Mandalorian History - Timeline

here's my try on it, with some assumptions made from apocrypha material as well. Post what you think and help me to add or correct the stuff, thx.

MANDALORIAN HISTORY - TIMELINE

Ancient times (until 1000 years BANH)
#Unnamed warrior alien species conquers an unnamed System and all of its worlds, renaming it after the glorious conqueror: MANDALORE
#From there their culture spreads conquering more systems, becoming the Mandalorians, creating Mandalorian Space covering multiple sectors in the Outer Rim and Wild Space
#The Leaders name was from then on a title given to the Leader of all Mandalorians, Lord Mandalore
#When a Sith Lord defeated the Lord Mandalore in a fair duel, the Mandalorians served as promised the Sith and attacked the Republic, even continuing after the Sith had been defeated (SITH WARS) starting the (MANDALORIAN WARS).
#Many warriors from lots of species were recruited and trained to the Mandalorians warrior code forming the Mandalorian Army out of lots of smaller Mandalorian Armies, and due to the fact many humans joined, soon the Mandalorians shall become a human dominated Army
#When the Mandalorians were defeated and capitulated after the MANDALORIAN WARS, their army was disbanded and their space annected into the republic
#Many former warriors became bounty hunters and smaller merc groups teamed up, while others became farmers or officers, journeyman protectors, etc.
#While 1 branch of Mandalorians joined official republic forces, later becoming the senate guards and royal guards, another became an merc army for hire continuing the mandalorian tradition becoming the new Mandalorians

Golden Age (until Galidraan Desaster)
#Mandalorian Merc Group was best Army for Hire in the galaxy
#Mandalorians split up into the True Mandalorians (Jaster Mereel) and Death Watch (Vizla) a darker more brutal group battling each other, but both ended at the battle of GALIDRAAN
#Arranged by a Sith Lord, the Mandalorians were lured into a trap and nearly completley destroyed by a Jedi Force
#Only few survived who left the Mandalorians before GALIDRAAN or were expelled. Last true Mandalorian was the sole survivor Jango Fett who became a Bounty Hunter.

Mandalorian Demise
#Jango had encounters with other former Mandalorians who were bad people now and killed them, making himself a name as best Bounty Hunter in the galaxy
#On orders of a Sith Lord, Jango was hired to be the template for a Clone Army for the Republic and under some conditions he agreed
#Clone Army created on Kamino and trained by Jango Fett and other warriors, some of them former Mandalorians, Jango personally selected and trained to be quasi Mandalorians now. His unaltered clone, and only son, Boba Fett shall become his heir, while he made sure some more independent clones (ARC) had special tutelage and instructions by himself
#CLONE WARS: The GAR Mandalorians fight for the republic while Jango died at separatist side killed by Jedi Master Mace Windu.

Mandalorian Hope
#Boba Fett became Jangos heir and best hunter of the galaxy
#Boba Fett for a short time teamed up with the "Mandalorian Trainers" of the Clone Army Jango had selected and several ARC Clones for a mission that went along with a hunter job. 212 Mandalorians fought and many were killed, only 3 survivors leaving the battle victorious. Boba continued his Bounty Hunter live while the two others returned to the Mandalore system trying to revive the Mandalorian culture without success. Some left to be bounty hunters as well.
#The Galactic Empire arose and the last rests of the GAR were killed and alongside recruited soldiers added to the Stormtrooper contingents, while the few surviving ARCs revolted, what had been called clone madness, and dissappeared.(note: some clones got mad for real, but these were few, like the Katana Fleet clones)
#Boba had a short relationship with fellow huntress Sintas and they had a son together, Boba Fetts only heir. He left his family for securing their protection while he earned lots of money for a sole purpose.

Mandalorian Return

 

#Boba had a short relationship with fellow huntress Sintas and they had a son together, Boba Fetts only heir. He left his family for securing their protection while he earned lots of money for a sole purpose.

Mandalorian Return
#With the money, retireing, Boba Fett finally became a family man and rebuild the Mandalorian Army, fullfilling his fathers dream. He trained his son and others, adding close friends and warriors to the list as well as the children, adults and other people in the whole galaxy, from Mandalore, or the lost ARCs,who were good enough to survive his training

I'll buy the relationship with Sintas and the resultant child, since that became canon in a Gamer issue. However, I am curious about your canon sources for: the child being male, Fett becoming a family man once again, and using the ARCs in his army? I would think the ARCs would be long dead by that point due to the clone aging treatment. And as far as I know the sex of Boba's child has not been revealed. And did the Gamer article declare they were actually married or that there was just a child? (I've never seen the Gamer article).
Also the part about Boba using his army to chase Han was Tales and therefore not canon. However, Star Wars Fact Files made the part that he had an army and trained them at one point on Raxus Prime (I think) canon.

