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Modesty: the revolutionary concept...well, it is nowadays...

Discussion in 'Archive: Your Jedi Council Community' started by jedi-thespian, Jan 12, 2002.

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  1. jedi-thespian

    jedi-thespian Jedi Youngling star 3

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    It's strange, but true! Modesty is more romantic, believe or not. Modesty is sexy. I mean, think about it...

    What could be more sexy than the mysterious? Not knowing is much more alluring than having everything thrown at you at once. Besides, you'll catch the right guys with modesty. Here we go:

    Guys see a girl being...well...immodest. One type of guys look at her and an alarm will sound in their brain, saying,

    "Eep! Too easy! She'd cheat on me! She'll make me old before my days with worry! There's no telling where she's been!"

    And, of course, the other type of guys will walk right up to that girl looking for a one-night stand. Their brains will be going,

    "Woo-hoo! Looks like I'm going to have a hot date tonight! She looks pretty easy. I bet she wouldn't mind a little...heh-heh...fun."

    Now, girls, I ask you, is that the type of guy you would like to attract? Or would you like to attract the first type of guy? Now, I will admit, the first type of guy is extremely rare. Especially if he's a teenager. But it's worth it.

    Okay, second scenario:

    Guys see a girl being modest. Let's go with the second type of guys first:

    "Shoot, there's no way I'll go to her. She would be absolutely no fun. I'll go check out the hot mama over there."

    Here's the first type:

    "She looks like a pretty nice girl. If she really likes me, I bet she wouldn't try to make me feel uncomfortable. But she looks fragile. I won't hurt her. She's the one for me."

    Again, I will say that this is a one in a million situation on the "nice guy's" part, but it's not impossible. Believe me, my dad and my brothers are among them.

    Any questions?
     
  2. LoveisSuicideSP

    LoveisSuicideSP Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Modesty and High School are two words that don't go together very well unfortunately.
     
  3. goldbubbly

    goldbubbly Jedi Padawan star 4

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    jedi your right babe
     
  4. farraday

    farraday Jedi Knight star 7

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    <--Won the 'Most modest' award four years running.

    ;)


     
  5. nyjets

    nyjets Jedi Padawan star 4

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    modesty and ghetto are also two word s that don't go together
     
  6. Just_A_Slacker

    Just_A_Slacker Jedi Youngling star 4

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    I do tend to agree with Jedi's assement, but unfortunately many teenage girls think that they can only feel good about themselves if they "put out" or use sex as a tool.

    Any guy who loves you, will wait. If he won't wait, you don't need him anyways.
     
  7. legacyAccount

    legacyAccount Jedi Youngling

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    my mom used to make fun of me for dressing "like a nun." she exagerated and i loosed up a bit. but i'm still pretty modest compared to a lot of my friends.
     
  8. Ariana Lang

    Ariana Lang Jedi Youngling star 5

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    True that, Slacker. Same goes with guys. Girls don't usually like it when they found out their boyfriend has been a "player." Guys -- we really do like it when you have small amounts of decency and decorum in you! You don't have to act super masculine to impress us! I swear!
     
  9. nyjets

    nyjets Jedi Padawan star 4

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    dammit 16 and just now learning
     
  10. eaglejedi

    eaglejedi Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I identify with the first type of guy, but I have learned to be a little bit more discerning than that... While I'd keep in mind that it's generally as you say, I wouldn't assume it's necessarily true... About the immodest girls, I mean. I've known some girls in school that weren't modest with their clothing, but weren't harlots, didn't put out (unless possibly to their single long-term boyfriend, I don't know about that), and some of them were pretty smart and stuff.

    Anyway, it's still most safe (and sane) to assume it's true most of the time, especially outside of school.

    However, in summer, one should also keep in mind that more girls may dress in a way that seems less modest, simply in order to keep cool, especially in warm places, such as out here in California.

    I'll confess, within the last two years, I have gone for the first type of girl, but it wasn't very deep, and after I screwed up, went south pretty fast.
    Then I went for the second, without knowing it at first, and well, who knows?

    I also take issue with the first post- it's not that revolutionary. I have a friend who was telling me what she got for Christmas, and she said she got some sweaters and long-sleeved shirts, and mentioned that finally her relatives understood that she wanted her clothes loose, "none of this tight crap." She looks pretty good, but she's generally pretty modestly dressed.
    Come to think of it, most (read that as almost all) of the girls that I know well at all, don't wear clothes that really expose their bodies. My co-editor at the school newspaper is an exception, but that's a special case.
     
  11. anakin_girl

    anakin_girl Jedi Knight star 6

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    I don't have a modest bone in my body, and I'll admit it; I've always felt that if my figure was in good shape, I might as well show it off. But that's a personal preference.

    jedi-thespian, your post makes perfect sense. Maybe that's why I always attracted weirdos before I got married.

    Slacker and Ariana_Lang, you're right.
     
