Logray removed?

Ok, been doing some research on the OS for another thread and I came across something I've never heard before. According to the OS databank, Logray was removed as the shaman/medicine man for the Bright Tree Village Ewoks about the time of Endor. Now as he is the village's shaman when the hero's are captured by the Ewoks in RoTJ, it had to be after Luke's little demonstration and probably after the actual battle. But when did it take place and where is it recorded that Chief Chirpa removed him and placed Paploo in his place? It's in the EU part of the Logray entry, so I'd expect it is in one of the various EU sources.

 

That event came from a galaxy guide if the refrence to it, and the bibilography in the "Official Star Wars Encyclopedia", were any indication, IIRC. It was a post battle of endor event, a few years later, IIRC.

I always wondered why Teebo didn't get the position, since he was being groomed for it in the Ewok tv show. Teebo wasn't killed was he(I frankly am not very good at telling which ewok is which with exception of Wicket, Logray, and a few others in ROTJ)?

 

A few year later? that would have to mean Threepio was visiting Endor for Paploo to get him to help lift the curse Logray placed on the village. But you've just given me all the more reason to try and get my hands on all the Galaxy Guides.

 

The galaxy guides followed Lucas's original write up which had Logray as a mean little git instead of a noble man.

I was of the mind though that Teebo was killed in the Battle of Endor (see the shot we linger on)?

Thus the Ewolks cartoon has a sad ending.

Teebo is killed, Logray falls prey to the dark side, and only Wickett and the Princess have anything of happily ever after

 

So I was looking in Guide to Star Wars, and it says teebo was the grey striped furred ewok in the movie. So how in the world did he go from brown furred to striped furred over the years ?

 

But Logray would appear to already be under the sway of the dark side at least by the end of the cartoon series if not during it. He was already practicing dark magic by the time RoTJ began from what I gathered from the OS and the EGtC.

 

He seemed pretty honorable in the cartoon series, when I watched the actual episodes. None of the things he did in the show were, "dark side powers". At least none of the kinds listed in the sourcebooks, if he did any.

Well Logray's entry on starwars.com, appears to set when it took place a bit more than the Encyclopedi, and guide to star wars does;

"Some of Logray's rituals involved animal sacrifice, and Wicket and the other young Ewoks often spoke out against these acts. As Logray grew older, he became increasingly strict and bullied those that opposed him. For his protests, Logray banished Wicket from all Ewok rituals. It was during the Battle of Endor that Logray was seen for the bully that he was. Chirpa removed Logray as medicine man, appointing Paploo to the role. Enfuriated, Logray placed a curse on the village that Paploo convinced the Golden One, C-3PO, to remove. Now, Logray's name has been stricken from all the village's songs of remembrance. To the Ewok villagers, he never existed."

That's actually pretty depressing considering how nice and honorable he was in the cartoon series, and totally against the dark arts (he had to banish a former apprentice because he was Evil, according to one episode).

 

Maybe Teebo got a dye job

 

Teebo's look in the cartoon show and his book is not meant to be representative of his exact markings (you can find a picture of him from the film in the Illustrated Dictionary.) In the cartoon, Wicket, Logray, Paploo, and Chirpa don't look much like they do in the film either. In fact, in the Adventures of Teebo book, all the Ewoks look more or less alike. It's a stylistic thing. According to the novelization of ROTJ, Teebo and Wicket are the Ewoks that accompany Chewie when he commandeers the AT-ST. I'll have to check the Dictionary and watch the movie again to see if Teebo actually dies ( I don't think so.)

TC

 

Well, in the movie, its a blond and black Ewok that accompany Chewie, not Wicket and Teebo. I don't think these two have ever been officially named.

If you want pics of all the Ewoks, check out http://decipher.com/starwars/cardlists/endor/light/index.html.

Teebo--gray and black stripes, wears gurreck (boar thing) skull with churi (bird thing) feathers. Ewok warleader.

Paploo--brown Ewok with a red feather in his hood.; scout, like Wicket; rides Imperial Bike in movie

To my knowledge, niether died in ROTJ.

Yeah, Logray was a cool dude in the cartoons. I always thought Chirpa seemed more the type to fall to the Darkside. You'd think Wicket would show more respect to his old mentor who saved his life numerous times, and not be such an Animal Rights Extremist. I mean, if it makes a poor old man happy to slaughter a few ruggers, just leave the poor dude alone and bring a barf bag to festivals.

 

Teebo and Wicket are not the ewoks that help Chewie pilot the AT-ST, despite the novelization.

However, the names of those two ewoks have not been officially given. Getting them named has been an objective of mine.

 

Actually if you want to incorporate things its most likely that this is the "galactic history" version of events.

In the Movie Sourcebook material Teebo becoming Logray's apprentice was after Wicket had been rejected for the position for the animal rights bit...which means that it was before the Ewolks cartoon when they were children.

As portrayed in the cartoon this means that it really wasn't that big of a deal.

However the bullying part is a curious one and I always wondered what the Ewolk cartoon perspective of the Battle for Endor would be.

If you ask me what really would have gotten Logray banished was the old coot seeing through those left winged militants attempts to Cortez them

 

"Chirpa don't look much like they do in the film either"

Actually he was brown furred in season one, and was grey haired by season 2. He was gray haired in the film, .

So I don't see anything out of the ordinary for ewoks to change fur color, perhaps it's a seasonal thing like ferrets.

All logray had to do to look different between the show and the movie(by the way there were action figures for both versions), was lose his blue robe, and trim his beard.

 

People looking for white ewok coats therefore should only trap ewoks during winter.

 

...Or, kill Kneesa during the summer, .

 

Valiento: that's not exactly what I mean. When you interpret something for a cartoon, it won't match up exactly with the live-action original. Take Threepio in Droids, or (to some extent) Yoda in Clone Wars.

Charlemagne, Wicket was banished after the cartoon show and movies. TEGTC suggests that, because of his many brushes with dark magic, Wicket began to distrust magic in general. This is another good reason for Wicket to distance himself from his former mentor, but it doesn't really explain Logray's vindicitiveness.

TC

 

Threepio mostly matches up with his movie analog just drawn. Both versions are even the same color, . Threepio does not have season changing fur colors, .

Yoda in clone wars is short and green, that's corresponds to his movie counterpart pretty good, .

 

Well Wicket if he did have "force potential" might have actually had Logray just downright angry that his wonderful contributions to Ewolk culture are ignored by a headstrong young warrior.

Not to mention one who was a personal friend to Wickett.

Like Obi wan and Anakin to a certain extent its possible Logray and Wickett split because he wanted to teach him a lesson and it backfired by making Wickett angry.

Though given Logray had real magic, I question what exactly threepio could do to remove a curse

 

Well, as the Ewoks viewed him as a god.... Though maybe Logray used some language Palpoo didn't know and he wanted a translator. I mean, surely there must be an even older Ewok dialect that Logray may have learned somehow. He was suppose to be a warrior before he became the medicine man/shaman for the tribe, but so was Palpoo. So he had to have had a teacher to teach him all he'd need to know for the job.

 

Does the fact that Threepio understands Ewokese indicatte past encounters of Galactic Civilization with Ewoks (Aurra Sing comics and the TOTJ teddy bear come to mind).

 

My theory is Threepio's six million forms of communication simply indicates that he is familiar with so many dialects and so forth that he's able to find the closest analog in nearly every case.

Hence why he understood the Yuuzhan Vong, its just really wild coincidence that the Vong langage is similar to another one but Threepio is programmed to pick up the clues to figure out what he means