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Lightsaber Color ...... Meanings?

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  1. Darth_Roadkill

    Darth_Roadkill Jedi Youngling star 1

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    "What does your saber color say about you?"

    First think of a color wheel to get the visualization down. Red, Orange, Yellow, Green, Blue, Purple, Red

    Observation of movies and books makes me think

    Orange - Darth Maul (if you put the maul toy beside the vader toy you see what I mean)
    Orange is almost completely evil, perhaps Maul was not as evil as he let on, He was not yet completely lost to the dark side. Just enjoyed the power that came with it. And he was "farm-raised" on the dark side by Palps. So he is not necesarily evil by choice. Just its part of who he is.

    Yellow - Lowbacca, Darth_Roakill
    Thinker with dangerous thoughts. Though Lowbacca has not yet shown any outward sign of danger. Perhaps in the future he will become a bit of a Heritic, like myself. Believes in a greater understanding of the Force than normal Jedi beliefs, however is constantly aware that the Dark Side is still the Dark Side, and must be watched closely, eternal vigilance allows the yellow saber jedi to stray close to the dark side without crossing the line.

    Green - Qui-gon, Yoda, ep6 Luke Skywalker
    Thinker, thoughts are inward of the force, not outward of the battle. Luke (although it was not the lightsaber he chose for himself) used a blue lightsaber, he was a warrior first, a jedi second until he built his own saber, in ROTJ he showed a much deeper understanding of the force than previous. He didnt rush into battle anymore, he tried subtlety first (mind tricks, misdirection) only when he had to did he draw his blade.

    Blue - Obi-Wan, Anakin, ep4&5 Luke
    Denotes a jedi warrior, less time for thinking, more time for action. Anakin Skywalker was always trying to prove himself, his strength was not on internal reflection but in outward action. Obi-Wan was also a warrior first, thus the reason he was the General of the clone army.

    Purple - Jaina Solo, Mace Windu
    Both without knowing it would at some point stray closse to the darkside (of course Jaina fell but was redeemed). Purple mixes a bit of the Blue (warrior) with a bit of the Red (dark side), but it is still not wholy Dark. Just the potential is there.

    RED - DUH! Sith, Sidious, Vader, Dooku, and for a time Leia (if I remember right)
    Leia is not a typical Jedi (I dont remember if she has finished her Training yet) Her red saber seems to me to show that because she uses her emotions often without thought of the concequence, she would be a good candidate for a sith apprentice. Fortunately her brother keeps her on the path. The sith use red crystals that are synthesized because they have no need of tradition and natural crystals. A reflection of the darkness within them, they manipulate materials into crystals for there sabers instead of using natural gems, just like they manipulate the force to there will instead of letting it guide them.

    What you think?
    DRK
     
  2. Jedi_Johnson

    Jedi_Johnson Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    The only problem I see is with blue. Obi-Wan was only a general due to the changes occuring around him. I wouldn't consider him a warrior first myself. I think he trusted a lot more in the will of the force.
     
  3. Zebra3

    Zebra3 Jedi Master star 5

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    ^^ I agree with that one. He even becomes referred to as "The Negotiator" for his use of diplomacy.
     
  4. Darth_Roadkill

    Darth_Roadkill Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Blue does not mean he does not understand the complexiy of the force, it just means that his natural element is in the fight, he was always mad at Qui Gon for not taking action or for doing things that did not seem to make sense unless you were in tune with the force.
     
  5. rogue_wookiee

    rogue_wookiee Jedi Youngling star 6

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    [craziest theory ever]Or it could just depend on what crystal they find for their saber! :eek: [/craziest theory ever]

    :p
     
  6. Darth_Roadkill

    Darth_Roadkill Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I agree that he is a great negotiator, perhaps he is simply thrust into a role as warrior. I agree it is just the crystal they choose that makes the color, however perhaps theh force works in mysterious ways...