 

Bobas Child: It looked male to me from what I saw in the comic, but I am not sure. If I recall right it had blue babydress?

What gamer do you refer to? Can´t remember that article.

For Boba retireing that was no official source but an assumption made out of the following facts:

In the Young Jedi Knights youth novel series he trained Zekk (former darksider and friend of Jaina Solo) in the Bounty Hunter arts like an apprentice.
Afterwards he wasn't seen anywhere in any sources until he showed up with an army. So he had to collect candidates and train them, that needs time, so I assumed he retired for the time the training took. (besides the rather weird fan theory of Bobas as Sernpidals major I never thought true).

As for the ARCs it is mostly my idea, but the following facts might proove it:

In a quote from the novel REPUBLIC COMMANDO: HARD CONTACT (lots of mandalorian language, chants, cultural information in this novel!), a retired ARC around the time of ANH tells some words to an interviewer retrospective. There is mentioned that there is a Center for retired clones. (the clone mentioned there is *quote* 23 years old and looks like 60)
I assumed that these, no longer needed for war, and too old to serve with stormtroopers, might have families. So there are two ways they could fit into Bobas new Mandalorian army:

1) their children and/or grandchildren might join Boba

2) the old ARCs if still alive might help train the recruits, not becoming warriors themselves. Maybe even some scientist invented a method that prevented the accelerated aging? then they might serve again.
Because I think if you can accelerate aging, why not slow it down as well? but that's my idea.

As for Boba Fett as a family man: That's an assumption because when he retires like I think he did for the short time, there is no longer a cause to be seperate from his family. He only left them because he wanted them to be safe and out of his enemies range. So he could combine training recruits and rejoining his family. Sintas was a good huntress herself and might help him and his son would make a good candidate as heir and trainee.

Thx for your questions.

Ceiran

 

Forgot one thing: Can't remember if Boba was married but every website I checked told so. But I don´t think it is official, though it would be nice.

 

Found another fact that makes the survival of few Clones possible: In HARD CONTACT, a clone tells a Jedi Padawan that the growth acceleration technique is an industrial secret of the kaminoans. And from other sources like the Thrawn trilogy we know that there were multiple cloning centers, f.e. Mount Tantis and Khomm. These operated independent from Kamino and only few Kaminoan scientists visited and checked the progress in cloning (as made canon in Insider, Gamer and HolonetNews articles).

So I conclude:
It is possible that some of these independent cloning centers involved in the CLONE WARS created clones without growth acceleration. And these could still live later on in the years, older but not as old as the other clones.
They would´ve been kids in the Clone Wars or youths, and that wouldn´t have been useful for the war purpose. But what if a secret project was started to have kids and youths as warriors, no one would them suspect to be enemies. In the Youth novel series about Boba Fett we see young clones moving with the older ones for training and accompanying them to major planets guarded by the Clone Army.

A little farfetched theory of me, but well, tell me what you think of it.

 

*Waits for Darth Mane to come and either applaud you on your excellent work or set you straight on something you got wrong.*

 

I was thinking Valiento myself but I haven't seen anything from him in awhile..
I was going to try to respond to more of the Boba items above. Maybe tomorrow - I got caught up after work and got home late.

 

I have neither time nor the energy to teach this one about the Mandalorians.

Yet, I do have a question. What of Fenn Shysa and his Mandalorian of Mandalore? Boba Fett isn't the Future of the Mandalorians, SHYSA is.

 

Fenn Shysa leads the Mandalorians of Mandalore in freeing Mandalore and fighting the Nagai and Tofs. So until given confirmed info, he is the leader.

If someone comes along and writes a story where he isn't, then fine. Yet last time we saw him, he was leading the Mandalorians of Mandalore. So he is the future,not Boba and a little group of Mercs.

In fact he would be in control for 30 years, pending if he's alive. IT took Mandalore that much time to get his armies rebuilt for the Mandalorian Wars, after the Sith War. So Fenn could possibily have a grand Mandalorian Army.

 

Fenn Shysa is no future for the Mandaloians, for he never achieved what Boba did and is no true heir to Mandalorian culture.

As I see it, to fit Marvel into all this, Fenn Shysa was no original MAndalorian, just a normal man, decendedt from a family that originally was MAndalorian. Jango choose him for his combat talent as one of the trainers for the clone army.

Later on Fenn Shysa, Boba Fett and others, making 212 Mandalorians (trainers and troops) did a mission for Palatine. He survived and tried to get the Mandalorians to another Golden Age, but he never managed it the big scale, like Boba Fett.

He formed a small army, but they wern't as skilled as the originals and needed some kind of Fett'ish powerup to join Bobas Forces.


