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Discussion in 'Archive: Your Jedi Council Community' started by Suzuki_Akira, Nov 17, 2004.

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  1. Suzuki_Akira

    Suzuki_Akira Jedi Master star 7

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    I wanted to try something new regarding all the music we listen to. I'd like to try and get some meaning from our favorite songs. My only request is that the posts be serious analysis of the songs and that each genre of music is respected, even if you don't like that one. A new song to analyze will be posted every day, and the next one will be from the rock genre. The first song is "Real ******z(slang term for Negroes) Don't Die" by old school group NWA. (For the sake of the TOS, the word ***** in this song will be replaced by Negro)

    Real ******z Don't Die

    I'm a ************ negro wit an attitude(4x)

    (Dr Dre)

    I got a case of spitting in a ********** face
    So me and my ace we got a taste
    Of a ********** billy club he took his gun and
    Put it to my head and said Negro start running
    So tell me what's the next episode
    Is he crazy, does he want to chase me and waste me
    I thought run ***** run but I caught myself
    Because my secondary thought was death
    i get hit hard real but still ********** said
    I want another black *********** dead
    Negroes ain't good for **** for me
    'Cause this is a race fo second class
    So get your ass up against the wall *****
    And then he tried
    They jumped me but the punk became a victim of a walkby
    ****** wit Dre, you can't afford to be an *******
    It's just another way to let you know
    Negroes send them, negroes send them, negroes send them
    Punk can't **** wit me
    Real ********** G (Got that)
    Straight from the streets of the CPT
    Telling you why real niggaz don't die

    (Chorus)
    I just want to celebrate (2X)

    (MC Ren)

    Real negroes don't die 'cause they eventually multiply
    The negroes are wit it but taking out on I
    Because the times are so wrong, got to stay so strong
    Negroes got to keep going on and on
    And don't let no pail face, they throw your ass in a cell race
    Have you resident suck a pie in a jail space
    That's what they want to do 'cause the system is ****** around
    I try to let you know what the record it's underground
    They don't give a **** about a negro
    They would rather pull the trigger
    And have you running from barrels smiling saying geez
    So negro get smart and rebel back
    I'm not wit that black just so I'm not gonna nail that
    All I see is negroes getting harrass
    We can't do nothing about it but get a foot in they ass
    Yo, but a very negroes grabbed a nine
    And started shooting **********, it would put them in line
    And that's how it's suppose to be
    When the ***** ass negroes try to fuk wit me
    Yo because the shoes let the dry
    To kill a negro cause negro a ********** real negro don't die

    Chorus

    I'm a ************* negro wit an attitude

    (Eazy-E)

    Oh let the good die young, so that make me young and bad
    Putting ass kickings on the negroes that never had
    So I guess that makes me tough ****
    Straight up gangsta, wrong Negro to **** wit
    So how can a Negro die when he's causing the bloodshed
    By shooting ************ in the head
    Trying to make a Negro extinct because they fear me
    But never want to hear me
    So I'm a let 'em know how a negroes's living
    Checking for *********** cause nobody ain't giving a damn thing
    To a negro, a real negro
    So I'm living by the ************ trigger
    Cause a negro ain't afraid of being locked up
    I'm out of luck, so why should I give a ****
    But they still want to try
    To kill a negro like me but ********** real Negroes don't die


    Discussion anyone?
     
  2. IkritMan

    IkritMan Jedi Knight star 5

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    I can't hear the music.
     
  3. Emperor_Billy_Bob

    Emperor_Billy_Bob Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    It is obviously a biased analysis of the historical forces that allowed young couples to have a greater choice in their marriage in the early 19th century, as displayed in such novels as Jane Austen's Pride and Prejudice
     
  4. Darth_OlsenTwins

    Darth_OlsenTwins Jedi Master star 5

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    Yes, substituting "Negroe" for a word is totally acceptable.

    Even i wouldn't be as daft as to post that song.

    Also, the point of the song was to sound cool to white suburban teens and to make money.
     
