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Mara Jade's Lightsaber

Discussion in 'Literature' started by RubiconFett, Nov 14, 2003.

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  1. RubiconFett

    RubiconFett Jedi Youngling

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    I may have missed a few comics or other eu novels, but I was wondering if Mara still carried the Skywalker lightsaber given to her by Luke at the end of The Last Command.

    I saw no references to this throughout the entire NJO series, and was wondering if she lost it somewhere. I think that particular lightsaber represents alot in the Star Wars saga, almost akin to Excaliber, and I'm sure if it's still around it will be passed on to Ben Skywalker as a symbol of his heritage.
     
  2. Bib Fortuna Twi'lek

    Bib Fortuna Twi'lek Jedi Youngling star 10

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    Yep, she's still using it.
     
  3. Tramp

    Tramp Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Mara used Luke's old lightsaber throughout the NJO. It has been specifically mentioned that the blade was blue. The lightsaber that she made herself, and which she used in SW Union, has a magenta blade. The fact that she chose to use Luke's old saber, instead of her own personally constructed one, is probably more symbolic of the bond she has with her husband.
     
  4. Valiento

    Valiento Jedi Knight star 7

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    If by magenta you mean purple like was shown on the cover, your right. That in itself was a refrence to the purple blade she was using during Mysteries of the Sith, or so I've heard.
     
  5. Tramp

    Tramp Jedi Padawan star 4

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    If you look in the interior art, it's magenta, not purple. Magenta is (in pigment terms) is one of the three primary colors used in printing (the others being Cyan and Yellow, along with black) and falls directly between red and violet on a color wheel. It is the subtractive primary color opposite the additive Primary green. Also, in SW Insider #47, on page 55, where it lists her stats, it says,?Weapon: Magenta lightsaber?, not purple. She also had a magenta one back when she was still the Emperor's Hand.
     
  6. Valiento

    Valiento Jedi Knight star 7

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    "Main Entry: ma·gen·ta
    Pronunciation: m&-'jen-t&
    Function: noun
    Etymology: Magenta, Italy
    Date: 1860
    a deep purplish red"

    compare;

    VIOLET
    2 : any of a group of colors of reddish blue hue, low lightness, and medium saturation ;

    I rest my case, :).

    Not only that nothing in the comic is life-like realistic colors, but appeared to be sepia-toned a touch, :).

    "She also had a magenta one back when she was still the Emperor's Hand."

    According to an obscure line in TTT, it was a "violet" blade. She is shown in most sources using realistic colors(rather than sepia-toned art) as having violet at that time as well, :).

    In "By the Emperor's Hand" depending on the page and how much sepia-tone was used by the artists to cover the entire page. Her blade goes from shades of purple to shades of pink(cover art was purple as well).
     
  7. Tramp

    Tramp Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Valiento, I'm an illustrator and graphic designer by trade, I know my colors. Also, comic books don't use sepia tone, they use printers primaries, which are CMYK (Cyan, Magenta, Yellow, Black). Sepia tone is used in single or two-color jobs (along with black), to invoke a feel of ages past, such as the old west. Purple is a warm violet, while Magenta is a cool red. Mara's lightsaber is Magenta not purple, or violet, as was her one as the Emperor's hand.
     
  8. Valiento

    Valiento Jedi Knight star 7

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    The whole page looks to have a magenta tone, and unrealistic colors.

    In by the emperor's hand her colors switch between violet and magenta depending on the shade used on the entire page. In NEGTC, however, it also states that she had a violet saber, in refrence to what was said in TTT as well, :)

    Its a matter of the comic artists screwing things up, compared to what was written in the official continuity, or as the VIPs put it, "Artistic License".
     
  9. Tramp

    Tramp Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I don't know what you mean by TTT, but it is not a matter of the comic book artists ?screwing up?. An example of that would be SW Leviathan, making Tionne's hair blond instead of silver; That is the colorists ?screwing up?. More than likely, it is the writer of the NEGTC, who screwed up, because violet is very close to blue, and Mara's personal blade is very close to red as a color. Jaina has a violetlightsaber, not Mara. Mara's personal ligheasber is Magenta, as shown in SW Union, and in multiple shots during By the Emperor's Hand. In fact, All of the times I saw her blade in BTEH, it was magenta, not violet or Purple.
     
  10. Valiento

    Valiento Jedi Knight star 7

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    The Thrawn Trilogy, by Timothy Zahn. There is a line where he specifically says she had a Purple saber(not sure on the exact wording). This line is refrenced in multiple sources, including Mysteries of the Sith, Masters of Teras Kasi, and a handful of other sources (that came out before "BTEH" had even been conceived by the artists) and the New Essential Guide to Characters.

    The comics are in error with Timothy Zahn's own information, it's merely artistic license, rather than accurate source of information.

    Dan Wallace did not screw up, and he knows his sources much better than any of us mere fans, hell he has access to the Canon bible unlike us mere peons...

    If you must incorporate the visual arstic license as an accurate portrayal of a lightsaber she had, you would have to accept that she actually had 2 sabers at that time, the Purple one that was mentioned in TTT, and the magenta version.
     
  11. puppyglo

    puppyglo Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Doesn't it say that Jaina has a blue-violet lightsaber in the FH trilogy?
     
  12. Tiershon_Fett

    Tiershon_Fett Jedi Knight star 5

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    Yep, she's still using it.

    She's not a real Jedi if she doesn't use her own. Lazy hag. Even Jaina made one at three or whatever. But since she's sleeping with the boss, she doesn't have to do anything but show up. There's no way any saber Mara makes will match the quality of a real jedi like Anakin Skywalker's. It's catagorically impossible.
     
