Lil' Cease Says He's No Snitch For Testifying Against Kim

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NEW YORK ? Lil' Cease says he just didn't have a choice.

If you're from the streets, one of the most honored codes is that you don't tell, especially not on your friends. And although he testified against his estranged friend Lil' Kim in her perjury trial, he maintains he's not a snitch.

"Being that Kim took the case to trial, they subpoenaed all the witnesses," Cease said on Friday (see "Lil' Kim Found Guilty Of Lying To Grand Jury, Investigators"). "Me and Kim wasn't on good terms for the moment, and she made it clear to the world that she didn't want to have anything to do with me and my peoples. So she wasn't trying to call us to her defense. Being that we was witnesses there, the U.S. government subpoenaed us. And there's nothing you can do about that. When you're subpoenaed, you either come or they take your ass to jail. It's just that simple."

Cease said his appearance in court was the first time he had seen his onetime close friend in several years.

"All the Edited-- I been through, this is the first time that I've touched the stand. ... It was just sick. But at the end of the day ... that sh-- was like business," he said. "When [the feds] come in there, they're not playing. With this whole war on rap and these feds and this rap patrol, it's serious. They're looking for someone to make an example of." (For more on the alleged war on rap, check out our investigative report "Is The NYPD At War With Hip-Hop?")

Biggie's onetime hype man and best friend said the Queen Bee should have never taken her perjury case to trial and should have accepted a plea bargain. Cease described the case the prosecution presented as practically insurmountable.

"She's supposed to have caught the picture that they were trying to put [her] away," Cease vented. "But she felt like she could beat them, and I don't know what she was trying to do with that. These federal people knew everything. They had phone taps, they had the video cameras from the [shooting at Hot 97]. They had that all on tape. They had pictures, they had two-way messages. Remember, [the shooting] was in 2001. So they worked on it for about two or three years, and they pulled everybody in there. My peoples, Rock and Gutta, they copped out to the case once they knew they couldn't win it. Shorty thought she could take it further, and she did what she thought she had to do."

The new leader of the Junior M.A.F.I.A. said that despite Kim's conviction, he doesn't expect her to do much time because her record is "as clean as a virgin." Cease also made it clear that despite their ties being severed, he hates to see the woman he was once close to go to prison (see "Lil' Kim Won't Get Maximum Sentence, Expert Predicts").

"No matter what our situations, I didn't have no problems with her," he insisted. "My thing was she didn't call me to her defense, so I left it at that. She could have called me, she could have subpoenaed me as well, but it was the U.S. government that subpoenaed me. She don't mess with me and my dudes, so we kept our distance from them."


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He's a snitch, and he should just accept it. He's lost all street cred with this.

everton edit: You have to edit the whole word out.

 

hE'S GONNA GET SHOT.

 

I don't know about that...

 

I didn't read the whole thing because rap shenanigans boars me to tears, and infuriate me against humanity. With that said, are you calling this guy a snitch for NOT lying while under oath?

-P!-

 

50 Cent and Ja Rule are going to put aside their differences, and shoot him for snitching. Then their going to release a song about it. Then they'll release a new cover CD, where they cover all of Led Zeppelin's songs. Then they move to Massachusets, get married, move to Armenia, and live happily ever after.

 

No I'm calling him a snitch for SNITCHING.


You grow up in the hood, there's no talking to feds or else you a snitch, and that's just what he is.




EDIT best story ever.

 

Okay yeah, you ARE calling him a snitch for NOT lying while under federal oath in a court case.

Dude, he's not the guy who broke the law.... he did nothing wrong. My god the system worked. I feel so bad for her.

This guy is a rapper with integrity. It seems practically oxymoronic.

-P!-

 

Trell - I agree with you, very much so. It's so terrible that this guy actually obeyed the law, right?

50 Cent and Ja Rule are going to put aside their differences, and shoot him for snitching. Then their going to release a song about it. Then they'll release a new cover CD, where they cover all of Led Zeppelin's songs. Then they move to Massachusets, get married, move to Armenia, and live happily ever after.

Okay, I need that mob with pitchforks and torches again, where'd it go off to?

 

Assuming I get to poke Balrog again, I'm in.

-P!-

 

actually if he had any integrity, he wouldn't have said anything. Snitches have no integrity as far as I'm concerned.

 

Snitches have integrity.

 

Trell - That's one down, one rest of the mob - 1 left to go

AJ - wait, so he'd be an honest person(i.e. has integrity) if he lied under oath, and broke the law? How does that logic work?

 

Actually, the Fifth Amendment only protects you from testifying against yourself I believe. Therefore since this was not against himself, he had no legal choice but to tell the truth.

-P!-

 

Yeah cuz no one ever lies on the stand... but then again, look where lyin on the stand got Lil Kim.



EDIT: And Amos, stickin by the people who are your friends or were your friends is more important then the law.

 

Exactly. I read the actual article now, and it sound like they had a pretty open and shut case. Just what was this lil whatever guy supposed to do in order to get out of testifying?

EDIT: And Amos, stickin by the people who are your friends or were your friends is more important then the law.

In reading the article I got the impression that lying would have done nothing but get himself in legal trouble.

-P!-

 

So because other people lie under oath, it's okay for him to, as well? That's not how it works in real life


Edit:
EDIT: And Amos, stickin by the people who are your friends or were your friends is more important then the law.

I really can't believe that you actually think that. That's the most ludicrous thing I've ever heard in my life, no offense.

 

And Amos, stickin by the people who are your friends or were your friends is more important then the law.

Are you 15? Seriously, because you have a 15 year old's logic.

BTW, AJ, I *DID* grow up in the bad section of town. I *WAS* friends with all the crack dealers and thugs. And trust me when I tell you that any one of them would flip in a second if it meant not going to the pen. That's life, and all that talk about not rattin' your friends out is crap. It doesn't work that way.

 

I too lived in the hood once, and Cease did what he had to do. Also Cease hasn't seen or talked to Kim in years, so they really aren't friends. He did the honorable thing and testified the truth. Kim was would have gotten the same sentence regardless if he didn't "snitch". I mean the prosecuation had some of Kim enemies testifying against her already.

 

I mean the prosecuation had some of Kim enemies testifying against her already.

Then you just proved that he shouldn't have snitched in the first place. If she gonna do the same time regardless, then why rat out a one time friend?

 

Because he then could have been stuck doing time, on the same charges as her no less. Purjury, AKA lying under oath.

-P!-

 

This is just a Lil confusing

dkt

 

Okay, I need that mob with pitchforks and torches again, where'd it go off to?

*knocks door*

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Din anyone request our presence?

 

"Sticking with your friends"??


If you really care about your friends, then you will tell the truth. A friend isn't someone who tells you what you want to hear, a friend is someone who isn't afraid to tell you when you're wrong.

 

Then you just proved that he shouldn't have snitched in the first place. If she gonna do the same time regardless, then why rat out a one time friend?



Because he has his own life to lead. It's not his fault she lied.

 

Lil' Cease Says He's No Snitch For Testifying Against Kim

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