Lit Maul and Ahsoka in Legends timeline

So one loose end we have from the old Legends timeline is Maul and Ahsoka. With Maul, it would've been easily figured out that he was executed by Palpatine following the events of TCW, but since Son of Dathomir was Legends canonized, this leaves his fate thereafter unknown. As for Ahsoka, I believe its been said she 'dies at the steps of the Jedi Temple', but how does it get there?

Does the Siege of Mandalore from TCW S7 still happen as in New Canon, but in Legends? What are some differences that would come from it? Is there still a Shadow Collective crime syndicate in the Galactic Civil War, and how does that lead into the potential Maul revival in the Legacy Era? Maybe he's Wredd's hidden master and resurfaces after Legacy Vol. 2? Or he's the 'clone' Vader slays during the GCW? Or his brain was stuck in a jar somehow? A lot of options, which could've been easily cleared with Maul dying to Sidious in TCW.

 

As much as I generally dislike character resurrections, I really enjoyed Old Wounds. That's what I'd want as the end of Maul's story in Legends.

It's tempting to say that The Force Unleashed's Shaak Ti was actually Ahsoka, she's got plenty of other deaths to choose from. Where does the death on the Temple steps come from?

I don't think the Siege of Mandalore works in Legends, at least not as we saw it. The Separatist-backed Mandalorian Protectors need to take power before the war's end.

 

There’s an argument to be made that Marvel’s republication of Old Wounds without an Infinities label alongside Legends-canon stories in the Epic Collection makes it part of Legends continuity.

 

Wasn't Maul in the Demolitions video game right after ESB?
I would include Maul in a Legacy volume 3 teaming up with Talon, doing adventures and what not.
Ahsoka? Dead in the Temple.

 

Although considering Order 66 is a contingency order in Legends, and not a brainwashing thing, there's the question on whether Ahsoka would've been even targeted by Order 66. Although she was technically restored to her rank of Jedi Commander, so maybe she is.

 

Even though Palpatine says outright that he isn't going to kill him?

 

....Not until he got Talzin

 

We also need to get the Imperial-aligned Death Watch regime in there too, from Republic Commando. Lorka Gedyc is probably eventually replaced by Gar Saxon, another Death Watch leader. Alternatively, Lorka's the Supreme Strategist from Forces of Corruption, while Gar Saxon's title is Viceroy.

 

I haven't read the RC books, do they ever go into the allegiance of Mandalore during the Clone Wars?

My headcanon is that the Republic action Obi-Wan promises Bo-Katan is delayed until after the war, becoming the Imperial occupation. I also have "Supreme Strategist" as the formal version of the Suprema.

 

Per EGTW, Mandalorians have been training Clone Troopers for a good while, which marks them on the Republic side. @Sinrebirth Your thoughts on how to integrate the RC Death Watch regime in a hypothetical Legends Siege of Mandalore and how they seem to be Imperial-leaning in their loyalties after?

 

Yeah, I sorta forgot Maul's band of Mandalorians were also kind of Death Watch successors, even if referred to as 'Super Commandos'. Although maybe 'Super Commando' is just a general term for Mandalorian soldiers, not only specifically referring to Jaster's SuperCommando Codex, who would instead go on to be the Mandalorian Protectors. I figure Death Watch is a recurring political group that preaches a return to the old ways of a Mandalorian empire, rather than mercenary work. Hell the Kadikla movement in LOTF/FOTJ is sort of a Death Watch-lite in that regard, if not an outright return to it, which puts Boba in an interesting position to herald the return of those ways.

So what about Maul's survival? Does he still go Old Wounds-tier death as per Rebels? Or the more Legends canon-aligned death where he fights and dies to Vader? You could probably stretch his survival all the way into Legacy as I mentioned.

 

The Kalakar Six Maul is heavily implied to be a creation of the Prophets of the Dark Side, so that's probably not the real Maul's death. If you take Old Wounds into continuity, that likely wasn't his real brain on Iridonia, either, given his death in the comic.

 

Maul is killed by Vader or imperial agents. Another duel with Obi Wan isn’t really appropriate thematically or for the character in my view.

As for Ahsoka, I’ve always been content with a headcanon she spent the reminder of her life in seclusion and quiet exile. She never made contact with Luke’s order though she was aware of its existence and did observe from a distance. Feeling relieved and contented that Anakin’s son rebuilt the Jedi, she lived in obscurity, dying sometime in the 50s ABY, living a long mostly quiet and peaceful life.

 

Don't really need the Sith to take back the entire Empire. You could just have a regional warlord outfit around Korriban under Darth Nihl, which Darth Krayt then comes back and takes over for one last attempt. The One Sith still have an entire armada of Dragon Ships. The Empire, or rather Federation Triumvirate, can still be a separate thing fighting its war with Nihl/Krayt's Sith, with the Maul/Talon team-up either being a cobelligerent with the Triumvirate, or opposed to them as well, a restoration of the Shadow Collective of old.

The question is how you get there if Maul dies on Tatooine as in Old Wounds/Rebels. The usual answer of clone?

 

In my headcanon Maul always died during Episode 1...

But to Ashoka my headcanon is that she still met the Martez sisters after leaving the order, that said this time their shemes fail much earlier and all three are arrested, Ashoka giving a fake name. They are still prison when the Empire takes over, which means harder labor but little else changes. In prison Trace and Ashoka begin a relationship. After spending nearly a decade in prison there is eventually a prison riot. Rafa is killed but Ashoka and Trace managed to escape. They spend the rest of the Imperial Era in hiding in Coruscants underworld and eventually get married. After the liberation they live quietly on Coruscant. Ashoka eventually dies during the Vong invasion of Coruscant... maybe somewhere close to were the old Temple stood in refernce to the whole "on the steps of the Temple". Trace survives the Vong occupation and eventually passes some info about Ashoka to the New Jedi order...

 

Some of them worked as trainers on an individual basis, but we also saw plenty of Mandos working for the Confederacy.

Interestingly, we also get some of that in canon - Fenn Rau apparently trained clones, and he served in the Republic military alongside some of his fellow protectors in Skull Squadron, despite his government's neutrality and Death Watch being initially aligned with the CIS before going rogue.

"Name's Fenn Rau, General. And Skull Squadron is happy to demonstrate…that not all Mandalorians have forgotten their honor and obligations."
I find this quote particularly interesting because of that last bit - why do those Mandalorians see fighting for the Republic as part of their obligations? Sadly it doesn't get elaborated on more than that from what I remember.

Plus, while we don't have any details yet, I get the impression that Bo-Katan tried to play nice with the Empire for a while, before getting replaced with Gar Saxon for some reason. I imagine it is probably something similar to what happened with Cham Syndulla in Rebels, where the empire decided to back whichever local leader was more pliable to letting them exploit the planet and populace.

 

In my headcanon Ahsoka dont exist in the Legends timeline and Maul survived in TPM but dont show up during the Clone Wars and his last appearance was in duel against Obi Wan in Old Wounds

 

Didn't the guy who wrote that Maul vs. Vader one-shot say recently that he considers that Legendsverse Maul's final death?

 

Where was this said?

Weren't the comments from Lucas said along the lines of 'so freeze him and unfreeze him into the future' when he was told that Darth Talon existed in the far future, implying its still Maul? I suppose he could be another one of the Maul clones. We have Maulkiller as of TFUII, so I'm not sure how to combine that all together.

 

You mean Ron Marz?