Length of Jedi Training before Kighthood........

It has always bothered me that Obi-Wan and all other Jedi spent decades training for Knighthood, while Luke trained for like a month and became a Jedi. Did Yoda filter out all the 101 classes and just cut to the chase or what. At least Anakin spent 10 plus years training. Any theories?

 

even when you are a padawan you're a jedi but they are levels to being a jedi

padawan learner

jedi knight

jedi master


"technically" luke was still a padawan in rotj he was not a knight yet ,but he was a still a jedi. but i think the average length to become a jedi knight is 25 yrs

 

What about Yoda... Did he have a Hundred year old adolesence and Padwanship, or was he fully yoda-ised by the ripe old age of 23?

 

Well for a species like Yoda's that has a huge Life span(he was like 900 years old in Rotj) I would imagine that he is bascally an infant for that first 50-100 years. Which is probably when he was taken by the Jedi order. His learning of the force probably progressed in a time span similar to the other jedi. I just think there is a huge difference between 25 years(give or take) and several months(at best). Building your own lightsaber is supposed to be a feat of advanced Jedi, but Luke has done so by Rotj.

 

you have to remember that luke's force potential was off the meter he was super raw in power .he is the son of the chosen one .what luke did no jedi ever did before him so i can understand why you feel luke did somethings that it takes many yrs to learn for a normal jedi . but take this in to account luke was taught the force at around 19yrs old which no jedi before him was taught at that age .luke made strides with the force that no jedi before had done. luke beat vader as a padawan!!! that should show you how gifted luke was. he also did not give in to the darkside when fighting his father nor did he fear the emperor another statement of luke's gift of using teh force.to put it plain and simple luke was the man

 

All i'm saying is that Luke, with the exception of some basic training, was a home-schooled jedi. He was self-taught but made great strides. If E.U. comes into play he does go dark for a while. I'm not saying that luke isn't the man. It just makes previous jedi's experiences look less important when it takes him months to develop skills that others spent decades learning.

 

No, it just makes Luke look that much more than they were...

 

exactly!!! nuff said......

 

Give OG a break you bashers! Pessimism (sp?), isn't needed here. Anyway Luke came into dark times that necessitated faster training. No more, no less.

 

i dont think anyone is bashing him he has an opionon and so do other people

 

How much time passes between ESB and ROTJ? I thought it was over a year or even more. So I don't think he went from wimp to Jedi in a few months.

 

A Jedi can be as young as a few months, in human years, and still be accepted for Jedi training.

A Jedi Master or, in some cases, Jedi Knight can choose to take on a student as his Padawan learner. A Padawan must be at the age of 13 or less, any students older then that are kept on at the Jedi Temple but serve mainly as staff and will never go out on missions.

So, you could say that your average Jedi would have had 10 years of training as a student.

The Padawan is expected to assist and learn from their Master (even Knights are referred to as 'Master' in this case) for as long as is necessary. There is no set limit to the amount of years needed in service to their Master.

Progression to the next level from Padawan, that of a Jedi Knight, in entirely reliant on their Master's judgement of their ability. If he feels they would be able to pass the Jedi Trials required, then he can present his Padawan to the Jedi Council and submit him for the Trials. If the Padawan is able to pass these trials, then he will become a Jedi Knight.

That's the whole thing, as set up in the years before the Empire.

Looking at Obi-Wan as a case study...he probably spent 10 years of his early life as a student, then was taken on by Master Qui-Gon Jinn at the age of 13. When we meet him in TPM, he's still a Padawan learner at the age of 25. By the end of the film, he is granted the level of Jedi Knight as a kind of special situation due to the death of his Master and his defeat of Darth Maul. When we catch up with him in AOTC, he's 35 and has been training Anakin as a Padawan for 10 years.

So Obi-Wan had about 24-odd years of training as a student and a Padawan before finally becoming a Jedi Knight.

When Yoda referred to Luke as 'too old', he was utterly right! Possibly in thought of Anakin's situation, as well.

Luke had a real crash course - what little Obi-Wan could teach him on the Falcon, about a month of training with Yoda in ESB (opinion varies about the length of time he had, some think less), and then the 1-year gap between ESB and ROTJ.

Luke probably had about 4 years of self-training in the Force, and only around 5-6 weeks at the very most from Obi-Wan and Yoda. His rapid progression is more due to his natural ability as the son of Anakin, but there are several large gaps in his knowledge and experience due to this.

But as has been said, it didn't matter - in such a dire situation, Yoda and Obi-Wan needed to teach him what they could and hope that his innate ability would carry him the rest of the way.

Man, what a rambling post

 

I think that 1. Yoda told him what he needed to know and didn't spend alot of time going into it as he would at the Jedi Temple. Just show him the basics and he will learn the more advanced techniques on his own. Also 2. I think that he was able to understand what Yoda was talking about and it wasn't as difficult for him as it could have been for the other Jedi's. Also with the present situation, I doubt he wanted to train him for 10 years before he had him face Vader. Time would not have allowed it.

 

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How much time passes between ESB and ROTJ? I thought it was over a year or even more. So I don't think he went from wimp to Jedi in a few months.[/b][hr][/blockquote]Approximately slightly more than a year passes in between ESB and ROTJ, with Luke using what he learned from the former film to grow in power and stature during that time. His experiences from the Marvel Comics series and [i]Shadows of the Empire[/i] are major shapers in how far he is able to progress, to the point where he is more than able to stand Vader off at the end of [i]Jedi[/i].

He had around two months to train with Yoda on Dagobah (the length of time it took the [i]Falcon[/i] to make the journey from Anoat to Bespin), and had around eight or ten days with Obi-Wan en route to Alderaan. As someone else in here also mentioned, it is quite astonishing how rapidly he ascends in his powers and control, considering that his training was *very* abbreviated when compared to padawans during the Old Republic era.