Mission to Myrkr...

*cough!*

*spluter!*

*hack!*



Okay... right, this counts as a valid part of the EU continuity, doesn't it?

In which Luke assembles a second Jedi strike-team, and after a briefing on Coruscant, dispatches them to Myrkr to confirm that voxyn are vornskr-based, and to get some holos - the whole adventure taking place "during the events of the novel Star by Star"...

Since Luke's briefing is given on Coruscant, this would seme to fix it in the timeframe just before the battle - but what would Luke be doing dispatching a fact-finding mission that late in the game? He knows the voxyn are there - he's sent the YJK to their deaths already.

And inexplicably, this second mission is packed off on a ship supplied by Luke, the Lady Starstorm - which can make a lightspeed jump straight into the system. I'm sure the YJK would have found that a real help...

Now we know Farmboy's a bit... well, Farmboy... but all this suggests the onset of senility...

The timing is further confined by the voxyn training facility aboard the worldship still being intact at the end of the mission, because that's where the Jedi get thrown in if they get captured... and really complicated because when the Lady Starstorm arrives in-system, the YV "seem to be concentrating on guarding" one of their own warships heading for the worldship. Now I'm pretty sure that nothing arrived between the Exquisite Death and Nom Anor's frigate and the small fleet with which Jaina was fighting at the end of the novel... and both the Quizzie and the frigate arrived before Luke hit Coruscant in SbS.

So either this warship is something that came even earlier in the timeframe, or it's one of those two. Now the preoccupation of the Vong forces with this ship, and the all-important word seem, rather makes it sound as though it's the Exquisite Death with the matalok riding shotgun, seen from a certain point of view...

Quite apart from the problems this causes with just how Luke could be on Coruscant earlier in the novel, this may have further implications - the Jedi presence in the Force Anakin picked up during the arrival, full of pain and pity, and surprise. That really didn't feel like Lomi or Welk, though Lomi later claimed that it was them, because they were the only ones left alive.

But if the Quizzie and the Lady Starstorm arrived simultaneously, we have new candidates for Jimmy's extra Jedi - candidates whose presence in the system Lomi and Welk might not have wanted to advertise. Given the panic they're in, we'd have to infer that the continuity goes with the "they get attacked" version of the WotC mission. We can also infer that they knew that there were Jedi aboard the Quizzie...

Hmm... well, maybe that's pushing it a bit - but has anyone got a way of rationalizing this that doesn't involve a fake Luke Skywalker in the first place?

- The Imperial Ewok

 

Yeah. It's not canon. Novels trump RPG materials on the canon hierarchy.

 

So, what - you just dump it with the rest of the garbage because it doesn't superficially 'fit'?!

Then do we lose HttE because what it says about clones and stormtroopers seems different from the prequels, when in fact it's all a question of perception and preconception?

- The Imperial Ewok

 

Spaarti clones are different from Kamino clones.

 

Yeah. It's not canon. Novels trump RPG materials on the canon hierarchy.

Uh, no there sport. They don't.

But nice try!

What we DON'T know is the actual canonical storyline within the RPG module (much like videogames), but it's still valid.

 

Dear lord, I sincerely hope there wasn't a second mission to Myrkr in SbS. I hate RPG material.

 

Darth_Guy: yeah, that's my point...

... just like the Luke Skywalker in "Mission to Myrkr" is a different Luke Skywalker from the one in the rest of the NJO...

dp4m: yep, exactly!

Darth_Guy: sorry, but the RPG establishes the second mission as part of the continuity - now we have to work out what the heck's going on...

- The Imperial Ewok

 

In fact A_R, look at this from the RCRB pg.242: "A Rule in the StarWars Roleplaying game takes precedence over any other published StarWars product.

 

I have one thing to say about RPG material being canon: ****! One more: ****! Yet one more: ****!

 

Dont give into hate, that leads to the Darkside! Seriously, why the dislike?

 

In fact A_R, look at this from the RCRB pg.242: "A Rule in the StarWars Roleplaying game takes precedence over any other published StarWars product.

As a caution, I brought that up before. What we've quasi-decided is that the above applies SOLELY to RPG material published by WOTC, e.g. the FIRST RPG stuff they published which is now no longer quite relevant.

 

What about what's-their-names the dark Jedi? Maybe they were the other team? ?

 

Oh, Darn you DP, always ruining my Fun. Well, if that won't pass, who/what says that the RPG is at the same level as the novels?

 

Oh, Darn you DP, always ruining my Fun. Well, if that won't pass, who/what says that the RPG is at the same level as the novels?

The same thing that says that all of the EU is at the same level.

Whatever the designation in the DB that's not "G"-level canon is the rest...

 

Well, if that won't pass, who/what says that the RPG is at the same level as the novels?

I'm pretty sure that one of the RPG products says somewhere in it that the RPG trumps everything except the films, but I may be wrong. DP brought it up if I recall correctly, so he can probably find it again. But there have been canon policy changes since that source was printed (in fact, I'm pretty sure that there have been) so that policy would no longer be in effect.

 

Spaarti clones are different from Kamino clones.

Yeah, the Faarti clones aren't real, and the Kamino one are.

I never pay any attention to "RPG" because I never have played any games.

 

What is your original post from, Thrawn McEwok?

never pay any attention to "RPG" because I never have played any games.

You don't have to play to pay attention to whats in the RPG sourcebooks. There's quite a bit of useful info in them for more than just playing purposes. If you're not going to play the RPG you can ignore all the game mechanics info and work with the other stuff in the book.

 

Yeah, I don't know if you've been checking the Planet Hoppers every Thursday but we've been getting some very, very nice (and free!) canon storys that don't require knowledge of the d20 system to understand. The stats are usually just collected at the bottom of each article.

 

Raven: it's possible, I guess, but I don't think Luke - even a fake Luke - would recruit Darksiders...

Knight: my original post is my own twisted extrapolation from the online RPG material linked-to in it...

I can't think of a way to fix this with the continuity except to postulate a fake Luke with some high-grade military intelligence (knows where the voxyn are coming from, knows how to get through the minefields, may know about Anakin's mission already being on its way there), sending a Jedi mission to Myrkr with orders he probably doesn't really expect them to obey - because, if you have all that intelligence, do you really need some holiday photos of a voxyn...?

But I'm open to suggestions...

- The Imperial Ewok

 

What other little tidbits do you have that will further destroy my confidence in any hope of acheiving a semblance of EU continuity, Thrawn McEwok?

 

Does it have to be factual, a kind of "off screen continuity"? Not a fictious side quest finding a niche in a timeline of events?

More than one occasion Desann expressed his anger at me by chucking a psycho and hurling me around that chamber in Jedi Outcast so long, so hard, I was stuck looking down from the roof for half a minute until he relented! How realistic do these events need be?

 

it's possible, I guess, but I don't think Luke - even a fake Luke - would recruit Darksiders...

Well, this "fake" luke married one right?

 

But Luke, real or not, could be fooled by darksiders. Or he could have been coerced into doing it. (maybe they've kidnapped the real Luke and locked away somewhere)

 

The RPG may allow and create adventures that may not take place in the movies or EU. It says so in the Front of the Players Handbook.

This is just basically a fun idea for players to attempt, that does not mean that is actually happened in Star War Canon. After Searching Wizard's website you can find tons of these examples such as

You helping Luke and Obi-Wan rescue Leia....not that is clearly not Canon just a fun idea of a Game

 

have you got the link to that one? Can't seem to find it.

But what about the other adventures, e.g. Last call at leatherbacks or Positive Identity? Are they canon or not, or just the characters and locations (e.g. the Corusca Gem cantina) canon?