  5. Suzuki_Akira

    Suzuki_Akira Jedi Master star 7

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    Umm...alright. I think the chorus is indicitive of the feeling of giving up in the community in question, the feeling of imminent death leading to a breakdown of convictions. Also commented on is the fact that blacks are expected to bear injustices and not be bitter about it, with:

    They would rather pull the trigger
    And have you running from barrels smiling saying geez
    So negro get smart and rebel back


    That's just my thoughts.
     
  6. IkritMan

    IkritMan Jedi Knight star 5

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    You said white people. You must be a racist!
     
  7. Fanboy_Solo

    Fanboy_Solo Jedi Youngling star 4

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    Those black people sure like to shoot each other
     
  8. Suzuki_Akira

    Suzuki_Akira Jedi Master star 7

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    When did I say 'white people'?
     
  9. Emperor_Billy_Bob

    Emperor_Billy_Bob Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    I do not like the term "White", I prefer Anglo-Saxon American thank you. [face_plain]
     
  10. The1Neo

    The1Neo Jedi Master star 6

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    "Yeah i want something new,but what am i suppose to do i love you. Yeah i love you. It's true."

    It's from the song "Hummer" by The Smashing Pumpkins. I've always thought many people have this feeling or conflict. I always did. Billy Corgan has endless verses that delve deep into human emotions. Beautiful and tragic.
     
  11. IkritMan

    IkritMan Jedi Knight star 5

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    Throw in "protestant" and I won't team up with EBB to sue.
     
  12. FamousAmos

    FamousAmos VIP star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Folks, if you don't like this thread or the song that's up right now then don't post.

    They don't give a **** about a negro
    They would rather pull the trigger
    And have you running from barrels smiling saying geez
    So negro get smart and rebel back


    I think he's saying that black people should respond to violence/racism by getting smart and beating the system from the inside, here. Very cool to have a positive message considering how violent some of the lyrics are.

    I'm a ************* negro wit an attitude

    I think this line is sarcasm, personally. I think he's attacking the idea that his wanting to improve himself and his people and not wanting to have to deal with racism is an undesirable 'attitude'. :)
     
  13. Laced

    Laced Jedi Youngling star 3

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    This is a great idea for a thread, Suzuki! I've listened to this song hundreds of times, but I have never sat and read the lyrics alone without the music. This is a very in your face proclaimation of repression of African-Americans and their culture. It is very honest, forcing you to identify with the reality that is led by millions of urban dwellers in the USA. NWA is coming out and saying "This is who we are, we're PROUD, and don't give a ****!"

    But what do I know, I'm as white as you can get. :)
     
  14. Emperor_Billy_Bob

    Emperor_Billy_Bob Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    And us white simpletons couldn't understand their complex and meaningful music. :rolleyes:
     
  15. Suzuki_Akira

    Suzuki_Akira Jedi Master star 7

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    Don't be afraid to comment because you're white. The reason for songs like this is to let non-blacks hear about what is going on, and to send that message along. Blacks already know.
     
  16. Emperor_Billy_Bob

    Emperor_Billy_Bob Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    My personal favorite Gangsta Rap song is as follows:

    Red Rum by Project Pat

    Red Rum
    Red Rum
    Red Rum
    Red Rum

    [Project Pat]
    A 44 bullet shell took my ***** life
    Triggas pulled by some young ****** on that white
    He used to ***** with them boys on the weed tip
    They found my ***** dead face down in a ditch
    I saw the ***** on the news just the other day
    I ain't for singing no blues, I'ma make 'em pay
    I know them *****es they be hangin' at the Shake Junt
    I catch 'em slippin comin' out and commence to pump
    Been led leave 'em dead on the ****** scene
    Ballin out and the steam'll make the getaway clean
    I made a block then I switched to the other ride
    I'm still in shock cuz I just did a homicide
    I executed me some punks that deserved it
    They had a warrant for they death so I served it
    I gave them tricks a little dose of they medicine
    I bet them **** man'll never try that ***** again

    [Chorus:]

    (Red Rum) Most of yall
    Wanna see some blood spillin anyway
    (Red Rum) Bodies fall
    ****** dyin' young on this everyday
    (Red Rum) ***** race
    When it been yo' time for you to clock out
    (Red Rum) Had a face
    But you should not had your ******* guard down
    [repeat]

