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MTV Movie Awards winners announced

Discussion in 'Archive: Attack of the Clones' started by Darth_Insidious, Jun 1, 2003.

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  1. Darth_Insidious

    Darth_Insidious Jedi Padawan star 4

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    AOTC picked up one award of the three it was nominated for, Best Fight for Yoda vs. Christopher Lee. It was also nominated for Best Virtual Performance, which it lost to The Two Towers, and Best Action Sequence, which it also lost to TTT.

    You can see the rest of the winners here.
     
  2. darthgetalife

    darthgetalife Jedi Youngling star 3

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    As posted in TFN Ep2 main page :

    You don't have to exist to get an MTV Movie Award.

    Saturday's irreverent ceremony honored the little green Jedi, Yoda, for best fight scene from "Star Wars: Episode II_Attack of the Clones," while the raspy creep Gollum from "The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers" won for "virtual performance" and for best on screen team for its performance alongside human co-stars Elijah Wood and Sean Astin.

    Yoda appeared on a giant screen to accept the honor and spoke in his signature circuitous manner.

    "Hmmm ... grateful am I to this award receive. To win, I did not expect," he said. "Promise myself cry I would not."

    He went on to thank supporters ranging from "Star Wars" creator George Lucas to Wookie Chewbacca, Vin Diesel, space monster Greedo and actor Steve Guttenberg.

    The computer-animated Yoda became angry when music played him off the stage.

    The full show will air June 5th.



    :D :D :D
     
  3. Jedi knight Pozzi

    Jedi knight Pozzi Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Would it be possible for the clip to be available on TF.N main page?
     
  4. ST-TPM-ASF-TNE

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  5. Billy_Dee_Binks

    Billy_Dee_Binks Force Ghost star 4

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    Mtv probably played Yo DA MAN! when he won.
     
  6. YodaJediMaster12

    YodaJediMaster12 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Yoda... IMO, one of the few characters left in the SW universe that both bashers and gushers, fans and non-fans still almost unanimously like. Truly wonderful, a green muppit with terrible sentence structure is. ;)
     
  7. YodaJeff

    YodaJeff Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    "Would it be possible for the clip to be available on TF.N main page?"

    I hope so. Since we know about it ahead of time, hopefully someone will record and digitize it when it airs. Also, the MTV movie awards probably will be repeated multiple times for the next month, so if they miss it the first time, they should be able to get it during one of the repeats.
     
  8. anakin_skywalker_sct

    anakin_skywalker_sct Jedi Master star 5

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    Well, congratulations to Yoda and Christopher Lee. Best. Fight. Ever. :p
     
  9. AdamBertocci

    AdamBertocci Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Awesome!
    And yes, I really want that MTV Awards clip! Was it actually the ILM-made computer Yoda and Frank Oz's voice accepting the award? (Yeah, I know it hasn't aired yet, but still... thought someone might have some info.)


    Rick McCallum loves you!
     
  10. Darth_Insidious

    Darth_Insidious Jedi Padawan star 4

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    It'd be cool if ILM took the time to make Yoda look as good as he did in the movie. I'm hoping Weta did the same for Gollum (him going nuts on Andy Serkis should be great).
     
  11. DamonD

    DamonD Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I'd like to see both the Yoda and Gollum clips. They both sound funny :)

    C'mon, Yoda thanks Steve Guttenberg! :p
     
  12. royalguard96

    royalguard96 Jedi Knight star 5

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    This is very surprising, and I think indicates a conspiracy against the conspiracy against Star Wars properties in the national media!!!







    8-}
     
  13. YodaJeff

    YodaJeff Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Looking at the competition, I'm not too surprised. But, MTV never ceases to amaze me, and I did think it was possible that Jackass would win, just because it was an MTV film.
     
  14. ST-TPM-ASF-TNE

    ST-TPM-ASF-TNE Moderator Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Well, the MTV movie awards are voted by regular people, so I don't think having Jackass be an MTV production would really make a difference to the people voting.
     
  15. StitchExperiment626

    StitchExperiment626 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    I hope we get to see that Yoda clip :)
    It sounds funny! [face_laugh]
     
  16. big_boss_nass

    big_boss_nass Tucson FF Founding Member star 4

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    There is something completly wrong, these awards were set up! Attack of the Clones only won one award, and Will Ferrell lost in the best comedic proformence! Someones gonna lose an eye...
     
  17. Darth_Insidious

    Darth_Insidious Jedi Padawan star 4

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    AOTC only deserved that one award. But yeah, Will Ferrell deserved Mike Myers' spot.
     