You are right about Fenn Shysa starting the thing before Boba did (another Marvel did it first story, yep) but we never really heard of him and his troops again. I think they wanted to take back Mandalore, not become the legendary Mandalorians of old, like Boba had in mind. So given these different goals, Fenn Shysa and his Mandalorians did a great job, and Boba just had to finish it with his reinforcements and special training to bring them up to the old standarts.

Hope you won´t kill me for that, but... it needed both to get the Mandalorians back. I believe Boba could have done it alone, but not as fast as he did if not Fenn Shysa did lots of pre-work.

 

Boba Fett isn't a DAMN thing to the Mandalorians. Shysa freed Mandalore, and rebuilt it's army. He is the only one that cared, about the Mandalorians. Boba Ran away, plus he isn't from Mandalore. He's from Concord Dawn, which isn't apart of the Mandalore Sector. Mandalorian blood does not flow through his veins. He just wears the suit.

Fenn is the leader of the Mandalorian of Mandalore, Boba is just running a little merc group. So screw Boba, Shysa is the future, Always was.

Oh and how does it work? Well if Mandalore's army if not erased by this article enters the Clone War, so does Fenn Shysa(that's if he isn't erased or his story altered). He was part of the 212, and Boba has 6 or so months between his last book and EP3 to do his part.

 

Quote: "Boba Fett isn't a DAMN thing to the Mandalorians. Shysa freed Mandalore, and rebuilt it's army. He is the only one that cared, about the Mandalorians. Boba Ran away, plus he isn't from Mandalore. He's from Concord Dawn, which isn't apart of the Mandalore Sector. Mandalorian blood does not flow through his veins. He just wears the suit."


Fact 1: Marvel stuff is still to some degree less canon than Boba stuff
Fact 2: Boba and Jango hold up the Mandalorian Codex and lived that way.
Fact 3: Mandalorian is not someone by birth (that was before they became famous, because official facts state that Mandalorian alien race conquered the Mandalore system and named it after the Lord Mandalore, the conqueror. So Mandalorians are people from that world, but, too, the Merc groups. Being a Mandalorian is earned through training in the mandalorian way of fighting. Because those with birth right wern´t the famous Mandalorians.
So Jango was trained in the arts and so was Boba by Jango, as the Clone Army was as well to a certain degree. That's one of the reasons they were called Mandalorians in the history books of the GFFA about the Clone Wars. So Boba Fett is a true Mandalorian heir.
Bloos doesn't make a Mandalorian, the suite doesn't either... it is the training, and that he got!



Quote: "Fenn is the leader of the Mandalorian of Mandalore, Boba is just running a little merc group. So screw Boba, Shysa is the future, Always was."


Fact: True Shysa did more for Mandalore, but achieved less than Boba. Shysa freed Mandalore. Boba brought it back to the glory of ancient/old times.


Quote: "Oh and how does it work? Well if Mandalore's army if not erased by this article enters the Clone War, so does Fenn Shysa(that's if he isn't erased or his story altered). He was part of the 212, and Boba has 6 or so months between his last book and EP3 to do his part. "



Fact: Fenn Shysa was either trained by Jango as trainer for the Clone Army, togehter with others and became mandalorian by that training (read REPUBLIC COMMANDO: HARD CONTACT) or he was an original Mandalorian that didn't participate at Galidraan for whatever reason, maybe kicked out before or other reasons. Later on he, Boba and other Mandalorians (the 212 are these men, Clones who were called mandalorians by most of the civilians around that time, etc.) did the mission for Palpatine. Maybe including people from Mandalore, the homeworld. I see no problem with that. If you do, please tell me your facts, that support your opinion rather than critizising me for my work, though some is based on assumptions I tried to fit everything in and stay as close to canon as possible. Don't attack me, discuss!

And my idea would correct other continuity errors as well:

f.e. the rumour that Boba served with the stormtroopers.

Clone troopers evolved into stormtroopers and look much like them in epi3, but if Boba served with the 212 mandalorians mission in company with clones and left afterwards, this could be seen as if he was one of these troops leaving.

So, anything else I can do for you?

 

Actually the Mandalorians are blood Warriors. MAndalore in the Sith War spoke of his forefathers. Proving a line of Blood, and he was human. The MAndalorians also train there young in the ways of Mandalore. Mandalorians aren't Mercs they are honor and glory warriors, always have been. Jaster and Vilza were nothing but rotten apple's.

And Boba is just creating a Merc group, Shysa is leading the Sector of Mandalore. He is the Leader of all Mandalorians, thousands by now. And what Boba leads Six. WOW.

 

And where the hell is it fact that Shysa was trained by that dumb Ass Jango fett? I must of missed that part.

