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Magnaguard Colors

Discussion in 'Literature' started by darthsith19, Jan 5, 2006.

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  1. darthsith19

    darthsith19 Jedi Master star 4

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    "Holowan Mechanicals made several MagnaGuard models, distinguished by color: black, alabaster blue and the rare grey. Each two-meter-tall droid specializes in a form of combat."
    - ROTS Visual Dictionary


    I am wondering what each color droid specializes in cause the book doesn't say it just says each color droid spealizes in a form of combat. Does anyone know.


    The two Magnaguards that lasted the longest against Obi-Wan and Anakin on the Invisible Hand were both blue.That makes me think perhaps blue ones specialize at fighting Jedi.
     
  2. BobaMatt

    BobaMatt TFN EU Staff star 7 VIP

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    Could be, though I think they were all meant for that sort of melee fighting. I wonder if any are programmed with Teras Kasi.
     
  3. darthsith19

    darthsith19 Jedi Master star 4

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    I wonder if any are programmed with Teras Kasi.
    Goood question. Perhaps some are. Maybe if one of the colors specializes in unarmed combat that color knows Teras Kasi. But they were all trained by Grievous. Does Grievous know Teras Kasi?
     
  4. Rogue_Follower

    Rogue_Follower Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    There are also green and yellow variants, as seen the GBA Episode III video game.
     
  5. darthsith19

    darthsith19 Jedi Master star 4

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    Green and Yellow, huh? I have the GBA game, maybe I'll check sometime but either way I don't think they're official colors - the Cisual Dictionary's more official than the GBA Videogame and it doesn't list those colors.
     
  6. Rogue_Follower

    Rogue_Follower Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    They're the boss in the Utapau Caves level.

    Personally, I think that they were repainted, and the colors listed in the Visual Dictionary are just the basic factory-fresh colors.
     
  7. Adm_Thrawn

    Adm_Thrawn Jedi Padawan star 4

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    The colors denoted model. Black for the IG-100s, blue for the IG-101s, gray for the IG-102s, etc.
     
  8. Astral_Bug

    Astral_Bug Jedi Master star 1

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    Maybe the colors mean the same as with clone troopers. I don't think it has enything to do with specialization. They were all using saber-staffs, no unarmed combat, And they acted in groups (cw cartoon against shaak ti, for example), primary as GG bodyguards.

    They would have to be force-sensitive to use teras kasi, methinks. And GG wasn't one either.

    btw. Just watched ROTS the other day. When obi drops that cargo on gg magnaguards and then decapitates the last surviving one, the one's destroyed, not like that one on the Invisible Hand, where it still countinious to fight even without the head.
     
  9. BobaMatt

    BobaMatt TFN EU Staff star 7 VIP

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    The color denotes make and model.
    True, but didn't Grievous get Syfo-Dyas' blood?
    This has been addressed before, I think, because enough people complained about it. The one on the Invisible Hand still had enough fight in it, that is it was undamage enough, to continue to function ok without its head. The one on Utapau had just been crushed under a cargo box, so decapitation was the straw that broke the camel's back, so to speak.
     
  10. Kwenn

    Kwenn Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    "True, but didn't Grievous get Syfo-Dyas' blood?"

    Only in the Star Wars Visionaries story, which isn't entirely canon - the part with Sifo-Dyas isn't official, though I believe his image is taken to be canon for now. The full story of General Grievous will appear in the latest Insider. He's definately not a Force user.
     
  11. BobaMatt

    BobaMatt TFN EU Staff star 7 VIP

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    Well part of the reason I asked was because I thought the issue had been released already, so I was wondering if anyone could verify whether this was cannon or not. I know Grievous was not a Force user, but midichlorian infused blood could, theoretically, heighten his reflexes/speed/senses, as well as to some extent justify a non-Force user being a notorious Jedi killer, armed with lightsabers.
     
  12. Rogue_Follower

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    Does it even state that Grievous was getting Sifo's blood? All I remember is that Dooku comes up to the stasis pod and tells dead-Sifo-Dias that its time for a sample (of blood... [face_shame_on_you] )
     
  13. darthsith19

    darthsith19 Jedi Master star 4

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    They're the boss in the Utapau Caves level.
    Ah. But I don't think they exist since I don't think there's such a thing as Magnaguards with healing powers.

    The colors denoted model. Black for the IG-100s, blue for the IG-101s, gray for the IG-102s, etc.
    Then what's the difference between an IG-100, an IG-101 and an IG-102 and are those really the models and the colors that go with those models or were you just using an example?

