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Let's have a go at Republic Heroes (DS and Wii version disputes (inc new Clone Wars timeline info))

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Sinrebirth , May 9, 2010.

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  1. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Well there's some interesting timeline information in here. Firstly the Nute Trilogy takes place roughly the same time as the Ryloth Trilogy, and the R2 duology takes place afterwards, however Cad Bane's inclusion (I assume) moves these episodes after the Senate Hostage episode, if that was the first time they had ever met Bane...

    For Wii/DS version disputes, let's see the Wii version of events...

    In this version we have Ryloth occurring as normal, followed by an attack on Juma 9 and Alzoc III, with Ryloth continuing with Cad Bane capturing two clones and Anakin and Ahsoka rescuing them. In the DS version, as far as I'm aware, Bane gives the Jedi codes to defeat the base at Juma, so we have to assume t
     
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  2. Ulicus

    Ulicus Lapsed Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I'm pretty sure it wasn't (that was the Season 1 finale, right?). Both Anakin and Bane recognise each other in that episode. I was under the impression that Holocron Heist/Cargo of Doom took place before that episode.
     
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  3. fistofan1

    fistofan1 Jedi Master star 4

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    I'm pretty sure the events of the DS game are non-canon. They completely change the narrative of some of the episodes.
     
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  4. Darth_Foo

    Darth_Foo Force Ghost star 4

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    Sometimes its best to not include video games in cannon....
     
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  5. The_Four_Dot_Elipsis

    The_Four_Dot_Elipsis Force Ghost star 5

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    But they are, so we deal.
     
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  6. MercenaryAce

    MercenaryAce Chosen One star 6

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    I am pretty sure that Cargo of Doom and Holocron heist happen afterwards, as some sources say that Palpatine hired him after being impressed but how he took control of the senate.

    That said, I got the feeling they had met before int that episode, so they could have met on Ryloth...and probably did meet on Ryloth for the first time because Anakin and Bane do recognize each other in the game.
     
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  7. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Do recognise each other in the game? Or do not? I think I misread that sentence.

    *looks out for Quest*

    Helloooo...
     
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  8. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I haven't played either version yet- though I intend to eventually. (but then, video game backlog has become my curse).

    Couple things: the Droid Duo can't be set after the Nute trilogy because the Nute trilogy is set after the Malevolence trilogy (as per the webcomics) and the Droid Duo is set before Malevolence (as per episode dialogue/episode guide, Wild Space, etc).

    Hostage Crisis doesn't have to be the first time they meet (you'll recall Bane recognizes Skywalker at a glimpse) but it does have to be before Holocron Heist/Cargo of Doom/Children of the Force- and I don't think those can be moved before the other episodes you mention.



    I think a lot of this can be chalked up to the ambiguous airing order vs production order of the series. You'll recall some of the past TCW games had events that shifted around the Droid/Malevolence/Nute order of events because they were going by production order, not airing order.
     
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  9. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    *rubs eyes*

    So...

    Droid Duo
    Malevolence Trilogy
    Nute Trilogy

    Well, this is a mess. However, the game implies different, as does Lightsaber Battles.

    Alrighty, retcon fiddle.

    1. Ryloth Trilogy
    2. Droid Duo
    3. Malevolence Trilogy
    4. Nute Trilogy, Second Battle of Christophsis, Battle of Mustafar (also shown in Lightsaber Duels), First Battle of Juma 9 (CIS world), (as per Republic Heroes (DS)),
    5. Then Second Battle of Ryloth, Second Battle of Juma 9, Battle of Alzoc III, Battle of Behphour (as per Republic Heroes (Wii)) As necessity there need to be missions in the DS game re-ordered so that Bane and Kit and the others interact on and off on Ryloth (the DS Ryloth missions by necessity taking place on and off).
    6. Etc

    Any issues with Ryloth being before Droid Duo?
     
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  10. Plaristes

    Plaristes Jedi Master star 4

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    Yeah, Wild Space picks up a week after the TCW film. It establishes that Anakin, Ahsoka, and Obi-Wan were cooling their heels on Coruscant, not saving Ryloth, during that week. Then the book leads right into "Downfall of a Droid," so the Ryloth trilogy must be later.
     
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  11. MercenaryAce

    MercenaryAce Chosen One star 6

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    Do not. Sorry, i gues sI have been very prone to typos recently.
     
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  12. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Ah, yes, I recall.

    That isn't insurmountable, though. We had the same timeline issues in Jedi Trial and Cestus Deception. I'll have to have a reread of that specific element, methinks, and see.
     
    Sinrebirth , May 13, 2010
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  13. Armchair_Admiral

    Armchair_Admiral Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I already posted this over at LACWC, but I thought this bit of info is extremely important for this thread:

     
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  14. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Ah Sithspawn. That's unhelpful...

    In the DS version there are missions which take place dependent of Ryloth and independent the series; a mission to Vassek (again) and battles at Mustafar and Christophsis, culminating in a (First) Battle of Juma 9. It may be necessary to have a pre-Tambor Battle of Ryloth, I suspect. The Three Battles of Ryloth...

    Much like the mis-mention of the Battle of Jabiim required there to be two Battles of Jabiim at one point in ye old canon.
     
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