  12. FlamingSword

    FlamingSword Jedi Knight star 6

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    I agree, jedi-thespian. In a lot of places and people, modesty does seem to be lacking quite a bit.

    I have known plenty people who were so immodest it wasn't even attractive anymore. I have also known people, although few, who took modesty to the extreme and were too modest in my opinion. Perhaps there is no such thing as too modest, but although I don't want to look like a slut and like my modesty, I don't mind looking good.
     
  13. cydonia

    cydonia Jedi Knight star 5

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    Uh...What's this about guys who aren't pigs being a one in a million? Are girls who aren't "easy" one in a million?
     
  14. SillyMystic

    SillyMystic Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Guys who aren't pigs aren't as common as guys who are. The same goes for girls. But since guys and gals who aren't pigs don't show off, they're even harder to spot. Whether they're one-in-a-million is probably and over-exageration.

    Guys and gals who aren't pigs look for others who aren't pigs. So if you want to find one, you'd better be one :)
     
  15. Zasio

    Zasio Jedi Knight star 5

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    I think that people should be allowed to dress however they want . . . modestly, or immodestly . . . Unless it like actually hurts someone really bad in a way that isn't their fault . . .

    As far as how I dress I think as long as I'm happy with me and the person who I care about the most is happy with me and I'm not hurting anyone else, I'm okay . . .
     
  16. FlamingSword

    FlamingSword Jedi Knight star 6

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    Sure let people dress how they want. I have absolutely no problem with that. But how you dress reflects something about you whether its accurate or not. You dress "easy", people will think you're easy.

    There is a lot of pressure on people especially teens to dress a certain way. Modesty does seem to be a revolutionary concept these days because many teens wouldn't dare dress that way. There is nothing wrong with dressing modestly but know a lot of teens don't think that.

    How I dress reflects something about me. I have no desire to appear easy, a slut, or underdressed (to the point where you wonder how they can ever be warm enough). So most people don't dress that extreme but I'm trying to make a point here. You're judged on the impression you make and how you dress is a part of that impression.
    "He looks trustworthy," ... "She's an easy catch" .... "That one's a rebel for sure" ...."Wow what a body" .... etc. are all impressions you make on people by how you dress. Sure these impression may be wrong, but you'll miss and get opportunities (both good and bad) in life, love, and career because of them.
     
  17. Mastadge

    Mastadge Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Modesty's good, but I think some take it TOO far...

    anyway, yeah, I'm more the first type...
     
  18. Zasio

    Zasio Jedi Knight star 5

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    Just a question- Is this thread only meant for discussing the way you dress in relation to attracting another person?
     
  19. anakin_skywalker_sct

    anakin_skywalker_sct Jedi Master star 5

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    Pfft. Where does modesty get you these days? Ignored, that's where. :(
     
  20. Bossk_BountyHunter

    Bossk_BountyHunter Jedi Youngling star 3

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    I only like shy women because I'm shy as well.I can't stand being near an extrovert.
     
  21. Mastadge

    Mastadge Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I only like shy women because I'm shy as well.I can't stand being near an extrovert.

    Too true...I know this feeling only too well...
     
  22. jedi-thespian

    jedi-thespian Jedi Youngling star 3

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    WHEW! Talk about FEEDBACK!

    I really appreciate this guys! Just wanted to get a message out to the world.

    As for me, I do believe that there is such a thing as too much modesty, but there is also such a thing as too little modesty. And I do agree with the girls that aren't "easy" are one in a million. Like the guy thing, it's sad.

    Modesty also means keeping yourself from a compromising situation. It's okay to go out on dates, but it's not very smart to date a guy (or girl, for that matter) solely on looks. Girls, if a guy tries to put the moves on you, let him know where you stand. Same goes for you too guys, if a girl tries to get frisky.

    This is just my opinion, it's okay if you disagree.
     
  23. Ender

    Ender Jedi Knight star 6

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    I'm prefer more outgoing women but that doesn't mean they are the type to sleep with anyone. Doesn't mean they aren't modest either.

     
  24. Bobafemme

    Bobafemme FF Jedi Council Member, Chicago IL RSA Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Following some logic put forth, I can see how some jurors think rape victims were asking for it.

    Judging someone based on their clothes is just as wrong to me as someone who is easy. Yes, I believe girls are dressing sluttier younger, but that's between them and their parents. There are times for appropriate clothing (ie don't wear a camisole top to a job interview unless it's at a strip club)and maybe people need to work on understanding the right occassion for particular garb instead of declaring no nipples ever showing.

    I also see clothing as a means to stay warm and would be quite content living in an underwearest colony.

    nudeniks rise!
     
  25. eaglejedi

    eaglejedi Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Indeed, but some clothing has more purpose than that.
    Anyway, I have to protest that it doesn't get you ignored. I like girls to have some modesty... it makes them more interesting and shows me they have class.
    I'll admit I've been attracted to girls who weren't very modest in the past, but pursuing that attraction turned out to be a mistake every time.
     
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