jabba had grown lazy and overconfident. He never saw anything like this ever happenning to him because of his influence and all the bodyguards he had. The destraction left him defenseless, and his lazyness took away his strength so Leia over powered him.
     
  6. Tyranus_the_Hutt

    Tyranus_the_Hutt Jedi Padawan star 4

    Registered:
    Nov 14, 2004
    Considering the circumstances which surrounded Leia's asphyxiating display (for Jabba, or for the audience?;)), I suppose that it was realistic enough to believe that Jabba had little recourse in his resigned state of lethargy. KennyT makes a good point - many of these evil characters who inhabit the "Star Wars" universe are seemingly susceptible to overconfidence (indeed, Luke pretty much said as much to the Emperor later in "Return of the Jedi"); it is a notion which holds some modicum of truth in the saga, although I'm not sure that much, if any, thought went into this application. Considering that it seems to be a consistent, yet less pronounced side-issue, I guess that it would be fair to assume that it was designed.

    Jabba's death serves two purposes: 1) we see an evil character receive his comeuppance, and the imposed notions of (galactic) justice are vindicated; and 2) it allows Leia, the person who was enslaved, an opportunity to assert herself and defeat her captor - had Luke or Han saved her, people might have argued that the entire function of Leia in this passage of the film was to satisfy some sexist proclivities on the part of the filmmakers. I understand that that is reading a bit much into the situation, but considering the scrutiny with which these films seem to be met, I wouldn't put it out of the realm of possiblity.

    Anyways, Jabba's demise isn't underwhelming or ridiculous, as Boba Fett's trip into the Sarlacc pitt is often construed to be, but considering the Hutt's role in the film, I don't think any more time needed to spent on this character. The worst idea that I've heard for an alternate Jabba death scene, however, is from a writer I admire greatly, Roger Ebert: "I have always felt Lucas lost an opportunity here; since Jabba obviously must die at some point, why not feed him to the sand thing? I can envision the hutt's globular body slithering along the plank and plopping down into the big open mouth - and then being spit up again, as too unsavory even for this eating machine. Final shot: Green gooey Jabba-stuff dissolving in the monster's digestive juices under a pitiless sun." Uhhh...no.
     
  7. All_Powerful_Jedi

    All_Powerful_Jedi Force Ghost star 4

    Registered:
    Sep 12, 2003
    I believe the inspiration for Jabba's death is from Luca Brazi's death in The Godfather. Lucas doesn't give his villains too dignified of deaths, he usually just wipes them out and is done with it (ie Emperor dying by being tossed down a pit). Given the logistics of where everyone was, Leia killing Jabba made the most sense (with R2 taking on Crumb), and being that she was chained to him, choking was the best strategy to use.
     
  8. Leia's Starboard Hair Bun

    Leia's Starboard Hair Bun Jedi Master star 4

    Registered:
    Apr 21, 1999
    I like how Leia turns the tables on him (I doubt it was planned that way though, just an opportunity that presented itself). Jabba's enormous entourage was what had always kept him safe, and they were all confused and distracted when the fight started outside, the sail barge shutters slammed shut, and the chaos exploded. Jabba was a huge creature so he presumably needed a lot of air, so Leia getting a chain around his throat did the trick after a while. Very graphic death, and one befitting such a vile creature.
     
  9. BATTLELION

    BATTLELION Jedi Youngling star 1

    Registered:
    Feb 6, 2005
    LUCA BRAZI


    Good one. That's what Jabba is, right? A gangstah. He deserved to die that way.

    "Jabba sleeps with the fishes."

    heh heh


    Anyway,

    I thought it was quite satisfying for him to die the way he did:

    1. It was a role reversal. First he's got Leia by the neck, all his girls by the neck and pulls them around.

    It was a reversal of roles for him to die by strangulation.

    2. It also shows that crime does not pay, so be good children!


    props to the guy who thought of Luca Brazi.


    I got to show you this card from decipher. Don't know if any of you guys play the game.

    heres one for ya:


    http://www.decipher.com/starwars/cardlists/specialedition/dark/large/jabbasinfluence.html


    BATTLELION
     
  10. CrazySaber

    CrazySaber Jedi Padawan star 4

    Registered:
    Nov 4, 2004
    I think it was good, mainly because we got to see Leia running around in her slave girl outfit. =P~
     
  11. The_General_Grievous

    The_General_Grievous Jedi Padawan star 4

    Registered:
    Jan 8, 2005
    wouldent the fat abosobred the choking?
     
