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Let's Identify Some Unidentified Species

Discussion in 'Literature' started by BobaMatt, Feb 8, 2007.

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  1. BobaMatt

    BobaMatt TFN EU Staff star 7 VIP

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    As the EU has pressed forward and more and more retcons have been made, many characters whose backstories weren't all that fleshed out and who had been left utterly speciesless have retroactively found homes amongst newly invented denizens of the galaxy. There are still many, however, that haven't been given species, yet. Wookieepedia has a heaping list of them. While in some cases, the species is truly unidentifiable, in others it just seems like the publishers haven't gotten around to it yet. Let's help 'em out, shall we? Let's have some fun trying to assign species, where possible, to these enigmatic personages.

    I'll start. Suprema looks like a Nuknog.
    [image=http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/b/b0/Dala_helmet.jpg][image=http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/9/94/Nuknog.jpg]

    EDIT: Yet another list to supplement the above two.
     
  2. RogueWompRat

    RogueWompRat Jedi Youngling star 4

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    How 'bout no, man. The suprema doesn't really look like a Nuknog, same as half the "clever" species designations the folks at Wookieepedia make. "Gee, this guy looks vaguely like a Whateverian. Sure, the number of fingers is off and the face is shaped completely differently, but sure, I'm going to put my idle guess out there on a resource that should be for canon information only." The galaxy is a big place, with hundreds of millions of sentient species. Don't be so quick to jump to conclusions, there will always be individuals unidentified, background aliens not given a name, planet and a backstory. And something isn't another because you think it somewhat resembles it.
     
  3. BobaMatt

    BobaMatt TFN EU Staff star 7 VIP

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    Uh...yeah, you're right. That's why the initial post says "let's have some fun" and "looks like a Nuknog." I wasn't advocating updating the Wook with fanon, and it's not as if these sort of retcons aren't actually being made by LFL. Furthermore, I acknowledge in the post that a great deal of the listed species don't reall resemble anything. The retcons tend to be made to trim fat rather than having a bunch of similar looking species floating about, or provide story links.

    On a board dedicated to this sort of thing, I thought it might be an interesting little exercise. I guess I was wrong, as your perhaps over-vehement response would indicate.
     
  4. Havac

    Havac Former Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Those are not separate individuals. They are all the various manifestations of Waru.
     
  5. Obi-Wan-Lebowski

    Obi-Wan-Lebowski Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Only the scaly and/or slimy ones, the hairy ones are incarnations of Kyles beard.
     
  6. TheEmpireStrikes

    TheEmpireStrikes Jedi Youngling star 2

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    I like to think of Dafi as being a Fosh.
     
  7. LastOneStanding

    LastOneStanding Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I always kind of thought of Dominus as a Herglic.
     
  8. BobaMatt

    BobaMatt TFN EU Staff star 7 VIP

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    Hm. Nice one.

    Here's what bugs me about the original Jaing: He's clearly an attempt by an uninformed artist or writer to explain the Mandalorian insignia. Well that's one thing. The other thing is that the story is dumb, and conflicts with the already established story of Durge's hatred of the Mandalorians. Anyway, makes me wish the Taung didn't already have a canonical appearance...

    Anyway, Mira appears to just be another Human/Theelin hybrid.
    [image=http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/d/dd/Mira1.jpg]
     
  9. DarthMane2

    DarthMane2 Force Ghost star 5

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    and how did the Jaing story mess up anything about the Mandalorian symbol. It's a pretty straight forward story, and is helped in the article.

    The symbol was mistaken for a bantha, thought to be that of a Mythosaur(KOTOR symbol uses this), but was really that of a great Mandalorian training master.

    My bad for a short offtopic moment.
     
  10. BobaMatt

    BobaMatt TFN EU Staff star 7 VIP

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    I was under the impression that the skull was in use for a long time before Jaing was born.
     
  11. Corusca_One

    Corusca_One Jedi Master star 3

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  12. DarthMane2

    DarthMane2 Force Ghost star 5

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    Afraid not. People say that because of the Essential guide pic that shows a far off beast rider with a symbol on his arm that looks nothing like a Mandalorian symbol. Nor has any offical take been made on it. And with the new symbol created for KOTOR(changed because of me thank you), which is the Mythosuar, it should end the whole stupid debate over the Jaing symbol.

    So I'd say that it's offical that Jaings head is indeed the Mandalorian Symbol of the modern age. Just like Prototype and the Mandalorian Article confirm.

     
  13. BobaMatt

    BobaMatt TFN EU Staff star 7 VIP

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    Sssk! looks like a number of felinoid species.

    How do you pronounce that, anyway? Is the "!" a tongue click?
     
  14. Havac

    Havac Former Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Just sound really excited each time you say it.
     
  15. BobaMatt

    BobaMatt TFN EU Staff star 7 VIP

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    Aaaah. Makes sense. What's that look like?
    Very nice.

    And how was it "because of you"?
     
  16. 000

    000 Jedi Master star 4

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    A Jaing-head showed up in "Flashpoint," part 1, Nuke pointed out the error, and Dustin designed the new old (and superior, I think) logo to replace it.

    Which is just one reason why Dustin is awesome.
     
  17. DarthMane2

    DarthMane2 Force Ghost star 5

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    During my time at Dark Horse I bitched like hell about the use of the Jaing symbol in issue 7. I used by reasoning from above, which is true. A lot of bitching, plus being right, allows for some change.

    Thus this is why the symbol in 8 and 9 of KOTOR is different. He had to go back and change them from the Jaing symbol he had before. I assume in the trade, the Jaing symbol in 7 will be changed as well.


    and this is all I could fine. Yes, the symbol behind Mandalore.

    http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Mandaloreultimate2.JPG
     
  18. 000

    000 Jedi Master star 4

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    Heh. I was going to say "complained" rather than "pointed out," but didn't want to sound negative. :p
     
  19. DarthMane2

    DarthMane2 Force Ghost star 5

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    i thought bitching was another word for complaining?
     
  20. Kaje

    Kaje Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Scowl. So you're the reason KOTOR 8 was delayed an entire month.
     
  21. DarthMane2

    DarthMane2 Force Ghost star 5

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    I don't know about that. I don't think it takes that long to change a symbol. In fact it wasn't that long after by bitching run that the preview came out. So he did it in less than a week or two.
     
  22. Eyrezer

    Eyrezer Jedi Master star 3

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    I actually thinks he'd made a good Chistori.

    [image=http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/thumb/2/21/Desann-temple.jpg/400px-Desann-temple.jpg]

    I help to maintain the gallery of unidentified species at Wookieepedia, and enjoy speculating as to their species. It was cool to spot what I think is a Tunroth in KOTOR 11.

    [image=http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/1/1a/Tunroth_KOTOR.jpg]
     
  23. BobaMatt

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    It is, but it carries a more negative connotation, and it's not as polite. Trip was just humorously pointing out that you made his concern over "not sounding too negative" moot by using the word "bitching." Nothing wrong with it, just...yeah. Anyway.
    [face_thinking]

    Nice. Continuity wise, it would make sense that they'd be seen around the galaxy in this era, as it was thousands of years before the Reslian Purge.
     
  24. LastOneStanding

    LastOneStanding Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Ssssk! looks more like a Farghul to me (especially Harll).
     
  25. BobaMatt

    BobaMatt TFN EU Staff star 7 VIP

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    I'm pretty sure Bin Essada is human. Is there any reason to think otherwise? Same goes for Moff Hissa. So what he sharpened his teeth?

    I'm also unsure why "Children of the Green Planet" is not an acceptable species name.

    And wherever this guy's from, I'd wager he shares some DNA with the Reek.
     
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