Leia's and Luke's veiw of their father

At the end of ROTJ Luke view Anakin has a good guy he threw Palpatine in the pit and saved Luke. But what about Leia. Do you think she views her father as Anakin the man who killed the Emporer and saved Luke, or do you think she views him as Darth Vader the man who blew up her home Planet of Alderaan. What do you think Leia feels about her father. If she still does view Vader as evil do you think this would bother Luke.

 

I think they both think that he is good.

 

She probably thinks that he is good when Luke tells her that he turned back from the dark side. She might not forgive him, though.



Anakin Skywalker is good
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i mean, he named her son after him, so she cant hate him....

 

he named her son

that doesn't make sense

 

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Once Anakin died, Luke forgave him for everything. Luke's view was that everything Vader did was just that: done by Vader. Luke saw them as two different people, as he should have, so he knew that Anakin had nothing to do with those terrible crimes. Essentially, Luke didn't have forgive Anakin for everything because he *essentially* did nothing wrong in the years between Episode III and Episode IV.

Leia, on the other hand, had a different view. At first, she hated Darth Vader and Anakin Skywalker. She saw them as the same person. She saw Anakin as the one who killed the Jedi, as the one who destroyed Alderaan, as the one who killed her parents and as the one who made her and her friends suffer for so long. When the ghost of Anakin appeared before her in The Truce at Bakura, Leia basically said that she wanted nothing to do with him and told him to go away and never return to her. Later, Luke was able to convince her that Anakin and Vader were two separate people and then she convinced Han Solo to name their son Anakin Solo.

 

Vader didn't destroy her homeworld, Tarkin did that. Vader wasn't a ranking officer on the Death Star, so he didn't much authority over that incident. He was on the Death Star to keep an watchful eye on Tarkin, and to make sure he didn't go on a power trip with toy and try anything foolish, like trying to take the empire for himself.

Leia had every reason to be pissed at her father considering he tortured her several times. He didn't know that she was his daughter at the time, but you don't get many good father points for doing something like that.

 

Leia doesnt see her father as a good guy; it takes her years to get over what he did which is why I like Leia more than LUke. Throwing one evil man tohis death doesnt make up for what he did for the past 20years. From the books it took Leia a long time to stop hating him and I dont know if she ever forgave him. Even after Anakin is born she is still a little skittish(i think) I want to read more books with Leia, Han, and Anakin Solo.

 

I just read Treaty at Bakura, so this is probably slightly biased.

In my opinion, Luke saw his turn from the dark side, and took it as truth. He forgave Anakin for everything he'd done to him; the loss of his hand, the pain and injuries he's caused Luke, and replaced it all with the good memories he had of Vader: saving him from Palpatine and his last moments. However, Leia, I think, is different. As someone said earlier, Tarkin blew up Aldderan. However, the idea was probably Vader's, and he stood by and made Leia watch this tradgedy. He did nothing to stop him from blowing up her friends and adoptive family, and that makes him jsut as bad as Tarkin in Leia's book. She's bitter about that, and he tourtured her, in ways that were obviously painful to her. He also hurt the man Leia loved and froze him in carbonite. For her whole life, Vader has been the enbodimetn of evil. The intial shock of learning that he is her father scares and shocks her, adn i believe she'd refuse to admit it for quite a while. Eventually she comes to terms with her father being Anakin Skywalker (as is shown by naming her son Anakin), but she may have never forgiven Vader. Some would consider them two seperate people because of the changes that happened when Anakin became Vader, and I think Leia's one of these people.

 

Actually, I am in the process of rereading the novelization of Star Wars, and it is completely Tarkin's idea. Tarkin explains the entire scheme to Vader, so it is not Vader's idea.

 

Novelaztions of the films count as EU, so it is up to the readers whether to accept it as cannon or not. You, as the reader, may consider it cannon. I, as a reader, do not and like to believe that it was actually an idea formulated as a backup plan by Tarkin, Vader AND Palpatine.

 

Seeing as how the EU has been labeled as official canon by Lucas himself, there's no interpetations about it, if the EU states something as so, no matter how ridiculous it may be, then that's how it is, so your theory of deciding for yourself what's canon and what's not canon doesn't really fly.

 

So, despite the fact that the novelization for Star Wars was in fact written by George Lucas, translating his vision from film to the written page, you discount it? I can understand being hesitant to count any of the books that take place after Jedi as non-canonical. But, the movie novelizations themselves are based on the movie scripts, screenplays, storyboards that the movies are. Its just a different medium to tell the same story. This is especially true of Star Wars. George Lucas wrote the book, made the movie. His vision doesn't change between film and written forms.

 

read Tatooine Ghost
Leia's view of her father is clearly written out, as well as how she feels once she finds her grandmother's diary

 

Didn't the line go something like this:

Tarkin: Perhaps she'll respond to an alternate form of persuasion.
Vader: What do you mean?

Sounds to me like Tarkin had blowing up Alderaan in mind and now had a chance to actually do it. Vader did a lot of crap, Alderaan is one thing I would not put on him.

 

George Lucas wrote the book, made the movie. His vision doesn't change between film and written forms.

While I agree with your post, Lucas didn't write the book, his name is on there as the author, but Alan Dean Foster was the actual ghost writer of the book.

 

Of course this is EU, so I'm obliged to expect some bashing.

I'm currently reading 'The Truce at Bakura.' which takes place right after Luke burns Vader's suit. During the book Leia still thinks of Bail as her father and refuses her orgins as a Skywalker.

There is also a part where the force ghost of Anakin appears to her and asks for forgiveness,of her and Han, and she says she can barely forgive him for his evil rule and destruction of life,but she can forgive him for what he had done to Han. He tells her that he cannot appear to her again, that his time is short, but if she comes to terms he will always be with her and able to listen. She gets angry and breaks down.

 

I think once Leia learns the ways of the force and the struggle a jedi can have with the darkside then she will love him.

 

He [Anakin] tells her that he cannot appear to her again, that his time is short, but if she comes to terms he will always be with her and able to listen.

You just touched on something that's been stirring in my mind since ROTS.

In the EU, esp "Truce at Bakura" and "Heir of the Empire" the force ghosts
of Anakin and Obi Wan, respectively, tell Leia and Luke, respectively,
that they can't contact them again. The ending of ROTS seems to contradict this,
in that those who become one with the force retain their idenity indefinetly
and are able to commune with those whom are force sensitive.

I know this is more of a Saga issue, but the things in this thread got
me thinking.

Any thoughts?

EDIT: In fact, watching the end of ROTJ before ROTS, I get the feeling that
Luke would never be able to see Anakin, Yoda and Obi Wan again, that their presence
is more of a final faretheewell.

After seeing ROTS, it makes me think that Luke and Leia can learn how to just
hang out and shoot the bantha with Anakin, Qui Gon, Yoda and Obi Wan at leisure.

 

I don't know if Palpatine had played a part in the decision to destroy Alderaan, but Vader certainly didn't. In fact, he seemed to harbor a low opinion of the Death Star, anyway. Why do you insist upon believing something that is definitely not true?

 

true..

 

She (like luke) pob thinks that he is good and can be saved from the dark side