  12. MetalGoldKnight

    MetalGoldKnight Jedi Youngling star 4

    Registered:
    Jul 31, 2002
    "The same is true for anyone, no amount of money, infuence, or "power" will save your life if someone cuts off your air supply, or shoots you, or pushed you off a ledge, etc."

    Exactly. Boba Fett, the galaxy's best bounty hunter, was defeated because his backpack malfunctioned after a blind man hit it with a stick. The Emperor, who single-handedly brought down a the Republic with his plans and ruled an entire galaxy for decades, died because he was thrown down a shaft. Hell, even the great Death Stars were destroyed because Rebel pilots took advantage of their weakest points. No one and nothing, no matter how powerful, is invincible.
     
  13. plddc1

    plddc1 Jedi Youngling

    Registered:
    Mar 6, 2005
    wouldent the fat abosobred the choking?

    Um, no. Are you under the misimpression that fat people can't be strangled? That being fat causes the pressure of asphyxiation to disappear into thin air? If anything, the additional mass would crush the windpipe even faster.
     
  14. Smuggler-of-Mos-Espa

    Smuggler-of-Mos-Espa Jedi Youngling star 6

    Registered:
    Jan 23, 2002
    Just because one is notorious in power doesen't make them immortal or anything, so yes, it is realistic. You can't tell me you can't choke Bill Gates to death.
     
  15. Darth_Digital

    Darth_Digital Jedi Padawan star 4

    Registered:
    Oct 29, 2001
    Well ALL of Star Wars is lacking a certain 'realism' now isn't it? ;)

    But in relation to this, a certain 'believability' is that Leia drew upon the Force for an increase of strength to kill the slug.
     
  16. nyjet10

    nyjet10 Jedi Youngling star 2

    Registered:
    Feb 1, 2005
    It would be cool if Leia got yellow eyes while doing it. Everyone would be like H**Y ***T shes a SITH!!!
     
  17. DarkShinobi

    DarkShinobi Jedi Youngling

    Registered:
    Mar 21, 2004
    Leia killed Jabba the same way her father liked to dispose of people who angered him...

    Choking 'em.

    ;)



     
  18. eequo

    eequo Jedi Youngling star 3

    Registered:
    Mar 8, 2004
    Lol nyjet. That'd been cool. :D

    Well Jabba is fat, and has really small arms, which are weak after decades of non-use. He couldn't reach the chain. And even if I'm wrong and he could have, he wouldn't have been able to compete against a strong woman putting all her body weight the other way.

    It would be realistically easily possbile to choke someone, especially in the chaos of that scene, and espcially if it were someone like Jabba. No resistance = easy kill
     
  19. UCLAJediMaster

    UCLAJediMaster Jedi Master star 4

    Registered:
    Feb 16, 2001
    if i am not mistaken they show jabba puling on the chain of the dancing girl....

    she has to use her whole body to fight off his strength.

    i would not assume his arms are that weak.

    besides leia was really pissed, using her whole body, and obviously straining.

     
  20. StormTrooper1776

    StormTrooper1776 Jedi Padawan star 4

    Registered:
    Mar 26, 2004
    The way Leia killed Jabba ia cool,but a blaster to the head would of been more realistic.
     
  21. UCLAJediMaster

    UCLAJediMaster Jedi Master star 4

    Registered:
    Feb 16, 2001
    yeah... usually blaster are standard equipment for chained up slave girls...

     
  22. JediKnightOB1

    JediKnightOB1 Jedi Grand Master star 5

    Registered:
    Jan 26, 2003
    Leia killing Jabba: Realistic?

    I guess it looks realistic. But who knows what strangeling a Hutt looks like.
     
  23. skyy38

    skyy38 Jedi Youngling star 2

    Registered:
    Aug 26, 2003
    Leia was using the force...
     
  24. topgoalscorer_no11

    topgoalscorer_no11 Jedi Grand Master star 4

    Registered:
    Jul 23, 2001
    I'll be honest, it's never convinced me.

    She just doesn't seem to be pulling the chain tight enough.

    I suppose possibly she trapped a nerve or hurt him in a particularly vulnerable part of Huttese physiology that sent him into cardiac arrest.

    As a non-Xenobiologist, I guess I'll just have to learn to accept it though.
     
  25. Gordito63

    Gordito63 Jedi Youngling

    Registered:
    Apr 3, 2005
    I think its realistic. Maybe Jabba is considered powerful through his connections and all the people he has working for him. He is never actually shown to be a threat through his physical power, more through the way he runs things. Like a Roman Emperor I guess, feared through his rulings, but in reality, he himself probably isn't all too scary.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.