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  1. DarthMontross

    DarthMontross Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I was watching Episode I today and somehting caught my attention. When Qui-gon asked to take Anikin as an apprentice Mace Windu said that he couldn't take on another apprentice since he was already training Kenobi and it was against the Jedi Code. But I was under the impretion that Sabe Sabatyne the Barabel was training Three apprentices at one time. If this is correct why was she allowed to train three at a time?
     
  2. Valiento

    Valiento Jedi Knight star 7

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    Look at the era difference, :). The NJO, is not the OJO.

    Also look at how many munchkin's Yoda was training.

    It depends on varying circumstances.
     
  3. YoungJedi11

    YoungJedi11 Jedi Knight star 5

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    I think the New Jedi Order had to make some changes from the Old. There were thousands of Jedi in the Old Republic, but in the New, there's only one hundred. In addition, there's even a smaller number of masters.

    So, instead of having a line of apprentices waiting to be trained, they just train them all together.

    Saba wasn't the only one who had multiple apprentices; Luke trained Anakin and Jacen at the same time also.
     
  4. Kast_Morben

    Kast_Morben Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Although uncommon, Jedi sometimes defied the council during the PT-era. Geith is the most famous (apart from Qui-Gon), who trained two apprentices at once. One of whom was Callista
     
  5. Excellence

    Excellence Jedi Knight star 7

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    Unless it says otherwise in a sourcebook, I was under the impression Geith was just Callista's romance interest, not an actual Jedi.
     
  6. GENERAL_FEL

    GENERAL_FEL Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Valiento wrote:
    Also look at how many munchkin's Yoda was training.

    You are correct in your statements about the NJO and OJO being two entirely different eras. Howqever, the statement above has no impact on the discussion. The question is about Padawans being paired up with a Jedi Master, not Jedi Younglings being taught by Jedi Masters at the Temple.
    Padawans are assigned/chosen when they reach the age of 13. Before that, the Jedi Younglings/Padawans are taught in groups. The following is the entry for the Bear Clan in the OS databanks:

    Prior to a young Padawan's pairing with a Jedi Master, she was taught in a communal group called a clan. At any given time, there are ten different clans undergoing instruction, under the sageful tutelage of Jedi Master Yoda. Clans consisted of twenty young Jedi hopefuls ranging in age from four to eight, and comprising a number of different species. The mighty Bear Clan contained such bright students as J.K. Burtola, Mari Amithest, and Liam. Anakin Skywalker is a rare example of a Padawan student who skipped the clan-stage of training by joining the order at a late age.

    Just a little FYI. ;)

    In the New Jedi Order, Luke trained many padawans (apprentices) at one time. As the Jedi's number increased, he reinstated the Master-Padawan training relationship. However, the rule of One Master to One Padawan was not included in the reinstatement for practical reasons. If memory serves me correctly, and I like to think that it does, both Jacen and Anakin were Luke's Padawans/Apprentices at the same time.

     
  7. Kast_Morben

    Kast_Morben Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    My Mistake: What I meant to say was Djinn Altis was the master of both Callista and Geith.
     
  8. Jedi_Horn_888

    Jedi_Horn_888 Jedi Youngling star 2

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    I was under the impression also that Geith wasn't a Jedi, just Callista's love interest.
     
  9. lightsaber_wielder

    lightsaber_wielder Jedi Padawan star 4

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    It's because of the difference in time. Luke doesn't know many of the rules that were in place during Mace's time, due to the fact that much of it has been lost. And, besides, Luke himself had both Jacen and Anakin as apprentices at the one time as well, so if he had forbidden Saba from doing it, he'd kinda be a hypocrite.
     
  10. Valiento

    Valiento Jedi Knight star 7

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    "GENERAL_FEL", you obviously have no sense of humor, :), I'm well awhare of what TOS said, but what I said was all in jest to lighten the mood...
     
  11. Knight1192

    Knight1192 Jedi Knight star 6

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    Prior to the Prequel Era there was apparently no rule that stated how many apprentices a Jedi Master could teach at any given time. Master Arca Jeth could be said to have had at least four apprentices at one time just prior to his death, certainly prior to the events on Onderon he was training three apprentices. Vodo Siosk Baas was training three apprentices when we first met him.. This was back during the TotJ era. Luke's order seems to incorporate elements of both eras.
     
  12. Alderaanian_Jedi

    Alderaanian_Jedi Jedi Youngling star 2

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    The Jedi Orders can be split in 3 I think;

    The Ancient Jedi Order
    Basically the Jedi Order up until the Ruusan Reformation, several thousands of years BBY. Includes Jedi as Arca Jeth, Exar Kun and Vodo Siosk Baas.

    The Old Jedi Order
    The Jedi Order from the Ruusan Reformation to the Jedi Purge. Includes Jedi as Yoda, Mace Windu, Obi-Wan Kenobi, Echu-Shen Jon, Ki-Adi-Mundi.

    The New Jedi Order
    The Jedi Order built by Luke Skywalker after the fall of the Empire. By the time of the Yuuzhan Vong invasion, this order counts some 100 Jedi. Includes Jedi as Luke Skywalker, Anakin Solo, Jacen Solo, Jaina Solo, Mara Jade Skywalker, Corran Horn, Kyp Durron.

    The Old Jedi Order did not allow more then one apprentice at a time. The New Jedi Order did allow this up until the time of the Vong invasion, when they had returned to the one-on-one rule, with the exeption of Luke Skywalker, who trained both Jacen and Anakin Solo.
     
  13. Kast_Morben

    Kast_Morben Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Jedi_Horn_888: I don't make this sort of thing up, the information is straight out of the New Essential Guide to Characters, Callista's entry.
     
  14. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    The latest issue of Tales has a story (called "Mythology" I believe) where Qui-Gon tells a story to Obi-wan that is supposedly the origin of the one-master-one-apprentice rule the OJO adapted after the TOTJ era.
     
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