    [Project Pat]
    In the street ***** die
    They got fired cuz they tried
    Test the game of the man
    Who's committing homocides
    Suicide
    Would be better for you fools
    But I'll be damned if I don't
    Help you out
    Like the ??
    I can and I'm willing
    To proceed with a killing
    Stick a gauge up ya anus
    Do a crime make it haneous
    Amos anger to my chamber
    Let a slug through that toe
    Cuz I'm on a body stalk
    Puttin suckers in the chalk
    Walk the walk
    Get ya game
    Guns click it's whatever *****
    I ain't brought *****
    So you know whatever's clever *****
    Trigga happy nappy headed
    ?? peels off
    Mother****** caps when I roll with the shotgun
    Project pop one
    Of you ***** tryin to steal my ****
    ***** with me and mine
    And I swear it's a murder *****
    Yeah I see you ***** mean muggin' on them porches
    Unload that thang watch 'em scatter like roaches

    [Chorus]


    Amos edit: Star out the whole word please :)
     
  17. YodaKenobi

    YodaKenobi Former TFN Books Staff star 6 VIP

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    Don't be afraid to comment because you're white. The reason for songs like this is to let non-blacks hear about what is going on, and to send that message along. Blacks already know.

    [face_plain]

    Yes, thank god for NWA, keeping the non-black people informed. Screw the news, I've got rap music!!! [face_dancing]
     
  18. Suzuki_Akira

    Suzuki_Akira Jedi Master star 7

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    You're misinterpreting the statement, I suspect intentionally. The point is that people don't know what's going on in regards to the issue in question. If you think things like this are out in the open because of the coverage of the Timothy Thomas riots on CNN, then all you're doing is arguing that something is naive based on your own naivete.
     
  19. Suzuki_Akira

    Suzuki_Akira Jedi Master star 7

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    Okay. Today's song is Symphony of Destruction by Megadeth. I'll have the lyrics up soon.
     
  20. Bant428

    Bant428 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    no more hip-hop! this, this is art!

    Elektronik Supersonik by Zlad!

    Hey baby wake up from your a sleep
    We have arrived onto the future
    And the whole world is become....

    Elektronik, Supersonik,
    Supersonik, Elektronik,

    Hey baby ride with me away,
    We doesn't have much time,
    My blue jeans is tight,
    So onto my love rocket, climb,
    Inside tank of fuel is not fuel, but love,
    Above us, there is nothing above,
    but the stars, above

    All systems gone!
    Prepare for downcount!

    5....4....3....1! Off blast!


    Fly away, my space rocket,
    You no need put money in my pocket
    The door is closed I just lock it,
    (Ha) I put my (Ha) port plug in your socket (Ha Ha Ha)

    The sonic sky is bright like fire
    You and me gets higher and higher
    Cut communication wire
    Only thing can stop us is flat tire

    Ha, Ha, Ha Ha Ha Ha

    Hey love crusaider
    I want to be your space invader
    For you I will decend the deepest moon crater
    I is more stronger than Darth Vapour
    Obey me I is your new dictator
    For you is Venus, I am Mars
    With you I is more richer than all the tzars
    Make a wishes on a shooting stars
    Then for you I will play on my cosmic guitars!

    Ladies and Gentlemen
    Fasten your beltseats
    We has commenced our decent
    I trust you enjoy this flight
    As much as you enjoy this accent

    Now back on Earth its time for downsplash
    Into sea of eternal glory my spaceship crash
    People have arrived for to cheer me from near and far
    And as I float I open door and shout
    "I am worlds biggest, washed-up superstar!"

    (Supersonik, Elektronik)

    As for sure as the sun rises in the west
    Of all the seas and all the boats I am the bestest
    come, let me put ring of Jupiter on your finger
    Then like a smell around you I will forever linger
    Ok, is time for end, no more will I sang
    Let me take you back in time,
    I want for you to experience big bang

    Long live space race
    Long live, Molvania
     
  21. Suzuki_Akira

    Suzuki_Akira Jedi Master star 7

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    The lyrics are below. This song is full of applicable metaphors.