  18. Luukeskywalker

    Luukeskywalker Force Ghost star 5

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    Was Ferrel up for Old school? If so, yes he definetly deserved the award. He was hilarious in it. I hate Austin Powers anyways.

    I think Yoda deserved Best Virtual performance, simply because Rob Coleman and his team had to perfectly MATCH the mannuerisms and movements and realism of what we know from from actual puppet Yoda from the other films. And they pulled the unthinkable off brilliantly. Gollum on the other hand, while great, didn't have anything to live up to and to emulate. They had alot more freedom to make him how they wanted him, and no one would know the differnce if his mannuerisms were precisley one way or the other. And to me, that wasn't quite as brilliant animation wise, as Yoda was. That is the difference. Sorry Gollum, Yoda outdid you. And he deserved the award.
     
  19. Darth_Insidious

    Darth_Insidious Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Technically, Gollum was more impressive. He looked more real, and he interacted flawlessly with real actors and locations. Watch the scene where he pulls Frodo out of the water in the Dead Marshes, or his struggle with Frodo and Sam at the beginning of the film. Perfect.

    Acting-wise, he was also better, displaying a wider range of emotions than Yoda did.

    Rob and his guys at ILM did a terrific job with Yoda in AOTC, no question. Weta did a better job with Gollum. It doesn't take away from how well Yoda was done, it just means he wasn't the best. And there's no shame in being beaten by the best.
     
  20. JBFett

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    Technically, Gollum was more impressive. He looked more real, and he interacted flawlessly with real actors and locations. Watch the scene where he pulls Frodo out of the water in the Dead Marshes, or his struggle with Frodo and Sam at the beginning of the film. Perfect.

    Acting-wise, he was also better, displaying a wider range of emotions than Yoda did.

    Rob and his guys at ILM did a terrific job with Yoda in AOTC, no question. Weta did a better job with Gollum. It doesn't take away from how well Yoda was done, it just means he wasn't the best. And there's no shame in being beaten by the best.


    I thought Yoda looked much more 'real' than Gollum did by far. Gollum actually looks painted on. Granted, his performance was great, but he didn't look part of the frame. Yoda didn't need to act in such a way, so comparing performances isn't fair...Yoda was Yoda, Gollum was Gollum, but technically, Yoda was much more realistic in terms of photorealism than Gollum was, there isn't even a debate of that in my mind.

    Moreover, I don't like Weta's style at all in terms of digital effects. All of their visuals looks very, very CG. There are shots in both LOTR films where I just laughed out loud at the effects (especially a shot of the elf getting dragged across the frame in TTT on a shield...I can't even believe that was given a final OK) Their effects are sloppy and I still can't understand how they are given so much praise.
     
  21. Otis_Frampton

    Otis_Frampton LFL Artist, Moderator Emeritus star 4 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Technically, Gollum was more impressive.

    Technically, that's your opinion.

    I'm more impressed that ILM was able to bring Yoda into the digital age, make him recognizable as the same character from ESB and ROTJ and have him seem more advanced and lifelike at the same time. And all of this was done without having any actor's performance to reference.

    Kudos, ILM. It may only be MTV, but you still deserve it.

    But Technically, that's just my opinion. ;)

    -Otis
     
  22. Darth_Insidious

    Darth_Insidious Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Is it an opinion that making a CG character physically interact with real people and real environments is more technically difficult than making a CG character physically interact with other CG characters and CG environments? No, not really.
     
  23. C3POED_OUT

    C3POED_OUT Jedi Youngling star 3

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    ILM's greatest creation thus far is the digital Yoda. It's so good it makes the puppet look like an artifact, both technically and performance-wise.

     
  24. Otis_Frampton

    Otis_Frampton LFL Artist, Moderator Emeritus star 4 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Is it an opinion that making a CG character physically interact with real people and real environments is more technically difficult than making a CG character physically interact with other CG characters and CG environments? No, not really.

    Yes, it really is.

    Besides, Episode II wasn't entirely digital. So even if what you're saying was a fact (it isn't), it applies to both films.

    -Otis
     
  25. JBFett

    JBFett Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Dude, There is CG-Human interaction all over Episode 2 that isn't only in the form of Yoda.

    If you need further proof that ILM is the more advanced, go check out HULK...They have pushed CG-real world interaction to its limits. I saw a sneak peak 2 days ago and it's just unexplainable what they did.
     
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