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  1. clone3131

    clone3131 Jedi Master star 4

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    I was thinking about lightspeed today - not really too sure why ;)

    But, I think the star field shot was one of those iconic shots in the OT. To my recollection, I believe the Falcon is the only ship we have seen with that shot. I can not remember a specific shot in the PT that had a whipping star field from the interior of a ship, nor another ship from the OT that you saw the star field. Maybe in Jedi, from the stolen shuttle, but not sure. It would have been cool to see it from a view of an x-wing though ;)

    Do you think we will get the star field shot in other vehicles in the ST? I think it is almost certain. But I wonder if JJ will handle lightspeed the same way? I know in the Star Trek films, for warp speed, he does the blue swiping light behind the ship. Which is pretty cool. I wonder if he will bring elements of that into Star Wars?

    I also wonder if you will see a lightspeed pursuit - and maybe battle - like you saw in Star Trek Into Darkness.

    Cool things....

    [face_peace]

    -C
     
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  2. The Hellhammer

    The Hellhammer Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    From what I recall, hyperspace in Star Wars does not allow for much interaction between ships when they travel at lightspeed. For one, it's very hard to calculate where the ship is heading, how fast and along which trajectory. Even if you knew all this, the speeds are so mind-numbingly great that the ship following would have to jump pretty much at the exact same microsecond in order to follow it's quarry. That, or be noticeably faster in order to catch up with it. Otherwise, I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be such a big deal when the Falcon jumps into hyperspace at the last moment - they could have easily anticipated that and had ships standing by to follow them and engage them in hyperspace.
    Star Trek's warp has a bit of a different approach with it's warp drive. It is possible to follow, engage, communicate and otherwise interact with ships traveling at warp speed. This is something that has been established in numerous episodes and movies. It is damn hard to do, but it is possible.
     
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  3. clone3131

    clone3131 Jedi Master star 4

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    Agreed. But Boba followed the Falcon pretty easily...

    -C
     
  4. Bazinga'd

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    Is hyperspace an absolute like light speed or are there different factors, i.e., warp speed? If its the former, unless two ships jump at the exact moment there isno theoretical way a second ship can catch up to the first while in hyperspace. I dont think an analogy like terminal velocity would apply either because it is a relative value based on a number of physics.
     
  5. Mange

    Mange Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Sorry to nitpick, but we saw it from inside the Home One in ROTJ as well as the Alliance fleet entered hyperspace.

    [quote="clone3131"}Do you think we will get the star field shot in other vehicles in the ST? I think it is almost certain. But I wonder if JJ will handle lightspeed the same way? I know in the Star Trek films, for warp speed, he does the blue swiping light behind the ship. Which is pretty cool. I wonder if he will bring elements of that into Star Wars?

    I also wonder if you will see a lightspeed pursuit - and maybe battle - like you saw in Star Trek Into Darkness.
    [/quote]
    I hope to see the hyperspace effect again, but battle? Not so much...
     
  6. Bazinga'd

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    If you are talking about following the Falcon after the garbage jetison, that brings up an interesting question, doesnt it.
     
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  7. clone3131

    clone3131 Jedi Master star 4

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  8. Iron_lord

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    Han in ANH: "She'll make point five past lightspeed"

    Which, in the EU, was clarified as actually being vastly faster than 1.5 times the speed of light (1.5x the speed of light, being 450,000 km per second.)
     
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  10. Bazinga'd

    Bazinga'd Saga / WNU Manager - Knights of LAJ star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    Do we have any non-EU Canon as to what is hyperspace. :p

    Off topic, I view Han's boast about making "point five past lightspeed" akin to the the modern day size matters argument.
     
  11. LordGarthNader

    LordGarthNader Jedi Knight star 1

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    Wasn't the Falcon unable to go into hyperspace since it was damaged?
     
  12. clone3131

    clone3131 Jedi Master star 4

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    Very good point...
     
  13. Iron_lord

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    Nope- the movies say nothing about what hyperspace is- they only show that it's where a ship goes when it "makes the jump to lightspeed."
     
  14. swcolts1277

    swcolts1277 Jedi Master star 2

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    Yep, we just see it from the Falcon, shuttle Tydirium, and the Home One. GL didn't put it in the prequels because he wanted the surprise and suspense of a hyperspace jump to be seen when you get to the OT.
     
  15. crescenstar

    crescenstar Jedi Youngling

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    of course we are going to see lightspeed! =).... WITH LENS FLARE.... also theres a blue warpspeed like thing when you're travelling at lightspeed!

    [​IMG]
     
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  16. DARTHVENGERDARTHSEAR

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    I noticed that there are two different kinds of space travelling engines on a ship. One is the hyperdrive, and the other is the sublight speed drive (I think that's what it's called), which is what a ship has for a backup in case the former fails. It isn't warp speed, but it's fast enough to limp a ship to a safe haven for repairs. I think this is what was demonstrated in TESB and TPM, explaining why it took so long (probably weeks, if not days) to get to their destinations.
     
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  17. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord 50x Wacky Wed/3x Two Truths/28x H-man winner star 10 VIP - Game Winner

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    Considering how slow the Speed of Light is relative to the distance between star systems, sublight isn't really enough.

    "Backup hyperdrive" was the EU's first answer to the TESB issue.

    Though the problem of "why did he spend so long trying to repair the main one" still exists, it can partially be resolved by the fact that, at least in the Falcon's case, the backup hyperdrive was incomplete and needed parts from the main one to work at all (Millennium Falcon Owners Workshop Manual).
     
  18. Beezer

    Beezer Jedi Master star 4

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    It's adorable how people try to bring real-world physics into the Star Wars universe... Lightsabers? OK! The Force? OK! Telepathy? No problem! Gravity in space? Sure thing! A battle station that can destroy planets? No problemo! Force ghosts? Bring 'em on!

    But don't you dare try to have a ship go from one planet to another without a hyperdrive!!
     
  19. Pasjo_Kynrid

    Pasjo_Kynrid Jedi Master star 2

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    Uhhh...Obi Wan's Jedi Fighter en route to Utapau with the Hyperdrive ring?
     
  20. Iron_lord

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    Most of those (artificial gravity, telepathy, superweapons, etc) appeared in sci-fi before there was a Star Wars movie.

    Indeed, the existence of "hyperdrive" at all, is a nod to the fact that without it, real-world physics makes long-distance travel problematic.
     
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  21. Darth Chiznuk

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    There was originally a scene inside the cockpit of the Naboo cruiser just after it leaves Tatooine in TPM that showed the hyperspace jump but it was either unfilmed or GL cut it from the film. I think it was to preserve the moment from the original film and keep it as the first time we see it. Anyway, I missed it in the prequels and I'd love to see it come back. I can just imagine the chills I'd get seeing Han in the pilot's seat of the Falcon again as it goes into hyperspace. :D
     
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  22. clone3131

    clone3131 Jedi Master star 4

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    Uhhhh...you didnt actually see it in hyperspace, it just *disappeared* into hyperspace.


    -C
     
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  23. swcolts1277

    swcolts1277 Jedi Master star 2

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    Yeah, I meant from the cockpit.
     
  24. Darth_Articulate

    Darth_Articulate Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I really hope the ST goes the plaid :)
     
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