Luke's Holocron

Has Luke or any of his jedi created a holocron? Or is that still an art lost?

 

I think there haven't been holocrons created by Jedi since the beginning of the Order, but I'm not sure...

 

I thought that the Vector Prime commercial was supposedly and entry in the Skywalker Holocron. Or is that just fan speculation?

 

It's entirely possible that some of the Jedi from the old order created a Holocron.

 

They have the knowledge to make one. I think in the Essential Guide to the Force it said that Quinlan Vos was the last known Jedi maker of a holocron, but i'd imagine that Luke and a few others in his order would make a few. Krayt made one, so the knowledge isn't lost..

 

The knowledge behind the Sith holocrons seems to be a little bit different, considering Bane's problem in creating one. One has to ask whether Krayt's holocron is really a classic Sith holocron with a Sith gatekeeper that is much more than the gatekeeper in Jedi holocrons, or did Krayt just create a version of a Jedi holocron and filled it with Sith knowledge?

 

Their can't be too many differences in the creation of a Jedi or Sith holocron, other than the infusion of good or evil energies into the device..

I'm thinking that the Jedi reverse-engineered or designed their holocrons from Rakatan and sith holocrons..

 

I agree.

 

The only demonstrated difference between the holocrons is the fact that Sith Holocrons appear to be able to affect the material world to an extent.

Well that and the fact that Sith Holocrons appear to have bits of a sith spirits in them. I doubt the Jedi would mutilate their souls to create holocrons.

Which might on it's own be enough to explain the difference and why Sith holocrons seem capable of so much more independant action.

 

Is there a source that shows the diffrences?

 

The Sith spirit bits comes from The Sith war when Kun used the remnant spirits in the holocron to corrupt a bunch of Jedi.

The acting on their own thing can clearly be seen in Legacy with the three Krayt is consulting accelerate his condition briefly.

 

o ok, so what keeps the jedi from creating holocrons like the sith? It can't be taht diffrent.

 

The knowleadge had been lost to the jedi and very few seemed to include how to contruct a holocron with in the holocrons themselves...

 

Since thanks to Jedi VS Sith it's now canon that the Jedi recovered the Great holocron if writers ever decide to use a Luke created Holocron they'll probably just say how to create it was found in the Great Holocron.

 

I thought Holocrons were originally a lost art by Luke's time, as either the post-Ruusan Jedi had lost the techniques to make something that advanced (since like in the JAT most of Luke's Holocrons were millenia old), or that the technique had been destroyed during the Jedi Purge. Holocrons seemed more like the unbelievable technology that they had popping up during the TotJ era. Some Sith Holocrons remain too, since we see Krayt consulting with three of them, but they're... less than helpful, to say the least, and are able to affect Krayt somewhat too.

It would be cool to have Luke leave a Holocron though. That'd be interesting. Though Luke's Force ghost already sorta fills that role. Or mabye Luke's Force ghost is actually a projected hologram from the Skywalker Holocron somewhere directly into Cade's brain! Ok, that's a bit too farfetched.

Sith Holocrons seem inherently evil anyway with the disturbing ability to affect people, and not just manipulate them. The Jedi Order had collected some of them, but Palpatine probably got them when the clones raided the Temple.

Have any prequel era Jedi even made any Holocrons? The JvS guide says what they think is the Great Holocron has records from prequel era Jedi, but can't remember if it said any of them had made their own Holocron.

 

Quinlan Vos made a holocron, as jadenkorr81 said earlier..

 

Wasn't a true holocron. Glorified diary.

 

The Sith Holocrons in the Temple were fakes according to Dark Lord.

 

JVS mentions that the NJO had the Great Holocron. They also had Arca Jeth's Holocron, so they probably had the knowledge to make holocrons, or to just record to the Great Holocron.

 

Diary or not, it was still a holocron. Anyways, Darth Vectivus's holocron was pretty much a business manual, but it's still a holocron. The manner in which it was built is the important thing in this case, in my opinion, not what information that was stored on the holocron itself.

 

The remaining Sith holocrons were fakes as of Dark Lord. However, Dooku broke into the Temple and stole at least one during the Clone Wars, so odds are that one was real.

Re: Quin - it only recorded what he talked into it. It had no personality, no Gatekeeper. It didn't do anything R2-D2 couldn't do, and Quin didn't even make it.

 

This absolutely baffled me. Kun destroyed the most important Sith holocron ever. The trade off was destroy it and create a few Jedi minions or learn from the thousands of years of Sith knowledge within. As a Sith I think I'd be a little more pragmatic than Kun was.

 

As I said before, only the construction method matters, not the contents.

 

The construction method certainly doesn't matter because Quinlan explicitly didn't make it.

 

It may matter to whoever decides to try to make a holocron regardless of who made it.