    This isnt really meant to be fact, its just interesting theory. I think some jedi may choose colors and others just pick a gem that looks like it is the best quality reguardless of the color.


    On a side note. Mace windu had a purple lightsaber because SLJ begged for one from GL.

    And in Clone Wars V2 cartoons at the crystal cave there were alot of blue and green crystals but also alot of Purple crystals, if they are so plentiful why dont other jedi choose purple?

    Of course the cartoon is not considered true canon for some reason, even though GL was involved personally.
     
  7. Darth_Roadkill

    Darth_Roadkill Jedi Youngling star 1

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    oops, double post....

    Perhaps warrior is not the correct word, perhaps "drawn to action instead of contemplation" is better... A warrior and a negotiator are both drawn to action.


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  8. Jedi_Johnson

    Jedi_Johnson Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Well in the ROTS novelization it is mentioned that Obi-Wan's lightsaber form is the most general and simple of all the forms. Primarily defensive if I remember right. Thats what leads me to think Obi-Wan is less the 'warrior.' But when he is forced into a position where he must fight it is primarily a defensive duel on his part. Whearas Anakin has a very offensive based saber form.
     
  9. KenKenobi

    KenKenobi Chosen One star 6

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    Well in the ROTS novelization it is mentioned that Obi-Wan's lightsaber form is the most general and simple of all the forms. Primarily defensive if I remember right.

    Actually he fakes Shii-Cho (Form I, "general and simple") and some Ataro acrobatics during his fight with Dooku, until he drops into Soresu (the uber-defensive Form he mastered).


    Anyways, a couple of those descriptions are out of whack-- Kenobi is "The Negotiator", not some impulsive Anakin-class attacker, and Maul doesn't have an orange blade at all (compare his blade to Even Piell's orange blade on the cover of the Acts of War Trade Paperback).

    Your purple explanation is great, though-- remember that Mara Jade (former Dark Sider) and Anakin Solo (always feared of fulfilling his namesake) also has purple sabers.
     
  10. Darth_Roadkill

    Darth_Roadkill Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I actually started with the purple saber, and decided to try an expand the explanation, unfortunatly I couldnt come up with perfect explanations, and I suppose there are always exceptions to the rule.

    But yes, my purple theory was always the most thought out, as well as the yellow, cause thats my personal fav and the color of my EL saber.

    Forgot about Anakin Solo's color and Mara's, see I am on to something...

    DRK
     
  11. jedisolo_2

    jedisolo_2 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    what about silver? Corran Horn has a silver lightsaber. I think actually though its silver on one side and a different color on the other. Correct me if I'm wrong.
    About the purple lightsabers... very good explanation. Although I don't remember Mara ever having a lightsaber?
     
  12. HandofSkywalker86

    HandofSkywalker86 Jedi Master star 4

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    Silver signifies that one is a huge Gary Stu... just look at the Exile and Corran :p

    Seriously IMO it dosn't mean anything. Its just what color crystal they find.
     
  13. Ja-ClosEasou

    Ja-ClosEasou Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Lowbacca had a bronze-coloured lightsabre if I remember correctly.

    And Obi-Wan fakes Ataro first, before dropping into Soresu.

    Anakin fakes Shii-Cho before dropping into....?

    I can't remember :p
     
  14. Tam_Elgrin

    Tam_Elgrin Jedi Master star 4

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    >>"(if you put the maul toy beside the vader toy you see what I mean)"<<

    Using this logic, Dooku has a pink saber. What does this tell us about him?

    [image=http://www.rebelscum.com/ROTS/rots0513dookusaber.jpg]
     
  15. Kakkaraun

    Kakkaraun Jedi Youngling star 1

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    ...

    Anyway.

    Red - Dark sider.

    Blue - Light sider, proponent of the Unifying Force, more orthodox in terms of the Jedi Order.

    Green - Light sider, proponent of the Living Force, less orthodox.

