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Lightsaber fighting Styles

Discussion in 'Star Wars Community' started by Naredhel13, Oct 10, 2004.

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  1. Naredhel13

    Naredhel13 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    In the DK Star Wars Insider books, it talks about the fighting styles...

    Style 1 - ?
    Style 2 - Elegant - used by Dooku
    Style 3 - Defensive - used by Obi Wan
    Style 4 - Powerful - used by Anakin
    Style 5 - ?
    Style 6 - ?
    Style 7 - Aggressive - used by Mace

    I think there are only 7, and I wondered if there was any more info on what fits in where and maybe if Sidious would use a new style that fits in with one of the ? marks above... So anyone got any input?
     
  2. Suzuki_Akira

    Suzuki_Akira Jedi Master star 7

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    Form I: Basic Form taught to Padawans
    Form II: Fencing style form, Dooku used it.
    Form III: Defensive against blasters, Obi-Wan uses it.
    Form IV: Acrobatic, Wushu-like form used by Qui-Gon and Yoda
    Form V: Powerful, aggressive, extremely Force-enhanced form used by Darth Vader, Luke(in ROTJ), and Saesee Tinn
    Form VI: Diplomats form, combination of III, IV, and V I think. Used perhaps by Leia.
    Form VII: A combination of all other forms, only complete when used with a set of manuevers called Vaapad. This is used by Mace Windu and Sora Bulq. This form can be used with one saber, two sabers(one normal sized and one short), and two normal sized sabers.
    Form VIII: Not official(yet) but a form I believe that Luke uses, that is a combination of all other forms including Form VII.
     
  3. Pellaeon-Firke

    Pellaeon-Firke Jedi Knight star 5

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    Form I
    known as Shii-Cho, this was the simplest form of lightsaber combat techniques studied by the Jedi Knights of the Old Republic, and was generally considered the first form used by the original creators of ligthsabers. Sometimes called the ideal form, Form I used horizontal side-swipes and parries made with the blade of the lightsaber held upright to push the point of an enemy's blade away during a side-to-side attack. If the attack is a downward slash aimed at the head, Form I simply reversed the motion, with a horizontally-held lightsaber being moved up and down to deflect a blow. All the basic ideals of attack, parry, target zones, and practice drills were created with the Form I style.

    Form II
    known as Makashi, this ancient Jedi Knight lightsaber combat technique was developed when pikes and staves were more common in the galaxy. Form II emphasized fluid motion and anticipation of a weapon being swung at its target, allowing the Jedi to attack and defend with minimal effort. Although many Jedi historians considered Form II to be the ultimate refinement in lightsaber-to-lightsaber combat, it was dropped in favor of Form III combat when blaster weapons became prevalent in the galaxy.

    Form III known as Soresu, this was a lightsaber dueling technique developed by the Jedi Knights, after blaster weapons became the normal weapon of choice among criminals and underworld beings. Unlike Form II combat, which was developed to work against another lightsaber, Form III was most effective in anticipating and deflecting blaster fire. It stressed quick reflexes and fast positional transition, in order to overcome the rapidity with which a blaster could be fired. It was essentially a defensive technique, emphasizing the non-aggressive Jedi philosophy while reducing the exposed areas of their bodies. In the wake of the death of Qui-Gon Jinn at the hands of Darth Maul, many Jedi turned away from the Form IV style of open, acrobatic fighting and took up Form III in order to minimize the risk of injury or death at the hands of an opportunistic opponent.

    Form IV
    known as Ataru, this was one of the more recent lightsaber combat techniques, developed by the Jedi Knights during the last decades of the Old Republic. It emphasized acrobatic strength and power in wielding the blade, attributes which were frowned upon by many traditional Jedi Knights and Masters. It found a niche among the eager padawan learners of the time, who believed that the Jedi needed to become more involved in rooting out crime and evil and eradicating it. This Form was practiced by Qui-Gon Jinn, although his death at the hands of Darth Maul exposed the weakness of Form IV in defending a Jedi's body. Yoda, however, practiced Form IV with such speed that, when coupled with his small size, left an enemy with no undefended parts of his body.

    Form V
    known as Shien, this was one of the seven primary forms of lightsaber combat developed by the Jedi Knights of the Old Republic. Form V was developed by a group of Jedi Masters who felt that Form III was too passive, while Form IV was not powerful enough. It addressed the shortcomings of both forms, in which a Jedi Master may have proved to be undefeatable but could not overcome the enemy. Among the many unique aspects of Form V was the development of techniques in which the lightsaber was used to deflect a blaster bolt directly back at the firer, deliberately to cause harm to the opponent. Many Jedi Masters debated the philosophy of Form V, claiming that it directed inappropriate focus on hurting another being. Others claimed that Form V was simply a way to "achieve peace through superior firepower."

