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Most interesting Force Cultures & Philosophies that are not Jedi/Sith?

(I'm also trying to focus on the ones who aren't Jedi or Sith with just another name, or just that local planet/species version of them except they don't have spaceships or lightsabers)


Some possibilities:

* Aing-Tii (the Force is a rainbow, teleporters and flowalkers, monastic pacifists except for when they come across any slavers and unleash their fury)
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Aing-Tii/Legends

* Fallanassi Adepts of the White Current (pacifists & master illusionists, similar to TLJ Luke)
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Fallanassi/Legends

* Kreia's philosophy (seeing the Force as an insidious tyrant and aiming to destroy)
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Kreia

* Imperial Knights of the Fel Dynasty's light-side Empire (obeying their Jedi Empire like PT Jedi obeyed the Senate)
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Imperial_Knight

* the Matukai (martial artists who channeled the Force in a way so their bodies became their weapons - didn't get tired, great speed and strength, immune to poison/illness, raise/lower their temperature, harden their skin, super-healing, etc.)
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Matukai/Legends

* the Mind-Walkers (abandoned their bodies like extreme gnostics/ascetics, only the Force/mind/spirit matters, often withered away of malnourishment)
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Mind_Walkers

* Chiss Sky-Walkers (young female space-navigators who age out of the Force)
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Sky-walker

* Knights of Zakuul (police/warriors of their government, like Jedi, but only saw the Force as a tool, no contemplative philosophy or understanding of light/dark, followed orders for good or ill)
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Knights_of_Zakuul

* Witches of Dathomir / Nightsisters (also the Legends' light-side version)
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Witches_of_Dathomir?so=search

 

The Aing-Tii are one of the most interesting orders of force users imo. Because they seem to prove that the Jedi (and the Sith?) are wrong to just look at the amount of midichlorians to determine how much a person is able to use the force.



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I always thought the Baran Do Sages were pretty interesting. Before the rise of modern technology the Kel Dor people relied on the Sages to predict storms and natural disasters. It's an interesting alternative to using the Force than the Jedi, but it's compatible with their overarching philosophy.

I also think its rather interesting just how meticulous they were as a result of their powers as seers. Many thought they were apathetic and reluctant to act, but their foresight simply meant they were waiting for the most opportune moment to act. They had the option to learn martial arts, but they were explicitly not a militant Order. So its interesting to see a sort of "middle ground" on the Lightside between the Jedi, who were martial pacifists, and a group like the Fallanassi, who were strict pacifists.

Regarding the other sects on this list. I know this isn't part of the prompt, but I always felt a fair amount of dislike for the Fallanassi. I reread the Black Fleet Crisis recently, and maybe it was just Akanah herself, but I found their views extremely dangerous. While I respect and admire a devotion to nonviolence, the willingness to equate anyone who uses violence as equally evil is offensively ignorant. No Akanah, a Jedi using violence as self defense, especially to save your life, against an enemy actively trying to kill you does not make said Jedi as bad as the Empire. And claiming that is the case, ironically, ends up legitimizing the Empire's excessive brutality since everyone is "equally bad" for resorting to any level of violence.

That level of condescending arrogance makes even the stuffiest of the orthodox Jedi look reasonable by comparison.

 

I didn't read the FOTJ novel with the Baran do, so that's an interesting elaboration, they seemed more just like monastic Jedi who could call lightning like TLJ Ghost Yoda from what I had read before.

Akanah and the Fallanassi seem very similar to the Duchess and her Mandalorians in TCW.

 

While, IMO, Shadowspawn himself was (deliberately) over the top villain in Shadows of Mindor, Sorcerers of Rhand as concept are legitimately scary.

 

Ever since I found out about the Aing-Tii, I've been fascinated by them. Very happy that they are canon.

 

I've always had a fondness for the Matukai, the Wardens of the Sky, the Zeison Sha, and the Blazing Chain, but I admit mostly for shallow reasons of finding their fighting style interesting and/or having a fun concept to play with, especially when running an rpg.

More recently I have found what hints we have gotten about the Lonto interesting, since they seem to be force druids or the like.

 

Witches of Dathomir, though specifically the light-siders or at least non-dark-siders more than the Nightsisters. They deserve to be broken in two, probably.

 

I almost put them down - but was it ever confirmed they were actually Force-users, as an organization/culture?

