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"Never been done in the history of the Jedi" apparently not true...

Discussion in 'Prequel Trilogy' started by morpher-2005, Dec 27, 2005.

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  1. morpher-2005

    morpher-2005 Jedi Master star 4

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    In ROTS, after being put on the council but not made a master, Anakin states "It's never been done in the history of the Jedi; put me on the council and not make me a Master" (or something similar). However, whilst reading my Star Wars visual guide book that I got for Christmas, I saw a list of the Jedi council just before TPM. Under Ki-Adi-Mundi, it says "Not yet a Jedi Master, Ki-Adi-Mundi is the only Knight on the council".
    So is Anakin incorrect? Is it a mistake in my book?
    Let discussion commence!
     
  2. jedi_drifter

    jedi_drifter Jedi Youngling star 1

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    That book is apocrypha. It is pseudepigrapha not inspired by the force and is useful only for purposes of morality. It is not to be taken as canon and is wrought with anachronism and inconsistency.

    But seriously, good question.
     
  3. Darth_Manic

    Darth_Manic Jedi Youngling star 1

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    It beats me.
     
  4. Aumgn

    Aumgn Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Well, they have to change these little backstories every now and then to accomodate the movies. Owen isn't Obi-wan's brother either.
     
  5. Sarg_Kulo

    Sarg_Kulo Jedi Master star 4

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    The movie overrides the book so Mundi was a Master in TPM.
     
  6. Tyson

    Tyson Jedi Youngling star 3

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    This never crossed my mind before. And to think of all the people I argued with saying that K-Adi-Mundi's race is not strong in the force and he was only a jedi knight and would never be able to reach the rank of master. [face_worried]
     
  7. DarthMyBoy

    DarthMyBoy Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I've always boiled it down to that Anakin was so mad at what happened he didn't stop to think about the history of the order
     
  8. sith_rising

    sith_rising Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Continuity error.
     
  9. -Phoenix-

    -Phoenix- Jedi Master star 5

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    I got that book for Christmas too! Good book.
     
  10. Strilo

    Strilo Manager Emeritus star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    How? Where in the films does it ever say Ki-Adi-Mundi's rank?
     
  11. ThrawnRocks

    ThrawnRocks Jedi Master star 6

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    I think it was retcond that at the time of TPM Ki-Adi was sitting in the place of a Council Member that had been killed, more of a sub. He was then promoted to Master and officially put on the council.

    But yeah. When I first saw ROTS that fact jumped into my head right away.
     
  12. fettmaster39

    fettmaster39 Jedi Master star 3

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    Its just another case of EU condradicting the movies.
    Pay it no mind.

    P.S. I got the book for Christmas too!
    I love it!
     
  13. newwillorder

    newwillorder Jedi Youngling star 2

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    As long as it's not stated in the movies it's fine by me.
     
  14. emporergerner

    emporergerner Jedi Padawan star 4

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    You know I thought the same thing. When Anakin said it's never been done in the history of the Jedi. I thought was'nt Ki-Adi-Mundi a master in TPM. But hey man whatever works for the movies.




    Emporer Gerner Dark Lord of the Sith
     
  15. morpher-2005

    morpher-2005 Jedi Master star 4

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    I don't think the book was wrong...it's the best star wars book I've ever had. I think I'd have to agree that Anakin was so mad he didn't stop to think
     
  16. Strilo

    Strilo Manager Emeritus star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    That's certainly another way to look at it...
     
  17. WitchKing66

    WitchKing66 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    ^^^

    hahahahaha .... this is sounds like a type of exucse lucas gave for the un-continituity of having a 20 years old death star from ROTS to ANH (what di he say: ohh they union problem and supplies were scare)

    and the day the DS became operational was its last day; damn so much geonosians worked on it

    my exucse is that the geonosians technology used was complicated to adpat and to reconfigure the power coupling by rerouting power to the main deflector dish .. all this took 20 years
     
  18. newwillorder

    newwillorder Jedi Youngling star 2

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    I don't think Lucas is being serious when he says stuff like that.
     
  19. kingthlayer

    kingthlayer Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    What?
     
  20. Darthana

    Darthana Jedi Padawan star 4

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    How so? Ki-Adi is a Jedi Master... :confused:
     
  21. jedipadawanjoe14

    jedipadawanjoe14 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    now he is....but this is an arguemtn about if he was or not during TPM
     
  22. MOC Vober Dand

    MOC Vober Dand Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I got that book for Christmas too, it's a great book.

    When I read that part about Ki Adi I thought either:

    1. Continuity error

    2. Another example of Anakin thinking he knows everything but is actually an ignorant big mouth.

    For some reason I always thought Ki Adi was a fairly senior council member, not sure why that is. He seems to have a bit to say compared to some of the others and isn't he supposed to be really smart - with that big head and all?
     
  23. Darth-Stryphe

    Darth-Stryphe Former Mod and City Rep star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    How? Where in the films does it ever say Ki-Adi-Mundi's rank?

    With EU, not with the movie. In EU back in 1999, they did come up with some stories about Ki-Adi and at that time he was a knight who never made master yet was appointed to the council. As far as I know, this idea came from LucasArts and not from Lucas, so Lucas probably disgarded it for the sake of ROTS.
     
  24. morpher-2005

    morpher-2005 Jedi Master star 4

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    Me too. I assumed it because he sits next to yoda, as does Windu
     
  25. DS615

    DS615 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Go ahead and find me one iota of proof for that statement. Nah, don't bother. You can't.

    And yes, Anakin was wrong. (gasp, shock, horror!) Could a Jedi ever be wrong?
    All the time actually.



     
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