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  1. DarthWolvo23

    DarthWolvo23 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    In TPM, when trying to show how the Trade Federation "control" the senate, Palpatine says of Mas Amedda that he is a bureaucrat "on the payroll of the Trade Federation". He uses this as a ploy to get Amidala to go for a vote of no confidence in Valorum.

    How then does Palpatine justify keeping Amedda on as his aide during his Chancellorship?

    I know really Amedda is working for Palpatine and knows he is a Sith etc, but I mean how would Palpatine justify keeping on a man he accused of being corrupt to Amidala?
     
  2. Flames

    Flames Jedi Master star 2

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    Perhaps he assured her that he had taken care of things so that no more corruption would reach the Supreme Chancellor's office?
    I don't know.





    Palpatine - he's a crafty politician
    /Flames
     
  3. Brandon Rhea

    Brandon Rhea Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Vice-Chair is still an elected position, I believe, so it wouldn't be up to Palpatine whether or not he stayed.
     
  4. LORDVIGILANCE

    LORDVIGILANCE Jedi Youngling star 4

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    Well, Supreme Chancellor was an elected position and look where that ended up. But remember Palpatine's line of...I promise to put an end to corruption...Perhaps he convinced others that the corruption in the higher reachings of the Senate had been taken care of. Besides, he wouldn't need Mas Amedda to be working against him like he was with Chancellor Valorum.
     
  5. PalpatineAntikristos

    PalpatineAntikristos Jedi Youngling star 3

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    If he didn't have to justify the killing of younglings, he certainly didn't have to justify keepin Mas Amedda. ;)
     
  6. sonofcoruscant

    sonofcoruscant Jedi Knight star 2

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    Anyone who can climb that high in a Galactic Power Structure must have some serious political and economic clout, espeically in a system as corrupt as the Old Republic. I can only assume that Palapatine found him useful, at least for a while. I imgaine that once the political machine of the New Order was in full swing, it would be difficult for Mas to stay in the spotlight, but then again he may very well have been kept on in a less public fashion.
     
  7. sith_rising

    sith_rising Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    He was corrupt, but he may have been a capable and cunning politician, so why not keep him around? Sidious had the Trade Federation in his pocket, so anyone on Nute Gunray's payroll immediately becomes his unwitting pawn.
     
  8. voodoopuuduu

    voodoopuuduu Jedi Knight star 5

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    Even though he was corrupt, hes one of the very few who is familiar with all the workings and rules of the Senate.


    Star Wars Databank :

    Amedda's booming voice often called for order when the partisan nature of the Republic's government degenerated into pointless bickering. In an alien gesture of authority, he would often punctuate such calls with a flicker of his long, forked tongue.
     
  9. Carnage04

    Carnage04 Jedi Knight star 5

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    It seems that the Supreme Chancellor doesn't get to pick "Cabinet Members" the way the President of the United States does. You have elected heads of various comitees, Vice-chancellors (OR whatever he was) and such. Of course, the world of a well respected Supreme chancellor may help someone get a position, but I don't think he gets to pick them. Besides, anything Amedda was doing wrong probably got pinned on Valurum.

    Carnage
     
  10. Katana_Geldar

    Katana_Geldar Jedi Grand Master star 8

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    Why does he keep him on? he doesn't Amedda is later replaced by Sate Prestage (whom we see in ROTJ).

    I always had the impression that Amedda was an idealist and that's why Palps was able to corrupt him easily. Amedda also knew that Palpatine was Sidious and got him Sith artifacts.
     
  11. EMPEROR_WINDU

    EMPEROR_WINDU Force Ghost star 5

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    He keeps him on at least for a few months after ROTS. Both he and Sate Pestage share the privalege of close counsel with the Emperor... Who knows when he met his end, however. Probably in a coup when he realized power was never intended to be transfered to him upon the Emperor's natural death
     
  12. Katana_Geldar

    Katana_Geldar Jedi Grand Master star 8

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    He goes to retire I think and them Palps kills him off.
     
  13. EMPEROR_WINDU

    EMPEROR_WINDU Force Ghost star 5

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    Where did you find that out from? I'm not doubting you, but perhaps it was from Insider (I'm not a subscriber) and I didn't hear about it.
     
  14. darth-sinister

    darth-sinister Manager Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Mas Amedda was put into his position by Palpatine. What he told Padme was a lie. He was not on the payroll of the Trade Federation. He was one of Palpatine's pawns who would aid him in the Senate, until such a time as he was finally disposed of. Sate Pestage was already working with Palpatine when he was a senator. He moved up to Grand Vizer once the New Order was firmly established. By ANH, he was running many of the more minute aspects of the Empire.
     
  15. Katana_Geldar

    Katana_Geldar Jedi Grand Master star 8

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    I got my stuff from Wookiepedia but where did you get yours Sinister? I woulda thought Palps got rid of him sooner as Amedda isn't human
     
  16. DarthWolvo23

    DarthWolvo23 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    many answers in this thread but not many of them actually address my question

    i did not ask why palpatine keeps him on (i know he was working for palpatine)

    i asked how he defended the decision to keep him on when he had accused him of being corrupt to padme

    it means he says to padme, as if to show the weakness of the senate, enter the bureacrats on the payroll of the trade federation and then keeps on the man he accused of being corrupt when he himself is elected supreme chancellor

    surely to show he is cleaning up the senate, he should have made a show of mas amedda and got rid of him

    note - i didnt ask why he kept him on after he became emporer & i didnt ask the REAL reasons behing keeping him on (ie him working for sidious), i am asking how he defended his decision to keep him on to padme & the senate!
     