    I don't think it has enything to do with specialization.
    So the visual dictionary is lying?

    They were all using saber-staffs, no unarmed combat, And they acted in groups (cw cartoon against shaak ti, for example), primary as GG bodyguards.
    Yeah but not all of them have staff's some have guns.



     
  14. 000

    000 Jedi Master star 4

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    Dooku's exact quote:

    "Are you ready for your blood tranfusion, Master Sifo-Dyas?"

    It's strongly implied the blood transfusion is for greevy, but it can definitely be ignored. He's talking to Poggle-- maybe Geonosians like frozen blood, and Dooku was gonna make him a midichlorian-infused smoothie.

     
  15. Rogue_Follower

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    See, this is why somebody needs to write an super-duper IG-series article (like the History of the Mandalorians...) which answers all these little questions. [face_batting] Its also possible that the NEGtDroids will have some good info.

    As for the "healing" droids, I would say that is just a gameplay mechanic.

    Just a mention, but Republic Commando has MagnaGuards with built-in missile-launchers.

    Edit: Thanks for the quote. Hopefully Abel will clear up the whole Sifo-blood oddity in the GG article. :)
     
  16. Adm_Thrawn

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    IG-100 is a generic term used to describe MagnaGuards as a whole. IG-101s and IG-102s, on the other hand, are two specific, and apparently different, models of MagnaGuards. IG-101s are blue. IG-102s are gray. Straight from the RotS visual dictionary.
     
  17. Kwenn

    Kwenn Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Actually, the RotS novel implies they're just individual droids (like IG-88). IG-101 and IG-102 are just names, not models.
     
  18. Adm_Thrawn

    Adm_Thrawn Jedi Padawan star 4

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    "Holowan Mechanics made several MagnaGuard models, distinguished by color: black, blue, and the rare gray."

    It then goes to show a picture of a blue MagnaGuard with the designation 'IG-101' at its feet and a gray one with the designation 'IG-102' at its feet. You're right. Could be interpreted either way.
     
  19. BobaMatt

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    Well, if numerics are any indicator, than IG88 came before the MagnaGuards. This makes some sense, as the joust droids from the CW cartoon are closer in design to IG88 thatn IG100, but what were the earlier model droids busy doing?
     
  20. Card_Dreamer

    Card_Dreamer Jedi Youngling star 3

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    From Ep3 Visual Dictionary:

    ...made several MagnaGuard models, distinguished by color: black, alabaster, blue and the rare gray. Each ... specializes in a form of combat and is equipped with an electrostaff or dedicated weapons, from grenades to rocket launchers.

    (I cut out at least the height info so I don't 100% direct copy as well as company name).

    they are the IG-series 100 MagnaGuard, so to me, that implies IG-101 (which I have seen in books, etc) is more or less just the name, with perhaps a subuse as just what # off the line they are? But not specific varient model #s.

    I guess to determine what color specializes in what, analyze what weapon they use most, and that's the weapon per color (though I would assume they all have BASIC training in multiple forms, much like a clone trooper).

    Also, might want to dmiss any we see in RotS movie (or any with headcloth/wrap) only because those are handpicked by Grevious as a select group. Though I'm sure there's diff colors, I would think by movie evidence that they are all equally trained in all fields since they all handled the Jedi fairly equal. (Also makes sense incase one fails, another can easily pick up where the other left off). Also, note that it says Electrostaff OR dedicated weapon. Implies they're given one or the other and don't do a whole lot of cross training otherwise. (also, IG-101 was blue while IG-102 was gray, but both weilded staffs against the Jedi on Invisible Hand, which would further support the special selected are fully training in multiple fields and don't specialize in 1 or another.
     
  21. Rogue_Follower

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    Well, at least one grey one isn't a very good shot, since it couldn't kill Ventress with a clone rifle in Obsession. (Though I suppose that could be because of the range or the condition of the weapon.)
     
  22. Adm_Thrawn

    Adm_Thrawn Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Condition of the weapon. DC-15s are notoriously inaccurate.
     
  23. Ph0enix

    Ph0enix Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I'm not sure if anyone's mentioned it, but the upcoming Grevious article in Insider will touch on the MagnaGuards...
     
  24. Adm_Thrawn

    Adm_Thrawn Jedi Padawan star 4

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    When's that slated to come out? It's been a while since the last issue came out.
     
  25. Ph0enix

    Ph0enix Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Newstands February 6, subscribers a few weeks earlier (mid to late January)

    We have a thread on it, and Abel will have an extended article in the Insider Online Supplement
     
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