In the early days of speculation about Episode 7, in 2013-2014, I wondered if this was going to be an nice alternative to the Sith as a concept. I've gone back-and-forth on the idea in new stories since - just very hard to figure out how to depict them in a distinct way that does their philosophy justice while making a compelling story. Do they just try to rebuild the Exegol fleet and try to destroy every planet in the galaxy? But who would even sign up to work for an entity like that, since I doubt the Sorcerers are in the thousands. Etc.

Me too! I don't think all the old Legends facts are in the new canon yet, but just them being mentioned gives me hope. Them in the movies would be awesome.

I'd love for them to elaborate on their "the Force is a rainbow" philosophy - I think that one FOTJ novel tried, but really didn't give a fascinating answer or too much intriguing depth to their culture overall. It'll be tricky to do, but I hope someone will eventually be up to the task.

I really hope they re-introduce lightside Witches soon, especially after their focus in the Ahsoka live-action show.

The Matukai seem so underused, they're such an interesting concept.

Can you explain more about the other ones? I think the Blazing Chain are just Jedi who joined the Pius Dea and went dark-ish with their human-centric vias, but not sure if that's right or about the others.

 

Sorcerers of Rhand seem like Khornites off of WH40k. It seems like they'd cause, and fight in endless wars in order to achieve their goal of entropy. I don't think the Sith would work with them long-term. I could see an alliance of convenience that leads to either Rhandites or Sith betraying the other. That'd be an interesting way to use them in a setting.

There's also the Jal Shey from another KOTOR2 armor - Force scientists and scholars, basically, who want to research the Force as a field rather than study it spiritually.

 

My thoughts about them from 2015 (sithspit have it been so long):

Also, to do a #shameless_self-promotion did I do a fanon reworking of them in The Fanon Thread (it also have reworkings of the Zeison Sha, The Blazing Chain, Kilian Rangers).

 

I admit to not having played the game so I don't have a true picture here but what I have heard don't Kreia's arguments more or less boil down to: I was a jedi and it went bad for me, I then ecome a sith and it went bad for me; ergo the problem is not with me but that the Force is bad and I need to rid the galaxy of the Force for the greater good.

 

Similar but really believe the Force is evil and takes away free will.

 

I chose other because with the Mortis stuff its risen into a new category of interest. Who are they really and what kind of power do they have? and bring? At first i thought of the as an illusion but as a result of different shows and stuff the Mortis people represent something more.

 

I'm not sure they're a Force culture, as much as they're powerful individuals who Force culture have mythologized and built into their cultures. But we'll see.

 

The Aing-Tii for their esoteric force powers and the way they see the force. There really is no contest here. They are the most unique force using sect.

 

The Hutts i was always fascinated by their culture their different clans and the rivalry between the Hutts

 

I'd watch a whole live-action series about the Witches / Nightsisters. Give it strong creepy vibes and release it in October.

 

Personally I find Vianism an interesting if obscure force tradition. Also, the Mind Walkers at Sinkhole Station.

 

Do you feel like their powers need to be a little more defined, or explained? In the new canon it doesn't even seem certain like they're using the Force, it seems hard to know the limits. Or what their actual beliefs and goals are. They're just rather undefined still. I agree with their cool vibe though.

 

Honestly i feel like canon other force groups seem very lacking here, so i have some i like to mention
1.Ordu Aspectu
2.Frangawl cult
3. the zeffo
4.sith eternal
5. acolytes of the beyond
6.guardian of the whills
7.church of the force
8. path of the open hand
9. darth momins group
10.etc

 

I feel like they did a lot of interesting work with the Path of the Open Hand. One of the things that Canon has done very nicely has been to sort of expand on how non-Force users perceive the Force. You have a lot more "mundane" people having faith in the Force and interpreting it differently, from the Church of the Force, which are pro-Jedi, to the Path of the Open Hand, which are fanatically anti-Jedi. It makes the galaxy feel more grounded. It's not just the Force users trying to make heads or tales of things, but there are all these regular people trying to make some idea of it all as well.

 

First off I agree with your point about canon. Secondly, church of the force isn’t necessarily pro-Jedi but they would follow the jedis way and the path of the open hand are more anti-force users then like anti-Jedi. It’s not just regular people these are also for sensitives how we never joined the Jedi order.

 

I forgot the knights of ren lol

 

With Path of the Open Hand revealed to be Guardians of the Whills' offshoot, wonder if Knights will be connected with some other established Force cult too.