Shysa is from Mandalore, he is part of the 212 supper Commando's who faught in the Clone Wars. He is the Future.

You got anything else I CAN TEACH YOU

 

I wont't argue with people who attack me.

BUT: the Mandalorians changed over time. blood was long ago, now it is training. and the mandalore was alien, like seen in the comics. the human mandalorians showed up in KOTOR.

 

CeiranHarmony - re: what you said about the Marvel vs Boba info - do you mean now-current film info on Boba in regards to his origins in Ep II? If so, yes, the films override any EU, so Marvel is subservient to the films (lower in the hierarchy of continuity). But Marvel is an equal part of continuity as say, the young Boba books. So I believe the Fynn story is fine. From the comics there have been several appearances or mentions about the Mandalorians now in the Clone Wars - it is possible Palps contacted them, paid them for a mission and then handed their butts to the Republic forces under Aayla Secura. And it looks like some were killed by the Confederacy too - the idea of the Clone Wars is for Palpatine / Sidious to remove any obstacles to his rise to power - hence the stalemate that the Clone Wars was - Palpatine didn't really want a victor till he knew he could control the conditions. Maybe he saw the remaining Mandalorians as a threat and betrayed them to both the Republic forces and the Confederacy. And who is going to believe the Mandalorians over the Supreme Chancellor of the Republic, especially after Jango's group were "disgraced" at Galidraan - they were "implicated" in the massacre of civilians which led to the Jedi attacking and destroying Jango's group. So here was a mercenary group that had murdered civilians. So just like he will manipulate the Jedi into a "no-win" situation, and like he did to the Yinchorri in "Star Wars Jedi Council: Acts of War" comic series, he moves the problematic groups into destructive situations where only a few, or none at all, survive.

Oh, please check here for an idea about Boba and his (non-pure) "Mandalorian" blood -

http://boards.theforce.net/Literature/b10003/17497617/p2

 

"the rumour that Boba served with the stormtroopers."

Um, that was a bounty.

 

"CeiranHarmony - re: what you said about the Marvel vs Boba info - do you mean now-current film info on Boba in regards to his origins in Ep II? If so, yes, the films override any EU, so Marvel is subservient to the films (lower in the hierarchy of continuity). But Marvel is an equal part of continuity as say, the young Boba books. So I believe the Fynn story is fine. From the comics there have been several appearances or mentions about the Mandalorians now in the Clone Wars - it is possible Palps contacted them, paid them for a mission and then handed their butts to the Republic forces under Aayla Secura. And it looks like some were killed by the Confederacy too - the idea of the Clone Wars is for Palpatine / Sidious to remove any obstacles to his rise to power - hence the stalemate that the Clone Wars was - Palpatine didn't really want a victor till he knew he could control the conditions. Maybe he saw the remaining Mandalorians as a threat and betrayed them to both the Republic forces and the Confederacy. And who is going to believe the Mandalorians over the Supreme Chancellor of the Republic, especially after Jango's group were "disgraced" at Galidraan - they were "implicated" in the massacre of civilians which led to the Jedi attacking and destroying Jango's group. So here was a mercenary group that had murdered civilians. So just like he will manipulate the Jedi into a "no-win" situation, and like he did to the Yinchorri in "Star Wars Jedi Council: Acts of War" comic series, he moves the problematic groups into destructive situations where only a few, or none at all, survive.

Oh, please check here for an idea about Boba and his (non-pure) "Mandalorian" blood "

Only problem is that Fenn isn't a Merc, he;s a warrior of Mandalore. Also I wonder how a Race so few in number is problematic?

 

thx for the point timbolton, I agree with you!
Just tried to fix everything together, if possible.

DarthMane_2 that Bounty could have Boba play a Clone Trooper to get closer to his target, and leave afterwards. During this mission maybe. So our point doesn't contradict my theory.

 

Only that he killed his commanding officer as A STORM TROOPER. There is no date to when this happened, but it most likely was way after the Clone Wars.

 

Darth, a race so few is problematic because if you have them against you, numbers won´t make a difference. Mandalorians are trained to take out whole armies with small commandos of them. You´ve seen them fight in video games, novels, comics. That's a fact, isn't it?

 

Well there are way more Mandalorians in the Mandaloer sector,but in any account they are outstanding warriors who could make easy work of even the most potent Jedi, yet outnumbered against thousands does put on the bad end of things.

 

Stormtroopers existed since the late clone wars, as the clone army was much smaller and needed recruited help from military academies to fill up the losses. So it is possible.

 

Whatever


Actually Storm Troopers are not in the clone Wars, they become ST's after the Clone Wars. They are still Clone Troopers during the movie.