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PT Mas Amedda - was and is he a Sith Lord ?

Discussion in 'Prequel Trilogy' started by mihaitzateo, Apr 13, 2017.

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  1. mihaitzateo

    mihaitzateo Jedi Knight star 3

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    I have realized that Mas Amedda was vice leader of the Galatic Senate, during Chancellor Valorum.
    Mas Amedda remains as vice leader of the Galatic Senate during Palpatine rule and remains after, vice leader of the Galactic Empire.
    Palpatine/ Darth Sidious dies but Mas Amedda remains the leader of the Galactic Empire.
    We do not have any references in current official canon of Star Wars that Mas Amedda died.
    Mas Amedda is a shadowy presence in PT, but is very possible that he is the adviser and most trusted person of Darth Sidious.

    EDIT:
    Maybe most people would expect a Sith Lord to fight, using anger and hate.
    However, as Darth Sidious said, I cite "the dark side is the path to many abilities, that some consider un-natural".
    A very weird thing with Mas Amedda is that he is not getting older.
    Also, he might have been the ability to persuade others and he might have used his power to persuade others, to "turn the tide" in Palpatine favor, to have Palpatine elected as Chancellor of Galactic Senate.
    Mas Amedda could also have influenced Vallorum to take bad decisions that leads to Vallorum being replaced by Palpatine.
    Also Mas Amedda could have used his persuading abilities to manipulate the members of the Senate to accept taking the Clone Army, to accept that Jedis planned to overthrow the Republic etc.
    And it actually seems Mas Amedda is the shadowy character that together with Palpatine/Darth Sidious and maybe, before , together with Darth Plagueis made the plans to have Siths becoming absolute rulers of the Galaxy.
    Some people trolled that the shadowy character that is behind the plan to have Siths as rulers of the Galaxy is Jar Jar Binks.
    Yes, nice trolling, but is neither supported by facts neither makes any logic.

    Remember what Obi Wan tells in episode IV - when he minds controlled some people :
    "their weak minds" allows Obi Wan to do that.
    So, Mas Amedda seems very expert at mind controlling.
    He is controlling the weak minds of Jar Jar Binks, of Sabe and Padme and of other people to make the plan of the Siths work.

    Also it seems Darth Sidious is considering Mas Amedda a very important person and keeps him as backup, because we do not see Mas Amedda on the ship where Darth Sidious gets killed.

    Also, when Darth Sidious engages Master Yoda, Darth Sidious is clearly full of doubts, if he would be able to survive the fight or not.
    After Darth Sidious knocks down Master Yoda unconscious, Mas Amedda flees.

    Why?
    So if Darth Sidious will die, Mas Amedda together with Darth Sidious will continue rule the galaxy.

    So, is actually seems Darth Sidious and Darth Vader are the armed force of the Siths, the fighting Siths while Mas Amedda is the master planner of the events, of the Siths.

    As for only 2 Siths, yes only 2 Siths that are skilled in battle and also, to deceive the Jedis so they would not go to kill the master planner Siths.
     
  2. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord 50x Wacky Wed/3x Two Truths/28x H-man winner star 10 VIP - Game Winner

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    He might be Sidious's most trusted political henchman - but to be a Sith Lord, you need Force-sensitivity and Sith training, and Amedda has shown no signs of either.
     
  3. mihaitzateo

    mihaitzateo Jedi Knight star 3

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    He actually shows Force Sensitivity but in a different way, not being strong in battle.
    Remember what Anakin says about Master Obi Wan:
    that Obi Wan is strong in battle with the Force, as Mace Windu is and wise with the Force, as Master Yoda is.
    I think Mas Amedda shows dark wisdom, using the dark side of the Force, as how manipulative can be and how un-noticed he passes.
    I think this is the intention of Lucas.
    Lucas keeps Mas Amedda near Vallorum , near Palpatine, but is very hard to notice.
    It is Mas Amedda that whispers something at Vallorum ear, when Sabe or Padme complains about what happens on Naboo in TPM.
    After, Vallorum decides to form a committee to investigate what is happening on Naboo.
    And we have the reply of Padme or Sabe, that she will not watch her people dying, while the crisis on Naboo is discussed in a committee.
    This proposal of Vallorum triggers a wave of outrage in the Senate that leads to the Senate electing Palpatine as Chancellor.