  13. Tramp

    Tramp Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Valiento, I have read the Trawn Trilogy on multiple occasions, and don't remember any reference in it to the color of her original lightsaber. Also, all of the visual depictions of Mara have her with either a blue blade or magenta. The only reference to mara's blade being violet that I have ever seen is in NEGTC. All others I have seen either have her with Luke's old blue one, or a Magenta one. And I have seen pics from Mysteries of the Sith and even that blade looks magenta to me. to most laymen (those who aren't artists), magenta could easily be confused with purple, but it is not the same thing.

    ? Doesn't it say that Jaina has a blue-violet lightsaber in the FH trilogy??

    Actually, Jaina's lightsaber is specifically Electric Violet as stated in YJK: Lightsabers. Electric Violet is a blue-violet.

     
  14. Matthew Trias

    Matthew Trias Force Ghost star 6

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    Mara hada violet lightsabre in Mara Jade Emperor's Hand. She had a violet blade in Mysteries of the Sith. It was not the blade that Luke gave her.

    She usually uses Luke's sabre.
     
  15. Tramp

    Tramp Jedi Padawan star 4

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    ? Mara hada violet lightsabre in Mara Jade Emperor's Hand. She had a violet blade in Mysteries of the Sith. It was not the blade that Luke gave her.?

    Trias, As I said before, violet is very close to blue, like Jaina's saber. Mara's saber, the one she made herself, is much closer to red, in both By the Emperor's Hand, and Mysteries of the Sith, as well as SW Union. As I said earlier, Magenta is an obscure color, and is sometimes confused with purple. Usually, only those in the graphics or printing industry have ever even heard of the color, so it is understandable why people would refer to it as purple. By the same token, purple and violet are sometimes mistakenly interchanged as well, even though they too are completely different colors.
     
  16. Matthew Trias

    Matthew Trias Force Ghost star 6

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    Doesn't look close to red to me.
     
  17. Tramp

    Tramp Jedi Padawan star 4

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    It certainly isn't close to blue.
     
  18. Lank_Pavail

    Lank_Pavail Jedi Knight star 7

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    Tierhson: As if any of the sabres made by the NJO era Jedi could match the ones wielded by the PT era Jedi?

    Luke's sabre, the one he built, is arguably one of the simplest designs-one crystal, no fancy tricks or gimmicks like variable blade length or the like. it's just on, off, and a lock to keep the sabre lit when he needs to throw it. That's worked for him for 20+years.

    Besides, Leia never built a sabre. She's had 3 given to her, yet Luke named her a Jedi. :)
     
  19. Matthew Trias

    Matthew Trias Force Ghost star 6

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    Who said it was? Anakin's is blue and that's the sabre Luke gave Mara.
     
  20. Tramp

    Tramp Jedi Padawan star 4

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    ? Who said it was? Anakin's is blue and that's the sabre Luke gave Mara.?
    In effect, you did, but not in so many words. As I said earlier, violet is close to blue in color, it is a very cool color in hue. Purple is a little warmer in hue, but still closer to violet than red; Magenta is closer to red in hue, and in fact is a cold red, but cold be confused with a hue of purple as well. Like I said, most people have probably never even heard of the color.
     
  21. Valiento

    Valiento Jedi Knight star 7

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    [image=http://www.decipher.com/starwars/cardlists/enhancedjabbaspalace/dark/images/marajadetheemperorshand.gif] [image=http://www.starwars.com/eu/news/1999/10/img/mara_bg.jpg] [image=http://www.starwars.com/community/news/2001/07/img/insider55_bg.jpg]

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  22. Tramp

    Tramp Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Val, those pics only reenforce my point. The shot of NMara on the cover of SW Insider os against a very warm background which will make the blade look cooler in hue. The shots from Mysteries of the Sith also show a magenta or possibly purple blade blade, not violet, more magenta though. the photo of SLJ as Mace on the cover of SW Insider is purple, and much cooler in hue than Mara's blade in those pics. Mace's pic from the cartoon is the only one which is as warm in hue as Mara's blade. But as I said, Magenta can easily be confused with purple, just as purple is often mistakenly confused with violet. It still stands that Mara is officially referenced in several sources, including SW Insider as having a magenta bladed lightsaber.
     
  23. Valiento

    Valiento Jedi Knight star 7

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    It still stands that Mara Jade's blade is refrenced as Purple in several sources including NEGTC, :).

    The manual for MOTS called it Purple as far as I remember as well(can someone confirm that?)

    Its the same shade as Mace Windu's which is said to be purple, :).

    I'm pretty sure there was an early insider that called it purple as well, :).
     
  24. Tramp

    Tramp Jedi Padawan star 4

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    As I've said before, Magenta is often confused with purple, just like purple is often confused with violet, even though all three are different colors. Also, SW Insider #47 specificallysays that her lightsaber is magenta on page 55, and this is reenforced in several visual depictions, including the ones you posted, and the interior art from both {i]By the Emperor's Hand[/i] and SW Union, among others. You can call it purple all you want, but it is magenta not purple, and certainly not violet. And no, except in that one pic of Mace from the cartoon, her lightsaber is not the same hue as Mace Windu's. Her blade is a much warmer hue.
     
  25. Valiento

    Valiento Jedi Knight star 7

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    I see we are getting anal retentive, :).

    Yes, the hue of her lightsaber in some sources is the same hue as the lightsaber seen in various shots in AOTC, :).

    LFL, can say its magenta, or purple until they are blue in the face, its still purple to me.
     
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