    Other colors - "Dewd, wouldn't it be kewl if the saber was, like, yellow?/I want a purple one. So I can pick myself out in the big battle scene."
     
  16. Darth_Roadkill

    Darth_Roadkill Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Sounds good to me except perhaps

    other colors = choose your own meaning
     
  17. Coonsan

    Coonsan Jedi Youngling star 2

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    dont forget that peoples lightsaber colors change often, and that as other people said earlier there is many many more colors then just green blue purple and red, some to think of (some were already mentioned):
    lowbacca-copper
    corran horn-a LS that could be purple or silve-ish depending
    leia-had, what, 2 red lightsabers and a white/clear one from luke?

    u also have to look at just movies or EU too, because in some EU sources and games and such, Plo Koon had an orange saber, and i believe Ki-adi had a purple (could be mistaken on that one)

    personally i think they have no meaning at all
     
  18. Darth_Roadkill

    Darth_Roadkill Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Its true, perhaps the only meaningful color is any shade of RED that comes from a synthetic crystal. Though how to tell if its synthetic red or ruby red or garnet red or any other crystal would be hard. But red seems to be a mainly Sith color, reguardless of gem.

    Except of course for Leia since she doesnt really care about jedi teachings.

    Green and Blue are jedi colors mostly because that is what is abundant in the caves they travel to in order to make there own lightsabers. And padawan sabers are just made from stock crystals.

    Who was it that had the saber that was influenced by the Sith ghost. And ended up having a saber that ran through the rainbow so fast that it seemed to be white most of the time?

    You could interpret that to mean that he was so confused that he didnt know which side he was really on. OR you could just say it was because he used so many colors of crystals (a handful if I remember right)

    But really the NJO colors dont matter as much as the OJO ones, cause the NJO dont have one certain place to go for crystals.

    On another note, isnt Lukes green saber made from a synthetic crystal? I seem to remember reading the scene where he found "Ben's" notes on how to build one and he had to kiln a few different crystals before getting one that actually worked. So why did his turn out green instead of red? ( I know, im sure its the materials)

    Everyone elses sabers are from gems they found, they werent going for a certain color in most cases if I remember right...


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  19. SpeldoriontheBlended

    SpeldoriontheBlended Jedi Padawan star 4

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    A Camaasi Jedi had a red 'saber. Make of it what you will. :D
     
  20. Maximus_Draco

    Maximus_Draco Jedi Youngling

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    Wasn't the explination in KOTOR? I had to restart, and I'm not that far yet, but they say at the jedi training the meanings of three, they were for the role of the particular jedi;

    Blue - Knight
    Yellow - Guardian

    Green - I can't remember at the momment.

    btw, how many different colors are there anyways?
     
  21. Fels_Hammer

    Fels_Hammer Jedi Grand Master

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    Blue=Guardian, Yellow=Sentinel, Green=Counselor
     
  22. Darth_Ziantor

    Darth_Ziantor Jedi Youngling star 3

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    I was just watching AOTC this afternoon, and in the giant arena battle w/ all of the Jedi, I could have sworn I saw some more purple lightsabers. Can anybody confirm this, or is my TV colorization screwed up?
     
  23. Kakkaraun

    Kakkaraun Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Yeah, that's a good idea. Let's take the meanings from a videogame instead of the philosophical ideas that permeate the films.

    The fact that said videogame is based on the d20 SW RPG also precludes it from meaning anything, because anything related to d20 or WotC is not only intrinsically wrong, but should be purged from almost all human knowledge and history, save the occasional, weighty reference in tomes of might knowledge so that we can remember, forever: NEVER AGAIN, NEVER AGAIN.
     
  24. Darth_Ziantor

    Darth_Ziantor Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Reading "I, Jedi", and Gantoris has a purple blade, and he almost turned to the dark side, so the purple as balancing on the edge is believable
     
  25. RevaDurron

    RevaDurron Jedi Master star 5

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    You forgot silver. But other then that I agree on most parts.
     
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