  17. LORDVIGILANCE

    LORDVIGILANCE Jedi Youngling star 4

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    Perhaps Chancellor Palpatine declared that he would not be as easily swayed by the bureaucrats as Chancellor Valroum had been. That he would have more resolve and dedication to the principles of the Galactic Republic. Maybe he explained that, while Mas Amedda had been involved in much of the ensuing corrpution, was too valuable at his tasks as Vice-Chancellor to be simply dismissed. I'm sure Palpatine made convincing addresses and threats to the Senate about the corruption in the Republic and that no such actions would be tolerated.
     
  18. Alpha-Red

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    I find it funny that he says Amedda is on the Trade Federation's payroll, but the entire Trade Federation is under his payroll =P
     
  19. darth-sinister

    darth-sinister Manager Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    It's never addressed. Not once in the films or the eu. All I can think of is that Palpatine told Padme that he was wrong about Mas.
     
  20. voodoopuuduu

    voodoopuuduu Jedi Knight star 5

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    note - i didnt ask why he kept him on after he became emporer & i didnt ask the REAL reasons behing keeping him on (ie him working for sidious), i am asking how he defended his decision to keep him on to padme & the senate!

    I thought I did. Mas Amedda knew the minute detailed workings of the Senate. After Padme became a Senator herself, surely she realized that, and could see the benefit of keeping him on.
     
  21. DarthWolvo23

    DarthWolvo23 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    thanks for trying

    i dont know why it irritates me so much, but now whenever i see that scene i think why have the dialogue in if it makes no sense later on!!!

    i think i may be looking at the films in too much detail -it would have made more sense if the person palps accused of being corrupt was the other aide, because he does replace her!
     
  22. darth-sinister

    darth-sinister Manager Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Who says Palpatine was telling the truth?
     
  23. voodoopuuduu

    voodoopuuduu Jedi Knight star 5

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    Well, Palps doesnt really single out Mas Amedda. He just implies hes part of the larger group of bureaucrats.


    AMIDALA : Honorable representatives of the Republic, distinguished
    delegates, and Your Honor Supreme Chancellor Valorum, I come to you under
    the gravest of circumstances. The Naboo system has been invaded by force.
    Invaded...against all the laws of the Republic by the Droid Armies of the
    Trade...
    LOTT DOD : I object! There is no proof. This is incredible. We recommend a
    commision be sent to Naboo to assertain the truth.
    VALORUM : Overruled.
    LOTT DOD : Your Honor, you cannot allow us to be condemned without
    reasonable observation. It's against all the rules of procedure.

    A third box representing Malastare moves into the center of the room. AKS
    MOE, the Ambassador, addresses the convention.

    AKS MOE : The Congress of Malastare concurs with the honorable delegate from
    the Trade Federation. A commision must be appointed...that is the law.
    VALORUM : The point...

    VALORUM confers with several of his AIDES and VICE CHAIRMAN MAS AMEDDA.
    PALPATINE whispers something to the QUEEN.

    PALPATINE : Enter the bureaucrats, the true rulers of the Republic, and on
    the payroll of the Trade Federation, I might add. This is where Chancellor
    Valorum's strength will dissapear.
    VALORUM : The point is conceded...Section 523A take precedence here. Queen
    Amidala of the Naboo, will you defer your motion to allow a commission to
    explore the validity of your accusations?

    QUEEN AMIDALA is angry but remains composed.

    AMIDALA : (angrily) I will not defer...I have come before you to resolve
    this attack on our sovereignty now. I was not elected to watch my people
    suffer and die while you discuss this invasion in a committee. If this body
    is not capable of action, I suggest new leadership is needed. I move for a
    "vote of no confidence"...in Chancellor Valorum's leadership.
    VALORUM : What?...No!
     
  24. Alpha-Red

    Alpha-Red 18X Hangman Winner star 7 VIP - Game Winner

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    Something about this still doesn't add up. Doesn't the Jedi Council report to the Senate? Can't they just tell them that not only did the Trade Federation attack Naboo, but representatives from the Jedi Council and Republic Judicial Department? If that isn't enough proof, as dear old Lott Dod mentions, then I don't know what is.
     
  25. Katana_Geldar

    Katana_Geldar Jedi Grand Master star 8

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    The main point about that scxene in TPM was that Lott Dod put out a road block (on Sidious' orders probably), Amidala fully expected something to happen as did a lot of other Senators. They already knew about the blockade and expected for something to be done about it.

    The fact is that when Amidala was manipulated by Palpatine into the vote of no confidence, everything else became secondary. The motion was seconded and while the election was happening she could do nothing.
    If Lot Dod hadn't roadblocked, something would have happened and Palptine knew this.
     
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