PT "My powers have doubled since the last time we met, Count"

Does this line seem like it should be removed in the 3D release of ROTS? They seem to have met plenty of times in TCW and it makes it seem like they only met in AOTC when Anakin said this line.

 

I don't think so, based solely on Dooku's response to it for one.

In terms of them meeting in between AOTC and ROTS, that wouldn't neccessarily mean the line should be removed just because of that. The line is vague so it could refer to a number of things. If he had said "My powers have more than doubled since we last met on Geonosis." then it might warrant changing or removal, but as it is, it doesn't really need to be altered.

 

Or not. Their encounters during TCW don't contradict anything. Who knows what happened between their last encounter.

 

Doubt it's a problem. It's just Anakin saying, "I'm bigger, better and stronger than you."

 

Nah that quote as said before is quite vague so its fine. The line that gets me is when Grievous explains to Obi-Wan that he's been taught how to wield lightsabers... and because of TCW now we know Obi-Wan already knew this. But I wouldn't want the line removed.

 

hes' been trained by COUNT DOOKU. And yes, I can see your point by the time TCW ends, Anakin might as well say "My powers have doubled since we last met 2 days ago, Count" lol

 

Yes I know. Grievous explaining it to Obi-wan now after TCW series just sounds weird. That's all I was saying.

 

I just chalk those lines to be meant for people who haven't seen the Clone Wars series, and would be wondering where the fleep Grevious learnt to fight with lightsabers.

 

Everybody who saw ROTS in 2005 through 2008 understood Grievous perfectly. Most people don't need to be told about common sense things that can be inferred.

If the line was taken out as a concession to the EU, that'd open up a whole can of worms:

-New shot of Darth Maul escaping from Theed in TPM
-Revised dialogue about the clones on Kamino
-Jango no longer recruited by Dooku (TCW has zero references to Dooku playing both sides)
-Dooku no longer says, "Good news: the war has begun" to Sidious. (In TCW, Dooku really IS an idealist rather than a conniving Sith staging phony wars.)
-Anakin and Obi-Wan no longer partners in ROTS as they both have new padawans (Obi-Wan was anticipating a new one in TCW movie)

A million other things. Forcing the movies to conform to the EU is insane. Let them be separate and fans can concoct whatever retcons they want among themselves, but don't contaminate the great movies to make them conform to a TV show.

 

I never really understood why Dooku would even have to tell Sidious the war started. Sidious already knows since he is in charge of both sides. However, he obviously still needed to hand the plans over to Sidious but I don't see a need to tell him what he obviously already knows.

 

I don't believe that at that point he knew what happened on Geonosis.

 

I think it was to reinforce that Doooku and Sidious were partners and that the whole war was a scam.

Remember Dooku's dialogue to Obi-Wan where he'd apparently tried to HELP the Jedi by warning them of the Sith. Ki-adi even called Dooku an "idealist" who merely wanted freedom from the Republic. That's not a bad guy at all, necessarily: just Robert E. Lee, basically.

But then the scene with Sidious at the end reveals both that he's the "Tyrannus" who started the clones and that Dooku's earlier show of counsel to Obi-Wan was indeed just a scam (presumably the Rule of Two at play). So the movie kept it a mystery the whole time, but then it's clear that Dooku's goal was still the same as Sidious's: a contrived war to be carried on as long as necessary to convert the Republic from a republic into an Empire, and murder all the Jedi.

The TCW retconned all of this, naturally. But that's the intent of the movies.

 

You mean he was trained by "COUUUUUNT DOOOOOOOOO-KOOOOOOOO!"

 

Exactly. This line seems ridiculous based on how often thy fight ech other in TCW. If they only fought in AotC and RotS, Anakin might've thought his powers increased dramatically. No way he thinks his powers incresed that much between what will be his last encounter with CD in TCW and their encounter in RotS.

Just one more way in which TCW contradicts the movies.

 

Not true. I don't see how someone could come to this conclusion from watching TCW.

That didn't happen.

 

^ Agreed. Those statements probably require some explanation or support.

 

No way you know what happens until the end of the series to assume that.

 

True. For all we know, Anakin and Dooku may have already met for the last time in TCW.

 

I can assume that now. As of their latest encounter in TCW, Anakin is a full Jedi Knight and is a lot closer in power/ability to his RotS self than his Padawan AotC self.

 

Yeah Anakin is already at least a match for Dooku in CW, so I don't see why he'd be confident taking on both Obi Wan and Anakin in ROTS.

 

He's a Sith Lord. Overconfidence is his weakness.

 

Then why did have 4 magnaguards to help him take down Anakin

 

Because at his heart, he's a coward?

 

I don't see why people think the Sith have to fight fair. They just want to win at all costs.

 

Yeah, this pretty much. Or why people think the Sith have any redeeming qualities-outside of Vader, but he's special. Dooku is a cowardly tyrant with a massive ego.