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Linguistics and Sith Names (Betrayal Spoilers)

Discussion in 'Literature' started by dp4m, Jun 16, 2006.

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  1. dp4m

    dp4m Mr. Bandwagon star 10

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    Verger

    1) One who carries the verge or other emblem of authority before a scholastic, legal, or religious dignitary in a procession.
    2) One who takes care of the interior of a church and acts as an attendant during ceremonies.

    Verge

    1 a (1) : a rod or staff carried as an emblem of authority or symbol of office (2) obsolete : a stick or wand held by a person being admitted to tenancy while he swears fealty b : the spindle of a watch balance; especially : a spindle with pallets in an old vertical escapement c : the male intromittent organ of any of various invertebrates

    Of course, there's the verb-y form of Verge as well:

    1 : to be contiguous
    2 : to be on the verge or border

    Or, then of course there's the ACTUAL Latin etymology of Vergere (to bend, incline):

    1 a of the sun : to incline toward the horizon : SINK b : to move or extend in some direction or toward some condition
    2 : to be in transition or change

    Which leads us to:

    Vectivus

    Now, there's not a set definition to apply here. Reminiscent of "vector," this word is still slightly different. However, given the linguistics involved there may be another reason for the usage: it may be exactly the degree between "vector" and "convective" -- the former being multi-layered in nuance and the latter being what transfers air/heat by convection. Convection, of course, deriving from the Latin "to bring together." Vector is an interesting word, with the following meanings:

    1 a : a quantity that has magnitude and direction and that is commonly represented by a directed line segment whose length represents the magnitude and whose orientation in space represents the direction; broadly : an element of a vector space b : a course or compass direction especially of an airplane
    2 a : an organism (as an insect) that transmits a pathogen b : POLLINATOR a

    Or in the transitive sense as a verb:

    1 : to guide (as an airplane, its pilot, or a missile) in flight by means of a radioed vector
    2 : to change the direction of (the thrust of a jet engine) for steering

    So, assuming for the moment that Darth Vectivus is NOT Jacen Solo and is some apparition of unknown origin, what we have here is:

    Someone who's name means to bend or incline with etymological roots indicating that she moves things in some direction or toward some condition training Jacen Solo, who then is contacted by someone who's etymological roots can roughly be analagous to "Light-bringer" (Lumiya) to bring him to someone who's name means to both transmit a pathogen and to change the direction of Jacen Solo via transfer of heat.

    Thesaurus: Heat -> Ardor -> Passion (all synonyms for one another) [Literal Synonym for "heat": depth of feeling]

    Peace is a lie. There is only passion.
    Through passion I gain strength.
    Through strength I gain power.
    Through power I gain victory.
    Through victory my chains are broken.


    Yeah... that's pretty cool. I think I may have to give Lucasbooks more credit than I had previously with their thought processes... :)
     
  2. Lord Vivec

    Lord Vivec Chosen One star 10

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    That's pretty cool. Shows that LFL is thinking about what names they give the sith. It shows that they put a lot of thought into LOTF.
     
  3. Darth_Angle

    Darth_Angle Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Lets hope we're saying this after book 9. I like the idea that there is some connection between a Sith Lord and their name.
     
  4. Havet_Storm

    Havet_Storm Jedi Master star 3

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    and there was me thinking it was serived from Vivisect. Good work!
     
  5. dp4m

    dp4m Mr. Bandwagon star 10

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    Well, there's the standard theory of Darth names in Palpatine' line requiring the "in-" prefix (Insidious, Invader, etc.) which would make him Invective, which is a whole different ballgame:

    of, relating to, or characterized by insult or abuse

    1 : an abusive expression or speech
    2 : insulting or abusive language : VITUPERATION

    But I think it's much cooler if it's a variation of CONvective, given the joining/bridging nature of the dynamic with Jacen...
     
  6. -myndonos-

    -myndonos- Jedi Youngling star 1

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    nice. :cool:
     
  7. Lank_Pavail

    Lank_Pavail Jedi Knight star 7

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    And they say that there's no depth to Star Wars... :p

    Nice job, dp. =D=
     
  8. Lord Vivec

    Lord Vivec Chosen One star 10

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    lol.[face_laugh] I was thinking the same thing!
     
  9. iamobiwan1970

    iamobiwan1970 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Thanks! I'd been trying to put this together too. I'm not sure the authors have actually given their names this much thought. And Vader I always thought was a corruption of Father: Darth Vader = Dark Father

    I keep thinking Jacen is Vectivus and I see it as Vector : cange or direction. Thanks for the info on Vergere's Latin roots! Cool!

     
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