    So it actually seems Mas Amedda is the one to be most trusted by the Siths and also a Sith and he has a very important part, if not most important part, of bringing the Siths to rule the Galaxy.
     
  4. JoshieHewls

    JoshieHewls Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Mas Amedda is not a Sith Lord. He was a weakling when the Empire crumbled, forced to be a puppet leader by Gallius Rax. Hell,
    Mas Amedda is the one who officially gives the Republic the Empire's surrender.
     
  5. mihaitzateo

    mihaitzateo Jedi Knight star 3

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    I have read about Gallius Rax but I do not think that ever was Official Cannon.
    I also read what Dave Filoni tells about Mas Amedda, but I would like to see what Lucas tells about Mas Amedda and I am curious if Disney will present Mas Amedda in future films.
    Thing is, in Clone Wars, TPM, Revenge of the Sith and A New Hope, Empire Strikes Back, Return of the Jedi - Mas Amedda is 2nd most powerful in the Galactic Empire.
    Darth Vader is also very powerful in Galactic Empire, but not as powerful as some admirals.
    Highly doubt Darth Vader knows very intimate plans of Darth Sidious.
    For example Darth Sidious would like to get rid of Darth Vader and replace him with Luke Skywalker.
    Also, Mas Amedda should have known about Count Dooku and about the plan to replace Dooku with Anakin and about the plan to mass kill Jedis.
    Anyway, these things written above are only speculations.

    And we do not know if Disney will preserve Mas Amedda, as Lucas intended and we do not know if Lucas will ever tell everything he had in mind about Mas Amedda.
     
  6. JoshieHewls

    JoshieHewls Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Lucas didn't have anything further in mind for Mas Amedda. We last see him in ROTS and in ROTJ the Empire was defeated. Lucas' canon was Episodes I-VI. That's it. He was not beholden to the EU anyway. He told us everything we needed to know in the films themselves.

    Note: Gallius Rax is from the Aftermath series of books, and is official canon. He was created post-Disney sale.
     
  7. mihaitzateo

    mihaitzateo Jedi Knight star 3

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    Well I guess we will not see in the future Mas Amedda, then, or we will see him and he will not be a Force sensitive.
     
  8. Alexrd

    Alexrd Chosen One star 6

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    A Sith Lord...?! How is that even a question? Nobody is a Sith Lord with the exception of Sidious, Maul, Tyranus and Vader. Amedda is just an influential pawn in the political arena who is useful for Sidious to keep around.
     
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  9. MrMojoRisin

    MrMojoRisin Jedi Master star 4

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    Since there are only 2 at a time and Palpatine seemed to stick to that pretty firmly, I'd say that it's a pretty definite bet that he isn't.
     
  10. Strongbow

    Strongbow Force Ghost star 5

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    Going by what we see in the Aftermath series of books, Mas Amedda seems to have been largely bureaucrat loyal to Palpatine. He is not one of Palpatine's acolytes, though he seems to be aware of them. So Amedda mainly seems to be the one that managed the business end of running the Empire.
     
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  11. Anakin 99

    Anakin 99 Jedi Knight star 1

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    always two there are no more no less. a master and an apprentice Why this is difficult to understand for some people
     
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  12. DARTHLINK

    DARTHLINK Force Ghost star 4

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    No, he was a politician deeply corrupted and loyal to Palpatine. If he were a Sith, why would he immediately vacate the office when Yoda arrived? You'd think he'd try and create a double-team against the little muppet.
     
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  13. mihaitzateo

    mihaitzateo Jedi Knight star 3

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    That is the official theory that Siths are letting to transpire.
    Darth Sidious have hidden a lot of things about the dark side of the Force to Anakin/Darth Vader.
    I think Siths were mostly studying by using Sith holocrons.
     
  14. darth-sinister

    darth-sinister Manager Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Prior to the Battle of Naboo, there were two Sith Lords (Sidious and Maul) and one Acolyte (Dooku). Afterwards, Maul was believed dead and Dooku was promoted and Ventress became the Acolyte. Then she was kicked to the curb. Dooku died and was replaced by Vader. There were the Inquisitors, but Amedda was not one of them. They were then wiped out prior to the Battle of Scarif and thus leaving two Sith Lords.
     
  15. Alexrd

    Alexrd Chosen One star 6

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    No, it's who and how they are. One master and one apprentice.
     
  16. heels1785

    heels1785 Skywalker Saga + JCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I think we're done here.
     
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