    [Mustaine]

    You take a mortal man,
    And put him in control
    Watch him become a god
    Watch peoples heads a'roll
    A'roll...

    [chorus:]
    Just like the Pied Piper
    Led rats through the streets
    We dance like marionettes
    Swaying to the Symphony ...
    Of Destruction

    Acting like a robot
    Its metal brain corrodes
    You try to take its pulse
    Before the head explodes
    Explodes...

    [Chorus]
    [Solo - Marty]

    The earth starts to rumble
    World powers fall
    A'warring for the heavens
    A peaceful man stands tall
    Tall...

    [Chorus]
     
  22. Armenian_Jedi

    Armenian_Jedi Force Ghost star 7

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    no!

    back to hip hop!
     
  23. Suzuki_Akira

    Suzuki_Akira Jedi Master star 7

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    Fine.

    [Intro: George Bush]
    'There's an old saying in Tennesse, I know it's in Texas, it's probably in Tennesse
    that says fool me once... shame on... shame on you.
    If you fool me you can't be fooled again.'

    [SOS]
    I live in a nation that relies on business and crime
    And the leaders are politician guys livin' a lie
    Who bull**** like everyone else for a nickel and dime
    America ... just as corrupt as it is online
    Using freedom and entertainment just to keep us sedated
    But remember what the declaration of independence stated?
    All men are equal and that's the way they're created?
    But when that was written, black and white people were segregated
    And this country still breeds racism, just not as blatant
    To call us the land of the free is overstatement
    Cause ain't NOBODY free. We all being watched quietly
    National security's an invasion of privacy
    Drug Trafficking, conspiracy, murder and piracy
    What America can't have they take silently
    Sometimes violently, open up your eyes and see
    Even dirty money is supporting our economy
    It's all backwards like negative split photography
    But I guess that's the way it's got to be
    United we stand on this land and we do all crimes
    Facin' a Dyin' Nation ?

    [Chorus]
    'Facin' a dyin' nation. Listen to the retold lies' (x2)

    [Deacon the Villain]
    I live in a nation where it ain't what's physical that fights us
    Now it's silent strikes from political insiders
    A black market government where being criminal is righteous
    Ran by bloodlines that were dirty before Isis
    The crisis has even spread to spiritual infestations
    Confessionals filled with sexual molestations
    Professionals so set on capitalization
    They don't notice their children freebasin' in their million

    Dollar basements
    Babies having babies in the hood I grew up in
    Hands are too small for the guns that they be bustin'
    Schools underfunded, graduates retain nothing
    On Capitol Hll it's barely a topic of discussion
    Kids like, why should I think about college
    When this hood situation is holding me hostage
    And even if I fought and bought the knowledge
    I'd prolly get shot 41 times by a cop over my wallet
    Shiiiiit.. So wherever you are
    Don't inhale the second hand smoke from its victory cigar
    Motivate yourself don't just stand on the side
    Facing a dying nation and listening to the new told lies

    [Chorus]

    [Kno]
    Somebody dial 9-1-1
    It's mass confusion, mass contusions
    At last we losin' Uncle Sam to a mass of tumors
    And that's the rumor at least, it's soon to be seen
    If its true that the beast is soon to decease
    Catchin' blood clots in the crude oil
    That runs through his veins and up thru his brain
    Its tough to maintain
    If he was low income he'd already been gone
    Insurance paperwork gettin handled by Enron
    And scandalous friends call to speak
    Even Bill O'Reilly's wrapped in a hospital bedsheet
    With a pointed hat, where the ointment at?
    Wax the taxpayers backside for a tax hike
    Woulda had a Catholic priest at his bedside
    But they were too busy giving these Boy Scouts a leg ride
    Temperature stay high but no pain
    Cus the presidents Hooked on Phonics and cocaine
    Product of old age and Alzheimers disease
    Medical bills raised from all types of fees
    Looks to the American people to show love
    But his Social Security ran out - pull the plug

    (flatline)
     
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