    Form VI
    known as Niman, this was one of the most advanced of the seven primary forms of lightsaber combat developed by the Jedi Knights of the Old Republic. At the time of the Battle of Geonosis, Form VI was the standard in Jedi fighting techniques, emphasizing the use of techniques from Forms I, II, IV, and V in overall moderation. Many Jedi Masters considered it the "diplomat's form", since the u
     
  4. darth_nemisis

    darth_nemisis Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Here is another description of each:

    Form I

    Millennia before the Empire, advanced technology replaced metal swords with lightsabers. It was during this transition that Form I was created. Jedi Masters created Form I from ancient sword-fighting traditions, since the principles of blade combat remained much the same. The basics of attack, parry, body target zones, and the practice drills called velocities are all here.

    Form II

    The ultimate refinement of lightsaber-to-lightsaber fighting became Form II, advancing the precision of blade manipulation to it's finest possible degree and producing the greatest dueling masters the galaxy has ever seen. Today Form II is an archaism studied by almost no one in the Jedi Order, because it's not relevant to currant tactical situations, as most lightsaber battles are now lightsaber-to-blaster. Even with the resurgence of the Sith, confrontation of an enemy with a lightsaber is an exceedingly rare prospect for a Jedi. So, they continue to focus on more practical Forms. Sith expecting to battle a Jedi, however, find Form II a powerful technique.

    Practised by: Count Dooku

    Form III

    The third great lightsaber discipline was first developed in response to the advancement of blaster technology in the galaxy. As these weapons spread widely into the hands of evil-doers, Jedi had to develop unique means of defending themselves. Form III thus arose from
    "laserblast" deflection training. Over the centuries it has transcended this origin to become a highly refined expression of non-aggressive Jedi philosophy. Form III maximizes defensive protection in a style characterized by tight, efficient movements that expose minimal target area compared to the relatively open style of some of the other Forms. True Form III masters are considered invincible.

    Practised by: Obi-wan Kenobi

    Form IV

    Form IV is the acrobatic Form, heavily emphasizing Jedi abilities to run, jump, and spin in phenomenal ways by using the Force. Masters of Form IV incorporate all of the ways in which the Force helps them go beyond what is physically possible. Their lightsaber combat is astonishing to watch, filled with elaborate moves in the center of which a Jedi may be all but a blur.

    Practised by: Master Yoda

    Form V

    During an era when Jedi were called upon to more actively maintain the peace in the galaxy, Form V arose alongside Form IV to address a a need for greater power among the Jedi. Jedi Masters who felt that Form III could be too passive for developed Form V. A Form III master might be undefeatable, but neither could he necessarily overcome his enemy. Form V focuses on strength and lightsaber attack moves. This Form exploits the ability of the lightsaber to block a blaster bolt and turns this defensive move into an offensive attack by deflecting the bolt deliberately towards an opponent. A dedication to the power and strength necessary to defeat an enemy characterizes the philosophy of Form V, which some Jedi describe by the maxim "peace through superior firepower." To some Jedi Knights, Form V represents a worthy discipline prepared for any threat; to others, Form V seems to foster an inappropriate focus on dominating others.

    Anakin is learning this Form.

    Form VI

    In the time of Palpatine's Chancellorship, Form VI is the current standard in Jedi lightsaber training. This Form balances the emphases of other Forms with overall moderation, in keeping with the Jedi quest to achieve true harmony and justice without resorting to the rule of power. It is considered the "diplomat's Form" because it is less intensive in it's demands than the other disciplines, allowing Jedi to spend more time developing their skills in perception, political strategy, and negotiation. In practice, Form VI is a combination of Forms I, III, IV, and V. Young Jedi spend their first few years studying Form I and then a year or two with each additional Form before completing their training. By comparison, a Form VI master will spend at least ten years studying only that Form after completing b
     
  5. Evil Incarnate

    Evil Incarnate Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Nemisis, Anakin is a Form IV in AOTC! ;)

    But Darth Vader is a Form V in ESB! ;)

    Luke Uses form V in ESB and ROTJ, he doesn't get his form VII like skillz till almost the NJO! ;)

    Evil.
     
  6. darth_nemisis

    darth_nemisis Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    this isn't my work, I got it from another thread about the same topic!;)

    This one

    So you might want to lock this one

    [face_skull]darth_nemisis[face_skull]
     
  7. Pellaeon-Firke

    Pellaeon-Firke Jedi Knight star 5

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    Nemisis, Anakin is a Form IV in AOTC!

    Nope, it's V. Watch the scene (with one saber vs. Dooku) again. He's using hard overhand slashes, without much acrobatics. That would make it Form V.

    Plus, IIRC Pablo said that Anakin was using V.
     
  8. Evil Incarnate

    Evil Incarnate Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    IT says FOrm IV in the AOTC Visual Dictionary!

    Evil.
     
  9. Pellaeon-Firke

    Pellaeon-Firke Jedi Knight star 5

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    *mutters something obscene about continuity*

    Well, think about it this way. Which style does Anakin's AotC most resemble: Vader's, or Yoda and Qui-Gon's?
     
  10. Evil Incarnate

    Evil Incarnate Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Seems like Qui-Gon's to me, and his is Form IV ;)

    Evil.
     
  11. Naredhel13

    Naredhel13 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Thanks for the responses :D Really grateful, ta!
     
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